Another PI head question

Joyrider564 · 09-20-2006, 12:21 PM

Hey, I am going to be helping my friend with a PI head swap on his 96 GT. We called the local U-pull it and they have some 5.4 engines in stock there, and was wondering which heads I should be looking for, because I know there is a difference between the Romeo and Windsor blocks, but I am unsure of what that means in terms of the bolting on the cylinder head.

He was also looking at a VT Stage 2 N/A cam, but I saw in another post someone recommending the Stage 1 cam... what would be the reason for this?

And he is looking at doing gears and longtubes at the same time as the head swap.

Thanks for your input!

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-20-2006, 12:36 PM

if you pull 5.4 heads, they will be Windsor heads and will require different cam covers and some 10mm bolts and studs to attach the front chain cover.
now you could use the truck cam covers but then the oil fill will be on the other side

Saleen S330 · 09-20-2006, 03:19 PM

If you do get the 5.4 heads, try to get the valve covers if they have them, or find some 13 bolt style(windsor) The oil cap being on the passenger side won't hurt or be in the way of anything either.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-21-2006, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleen S330

The oil cap being on the passenger side won't hurt or be in the way of anything either.

wtf??!!? it won't?? what if you have a Bullitt intake, SVO intake or the Reichard Racing intake? the thrttlbdy enters on the rightside, or didn't you know that either

check wth me before you buy the parts from whomever and I'll make sure your steered in the right direction

bassman97 · 09-21-2006, 05:05 AM

He didn't mention any kind of special intake...Plus, it really isn't a big deal since the only major thing that would get in the way is the intake inlet tube which you can always move out the way during an oil change or use a long narrow funnel.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-21-2006, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassman97

He didn't mention any kind of special intake...Plus, it really isn't a big deal since the only major thing that would get in the way is the intake inlet tube which you can always move out the way during an oil change or use a long narrow funnel.

he didn't say what intake they were going to use, so don't assume it's a stocker.
oh and some people don't change there own oil, so it is a big deal.
now if you want to split hairs, thats fine but wth all the mis-information in this thread(and the other one @ PI heads) it will only lead others into trouble and problems, problems that I get asked via the net or over the fone and if I can dis-spell a few myths here, well then that's 1 less I'll have to answer in one of my forums or on the fone.

*03gtmustang* · 09-21-2006, 07:49 AM

If he goes with a Bullitt intake and a drivers side oil fill then he will have to make his own inlet tube to fit around the oil fill, or modify the fill somehow. Hell be a lot better off getting a passenger side oil fill in that case. Plus, whos to say he wont go that route later on down the road.

Saleen S330 · 09-21-2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb

wtf??!!? it won't?? what if you have a Bullitt intake, SVO intake or the Reichard Racing intake? the thrttlbdy enters on the rightside, or didn't you know that either

check wth me before you buy the parts from whomever and I'll make sure your steered in the right direction

You are an IDIOT Do you work at Ford, i hope not. Wait, my TB enters on the right side, no problems, do i need to show you a pic AGAIN to show YOU are WRONG!

Saleen S330 · 09-21-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb

he didn't say what intake they were going to use, so don't assume it's a stocker.
oh and some people don't change there own oil, so it is a big deal.
now if you want to split hairs, thats fine but wth all the mis-information in this thread(and the other one @ PI heads) it will only lead others into trouble and problems, problems that I get asked via the net or over the fone and if I can dis-spell a few myths here, well then that's 1 less I'll have to answer in one of my forums or on the fone.

you just like to prove people wrong, when your pretty much wrong.

And lead people to trouble or problems...like i said, i've done it, no cutting corners, no problems or anything. talk the crap...your good at that atleast.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-21-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleen S330

You are an IDIOT Do you work at Ford, i hope not. Wait, my TB enters on the right side, no problems, do i need to show you a pic AGAIN to show YOU are WRONG!

yes I do & FU moron

Saleen S330 · 09-21-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb

yes I do & FU moron

There you go....great info, now i know to never listen to your info, since most FORD workers have to look up what a gasket is or does when you ask about something, oh and give you that deer in the headlight look when you ask simple questions..thanks randy!!

FU 2

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-21-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saleen S330

There you go....great info, now i know to never listen to your info, since most FORD workers have to look up what a gasket is or does when you ask about something, oh and give you that deer in the headlight look when you ask simple questions..thanks randy!!

FU 2

no problem dude, your done

*03gtmustang* · 09-21-2006, 11:41 AM

Wow. Theres a reason why we want Randy here. You on the other hand, we could care less about. You're way out of line here and arguing with the wrong person.

*4.6 Love* · 09-21-2006, 01:00 PM

We will not tolerate open insults to one of our own!

*madmatt* · 09-21-2006, 03:48 PM

WTF crawled up his ass. Randy is one of the most intellegent people Ive ever talked to, and a great guy.

Shambles · 09-22-2006, 07:32 AM

Well then...looks like someone woke up with a sandy vagina.

Randy drives a mustang of his own, he isnt just some mindless parts drone that works over at some Ford dealership. If there is a question on these cars, he definately knows the answer. And if he doesnt, I know that one of his shop crew / other crew knows it.

I've been to his dealership personally and met some of the guys there. They know their stuff.

Now, as for you Saleen 330, you are WAY out of line on that. Its one thing to disagree, but its quite another to bash someone, and not just anyone, but a MAJOR member of these forums, and tell them to go and **** themselves.

That I'm not going to tollerate, whether they are a professional collegue, a friend, or just some random member.

I'm going to leave this at the current 30-Day ban. If you decide to come back after that, then good for you. I do give second chances to everyone, but take advantage of it, and I will blow you right out of the water.

Dont push your luck.

09-20-2006, 12:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Joyrider564 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 46	Another PI head question Hey, I am going to be helping my friend with a PI head swap on his 96 GT. We called the local U-pull it and they have some 5.4 engines in stock there, and was wondering which heads I should be looking for, because I know there is a difference between the Romeo and Windsor blocks, but I am unsure of what that means in terms of the bolting on the cylinder head. He was also looking at a VT Stage 2 N/A cam, but I saw in another post someone recommending the Stage 1 cam... what would be the reason for this? And he is looking at doing gears and longtubes at the same time as the head swap. Thanks for your input!

09-20-2006, 12:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,753	if you pull 5.4 heads, they will be Windsor heads and will require different cam covers and some 10mm bolts and studs to attach the front chain cover. now you could use the truck cam covers but then the oil fill will be on the other side __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

09-21-2006, 07:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,245	If he goes with a Bullitt intake and a drivers side oil fill then he will have to make his own inlet tube to fit around the oil fill, or modify the fill somehow. Hell be a lot better off getting a passenger side oil fill in that case. Plus, whos to say he wont go that route later on down the road. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

09-21-2006, 11:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,245	Wow. Theres a reason why we want Randy here. You on the other hand, we could care less about. You're way out of line here and arguing with the wrong person. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

09-21-2006, 01:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,154	We will not tolerate open insults to one of our own! __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

09-20-2006, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	If you do get the 5.4 heads, try to get the valve covers if they have them, or find some 13 bolt style(windsor) The oil cap being on the passenger side won't hurt or be in the way of anything either.

09-21-2006, 05:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
bassman97 blank Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,497	He didn't mention any kind of special intake...Plus, it really isn't a big deal since the only major thing that would get in the way is the intake inlet tube which you can always move out the way during an oil change or use a long narrow funnel.

09-21-2006, 03:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	WTF crawled up his ass. Randy is one of the most intellegent people Ive ever talked to, and a great guy. __________________ RPMPlanets

09-22-2006, 07:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Well then...looks like someone woke up with a sandy vagina. Randy drives a mustang of his own, he isnt just some mindless parts drone that works over at some Ford dealership. If there is a question on these cars, he definately knows the answer. And if he doesnt, I know that one of his shop crew / other crew knows it. I've been to his dealership personally and met some of the guys there. They know their stuff. Now, as for you Saleen 330, you are WAY out of line on that. Its one thing to disagree, but its quite another to bash someone, and not just anyone, but a MAJOR member of these forums, and tell them to go and **** themselves. That I'm not going to tollerate, whether they are a professional collegue, a friend, or just some random member. I'm going to leave this at the current 30-Day ban. If you decide to come back after that, then good for you. I do give second chances to everyone, but take advantage of it, and I will blow you right out of the water. Dont push your luck. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

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