Friend sent me this link Sounds iffy to me?!?

BubbastanGT · 02-25-2008, 01:16 PM

http://www.water4gasnewyork.com/

StreetRacer · 02-25-2008, 01:24 PM

okay...uh...lololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lolololololol..........lol.........lol again....hehe..........

B-rett · 02-25-2008, 01:48 PM

brilliant....Ford is prob behind it hoping ppl will ruin their engines so they have to buy new engines/cars lol

PistonsFan102 · 02-25-2008, 01:53 PM

i hate you guys so much, finding out how i save on gas

r3dn3ck · 02-25-2008, 02:55 PM

if it only sounds "iffy" go ahead and start hitting yourself in the head with a tack hammer now and we'll tell you when to stop.

Are you guys going to make me seriously sit here and tell you why anyone that thinks a 9v battery and a quart of water is going to double your gas mileage is a MORON and should KILL THEMSELVES for the sake of humanity.

Look, I don't want to have to detail all this crap out so suffice it to say that it takes megalithic amounts of electricity to break the electron bond of water and split it into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen fuel cell cars do the inverse by mixing hydrogen and oxygen you get water and fantastic amounts of by-product electricity. You may produce energy in only 1 direction using h2o, the other direction is energy eating not producing.

Secondly, at atmospheric pressure gas state hydrogen and oxygen would be so diffuse in the mixture that your engine would stall if it were dependent on the augmented fuel supply for stoichiometric operation. Saying a mason jar full of water is full of 1800 cubic feet of hydrogen is retarded in the extreme... I can vaporize a quart of gasoline and make it as big as you want. The fact is you're talking about states of matter with their associated densities and gasses and liquids are only separated by temperature and pressure. If you separated and then pressurized the hydrogen from a quart of water so that it was at the same density as water at 1bar and 35deg you'd probably get just a few mouthfulls of liquid hydrogen. Not the gazillions of cubic meters you're reading.

Simply attempting to augment an energy dense complex fuel like gasoline with an energy un-dense reagent like hydrogen is not going to have much benefit until the delivery of h2 becomes ummmm... impressive to say the least.

Watering down your gas though will stretch your mileage and damage your engine and risk destroying it entirely. Remember, water is a FUEL CONTAMINANT and nothing else in a gas engine.

Finally, Ford just recently made a v10 6.8L supercharged hydrogen engine as some sort of proof of concept. It makes 18-21lbs of boost from a roots blower and nets 238hp. Yep.. piss ant 238hp from 20lbs of boost and hydrogen in a 6.8L v10. Does anyone else see how energy diffuse hydrogen is and how big a bitch it is to make good power with it?

Any of you that think hydrogen is a next gen fuel worth bothering with... probably a good idea to pick a new horse. The fact is that petrol fuels have at least 7-8 open electron bonding slots per molecule because it's chains of carbons with hydrogens hanging off waiting for an oxygen atom to bring stability to the bonds, hydrogen has 1 open slot per atom and bonds very easily and semi-permanently to oxygen. That means you get about 8x the power from bonding 1 molecule of gasoline as you would with hydrogen.

It has in fact been 20 years since chemistry so the amounts may be off a bit but the gist should be dead on. Hydrogen = noh bwaynoh. Water as gas = re-fukin-tarded

00blkstanggt · 02-25-2008, 02:59 PM

I also heard that you can gain around 20rwhp and a few extra miles per gallon if you add 12 oz. of chocolate syrup to your gas tank. The only thing is you have to make sure its Hersheys chocolate syrup.

true story..

r3dn3ck · 02-25-2008, 03:03 PM

scam alert.....

the buttfuker doesn't even sell you the parts, he sells you a book full of fiction. That's how he gets passed the whole false advertising thing. Steer clear.

r3dn3ck · 02-25-2008, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt

I also heard that you can gain around 20rwhp and a few extra miles per gallon if you add 12 oz. of chocolate syrup to your gas tank. The only thing is you have to make sure its Hersheys chocolate syrup.

true story..

made me blow snot out my nose... damn that was just the right funny at just the right time.

r3dn3ck · 02-25-2008, 03:08 PM

If I ever ship anyone shit that looks like this ... fukin' kill me:

*4.6 Love* · 02-25-2008, 03:24 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KZOsOB3z3IE

StreetRacer · 02-25-2008, 03:45 PM

need wile e coyote to demonstrate the acme water engine....heh heh....kids here wont remember him...hey whatever happened to loony tunes anyway?

Codiddy · 02-25-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StreetRacer

need wile e coyote to demonstrate the acme water engine....heh heh....kids here wont remember him...hey whatever happened to loony tunes anyway?

I'm in my early twenties and i remember loony toons

tsumi88 · 02-25-2008, 04:03 PM

ditto.... well..... mid...
heh,
http://home.nc.rr.com/tuco/looney/acme/acme.html

TUFF 4.6 · 02-25-2008, 04:10 PM

Hey R3d, you forgot the condom in the list of parts. That will help the anal installation on page 3. Thats about the only gas thats going to be extruded!!!!

Lazerred6 · 02-25-2008, 04:21 PM

If someone tries this shit and by some strange physical blasphamy it works I'll eat my mustang piece by piece but if you try it and it doesen't we all get to tar and feather you for being a tool.

00blkstanggt · 02-25-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

made me blow snot out my nose... damn that was just the right funny at just the right time.

haha, I do what I can. I'm just about 26 and I remember looney tunes. Use to watch it all the time.

BubbastanGT · 02-25-2008, 06:08 PM

I think Ill buy it, and one of those tornado superchargers...........JK GUYS JK...

3.9s beat gts · 02-25-2008, 10:25 PM

im 18 and i use to watch LT all the time
i miss roadrunner
*meep meep*

Dave04Mustang · 02-25-2008, 10:32 PM

oh yeah I'm going to buy that. We will see how many of you are laughing when I'm cruising around with water

I kid.. I kid..

gotMACH04 · 02-26-2008, 10:31 AM

lmfao

todd03blown · 02-26-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StreetRacer

need wile e coyote to demonstrate the acme water engine....heh heh....kids here wont remember him...hey whatever happened to loony tunes anyway?

looney tunes comes on all the time, check out nick jr and cartoon network. My 5yr old son watches them quite a bit.

02-25-2008, 01:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-25-2008, 01:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
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02-25-2008, 01:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
PistonsFan102 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 214	i hate you guys so much, finding out how i save on gas __________________

02-25-2008, 02:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,146	if it only sounds "iffy" go ahead and start hitting yourself in the head with a tack hammer now and we'll tell you when to stop. Are you guys going to make me seriously sit here and tell you why anyone that thinks a 9v battery and a quart of water is going to double your gas mileage is a MORON and should KILL THEMSELVES for the sake of humanity. Look, I don't want to have to detail all this crap out so suffice it to say that it takes megalithic amounts of electricity to break the electron bond of water and split it into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen fuel cell cars do the inverse by mixing hydrogen and oxygen you get water and fantastic amounts of by-product electricity. You may produce energy in only 1 direction using h2o, the other direction is energy eating not producing. Secondly, at atmospheric pressure gas state hydrogen and oxygen would be so diffuse in the mixture that your engine would stall if it were dependent on the augmented fuel supply for stoichiometric operation. Saying a mason jar full of water is full of 1800 cubic feet of hydrogen is retarded in the extreme... I can vaporize a quart of gasoline and make it as big as you want. The fact is you're talking about states of matter with their associated densities and gasses and liquids are only separated by temperature and pressure. If you separated and then pressurized the hydrogen from a quart of water so that it was at the same density as water at 1bar and 35deg you'd probably get just a few mouthfulls of liquid hydrogen. Not the gazillions of cubic meters you're reading. Simply attempting to augment an energy dense complex fuel like gasoline with an energy un-dense reagent like hydrogen is not going to have much benefit until the delivery of h2 becomes ummmm... impressive to say the least. Watering down your gas though will stretch your mileage and damage your engine and risk destroying it entirely. Remember, water is a FUEL CONTAMINANT and nothing else in a gas engine. Finally, Ford just recently made a v10 6.8L supercharged hydrogen engine as some sort of proof of concept. It makes 18-21lbs of boost from a roots blower and nets 238hp. Yep.. piss ant 238hp from 20lbs of boost and hydrogen in a 6.8L v10. Does anyone else see how energy diffuse hydrogen is and how big a bitch it is to make good power with it? Any of you that think hydrogen is a next gen fuel worth bothering with... probably a good idea to pick a new horse. The fact is that petrol fuels have at least 7-8 open electron bonding slots per molecule because it's chains of carbons with hydrogens hanging off waiting for an oxygen atom to bring stability to the bonds, hydrogen has 1 open slot per atom and bonds very easily and semi-permanently to oxygen. That means you get about 8x the power from bonding 1 molecule of gasoline as you would with hydrogen. It has in fact been 20 years since chemistry so the amounts may be off a bit but the gist should be dead on. Hydrogen = noh bwaynoh. Water as gas = re-fukin-tarded __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

02-25-2008, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
00blkstanggt Hot, Nasty, Bad ass speed Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Livermore, Ca Posts: 1,790	I also heard that you can gain around 20rwhp and a few extra miles per gallon if you add 12 oz. of chocolate syrup to your gas tank. The only thing is you have to make sure its Hersheys chocolate syrup. true story.. __________________ Sound clip of my car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-MhgSI-owQ

02-25-2008, 01:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
StreetRacer Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,639	okay...uh...lololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lolololololol..........lol.........lol again....hehe..........

02-25-2008, 03:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,146	scam alert..... the buttfuker doesn't even sell you the parts, he sells you a book full of fiction. That's how he gets passed the whole false advertising thing. Steer clear. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

02-25-2008, 03:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,146	If I ever ship anyone shit that looks like this ... fukin' kill me: __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

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02-25-2008, 03:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
StreetRacer Banned Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,639	need wile e coyote to demonstrate the acme water engine....heh heh....kids here wont remember him...hey whatever happened to loony tunes anyway?

02-25-2008, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
tsumi88 THE ONLY DARK GREEN VERT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: denver Posts: 467	ditto.... well..... mid... heh, http://home.nc.rr.com/tuco/looney/acme/acme.html __________________ -Paul "I can make computers survive aquatic conditions" Flowbots- handlebars 99 V6 vert AT CAI noob

02-25-2008, 04:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
TUFF 4.6 Senior Citizen Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Richmond Va. Posts: 686	Hey R3d, you forgot the condom in the list of parts. That will help the anal installation on page 3. Thats about the only gas thats going to be extruded!!!! __________________

02-25-2008, 04:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lazerred6 mmmmm cones Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 1,435	If someone tries this shit and by some strange physical blasphamy it works I'll eat my mustang piece by piece but if you try it and it doesen't we all get to tar and feather you for being a tool. __________________ So this is what you voted for

02-25-2008, 06:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
BubbastanGT needs a poweradder!!!!!!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: NY Posts: 84	I think Ill buy it, and one of those tornado superchargers...........JK GUYS JK... __________________ SCT XCAL 2 FRPP 4:10 Gears SLP Loudmouth I Catback BBK Cold air intake Billet Grille

02-25-2008, 10:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dave04Mustang Not Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,261	oh yeah I'm going to buy that. We will see how many of you are laughing when I'm cruising around with water I kid.. I kid.. __________________ sig by PcolaV6

02-26-2008, 10:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
gotMACH04 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbia,KY Posts: 541	lmfao __________________ 2004 AB Mach 1 - Hooker L/T's, Hooker O/R X, SLP LM II Catback, MGW Shifter, FRPP 4.10's, Eibach Pro-Kit, JLT CAI, SLP line lock, X-CAL 2 Custom Tune By Greg Mayton @ SpeedyDyno

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