4.10 Gears

rbstang · 03-10-2005, 03:07 PM

i was thinking bout buying the 4.10 gears i was wondering do i have to buy the master bearing kit with it or is it easy to install the gears? basically i wanna buy new gears for my 02 gt just tell me what to get and ill buy it and install it

tedinde · 03-10-2005, 08:36 PM

Gears are not for the novice to install. Find an installer first, then buy your gears. Under 50k miles you can buy just the ring and pinion. Over 50k its recommended to get the master rebuild kit. But its up to you and the installer.

My installer told me just to get the ring and pinion and he had the rest. Most installers have so many shims and left over parts from gear installs that they have enough shims and small parts for you.

Do not try and do this yourself, even if you could and I know I could if i had the tools, Thats the problem. The professional guages and tools you need to do it right cost way too much for just a one time install.

There is a local guy here everyone uses and does gear installs for $200, which is a bargain. He's done 5 Jobs for me in 15 years and never a problem and never any gear noise.

Where you located at. Ask around on the forums here to find a local installer. Or call 4x4 shops or speed shops to find an installer. Your Local Ford dealer can do installs, but it wont be cheap.

Welcome to the forums and Good luck

*4.6 Love* · 03-11-2005, 09:08 AM

Yeah..as stated above..don't try to do the install if you've never done it! Depending on the mileage of your car, will determine wether or not you need the bearing kit or not!

TonyStangs · 03-11-2005, 12:57 PM

is it pracitical for someone using their car everyday on the parkway to have 4.10?

TonyStangs · 03-11-2005, 12:59 PM

i am really really desperate for power though, i just didnt wanna ruin my car cause i go on the highway daily.

*4.6 Love* · 03-11-2005, 01:01 PM

Well if youre planning on adding a power adder I'd recommend 3.73's, which is what I've got! I'm running juice so 3.73's are perfec! 4.10 and higher would be good for n/a combos!

professorparadox · 03-11-2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

Well if youre planning on adding a power adder I'd recommend 3.73's, which is what I've got! I'm running juice so 3.73's are perfec! 4.10 and higher would be good for n/a combos!

What he said... also, do you have a slush box, or a manual. Either way I think 4.10's would be a little more gear than you'd want if you do alot of highway driving. Also, I think someone said something about ford dealers doing installs. I called my local dealer when I was looking for an install, and they said they only install O.E.M. but your local dealer could be different.

TonyStangs · 03-11-2005, 09:34 PM

my mustang is a manual, i have no problem for spending the extra money for the install - i just want a professional job you know , ill start doing some research on 3.73's, thanks.

*madmatt* · 03-12-2005, 06:33 AM

Im pretty happy with my 3.73s. Now that I have mufflers that dont drone, they are perfect. The RPM at 60 in 5th is like 2100 and it if anything, improved my mileage because I can stay in 5th and use it now. My car is squirrly enough in the wet as it is, so I cant imagine 4.10s in the rain, but Im sure they would be fun in a weekend car, along with flowmasters and a prochamber, but for a daily driver, Id stick with the 3.73's.

TonyStangs · 03-12-2005, 07:04 AM

perfect, thanks alot - gonna pick up a set as soon as possible

rbstang · 03-12-2005, 11:52 AM

i have a shop that i can use... my friend has done this before... and my car has 45,000 miles on it

mattbeezy · 03-18-2005, 06:23 PM

I was looking at putting the 4.10 in my 98 Gt, but was then told that it might be better to change the rear end completely from the 8.8" to the 9" with 4.10 all ready. Any thought on what would be better? Maybe even the 3.73, i do alot of in town driving but not highway. Im looking for more power then anything.

tedinde · 03-19-2005, 10:37 PM

Get the 4.10s If you had 2.73s to begin with, you might feel the difference getting 3.73s. If your one of the guys that run 90mph then you might should get 3.73, you you stay with traffic. The 4.10s would be fine on the highway.

TonyStangs · 03-20-2005, 03:53 AM

what would be my rpm at 60-65mph in 5th on the highway? i used to see a gear rpm calculator but i cant find it anymore

"94" 5.0 · 03-26-2005, 11:55 PM

heres the link to a calculator
http://www.tchracing.com/tech/gearcalc

spike_africa · 03-27-2005, 07:47 PM

who honestly goes 65-70 on the highway? i wanna know my rpms at 85mph.

*madmatt* · 03-27-2005, 08:11 PM

LOL, little ole me with the high school insurance rate that doesnt get to keep his car if he gets a ticket...and I even pay for it.

spike_africa · 03-27-2005, 08:36 PM

sucks for you but i cant go under 80 on the highway. **** the highway patrol does 90mph
ps if you scared of tickets get a valentine 1 and read the motor trend article on speeding it has good info. but most get a V1 they rule. i love mine.

*madmatt* · 03-28-2005, 05:50 AM

I dont do exactly the limit...lol usually keep it about 6 or 7 over. Just really depends how lucky I feel I guess. I watch carefully.

03-10-2005, 03:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
rbstang Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	4.10 Gears i was thinking bout buying the 4.10 gears i was wondering do i have to buy the master bearing kit with it or is it easy to install the gears? basically i wanna buy new gears for my 02 gt just tell me what to get and ill buy it and install it

03-10-2005, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
tedinde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bear Delaware Posts: 220	Gears are not for the novice to install. Find an installer first, then buy your gears. Under 50k miles you can buy just the ring and pinion. Over 50k its recommended to get the master rebuild kit. But its up to you and the installer. My installer told me just to get the ring and pinion and he had the rest. Most installers have so many shims and left over parts from gear installs that they have enough shims and small parts for you. Do not try and do this yourself, even if you could and I know I could if i had the tools, Thats the problem. The professional guages and tools you need to do it right cost way too much for just a one time install. There is a local guy here everyone uses and does gear installs for $200, which is a bargain. He's done 5 Jobs for me in 15 years and never a problem and never any gear noise. Where you located at. Ask around on the forums here to find a local installer. Or call 4x4 shops or speed shops to find an installer. Your Local Ford dealer can do installs, but it wont be cheap. Welcome to the forums and Good luck __________________ 1997GT SOHC, PI Heads,intake, SCT 4 bank, UPR CAI Zex Nitrous system 125 hp shot,Steeda Tri-AX March Underdrive pullies,2 1/2 O/R Pipe, Magnaflow Catbacks,Mac Upper and lower Control arms,5 speed 4.10 Gears,31 spline, Nitto 555 drag radials Spinning

03-11-2005, 09:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,132	Yeah..as stated above..don't try to do the install if you've never done it! Depending on the mileage of your car, will determine wether or not you need the bearing kit or not! __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

03-11-2005, 12:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	. is it pracitical for someone using their car everyday on the parkway to have 4.10? __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner

03-11-2005, 12:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	. i am really really desperate for power though, i just didnt wanna ruin my car cause i go on the highway daily. __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner

03-11-2005, 01:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,132	Well if youre planning on adding a power adder I'd recommend 3.73's, which is what I've got! I'm running juice so 3.73's are perfec! 4.10 and higher would be good for n/a combos! __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

03-11-2005, 09:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	. my mustang is a manual, i have no problem for spending the extra money for the install - i just want a professional job you know , ill start doing some research on 3.73's, thanks. __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner

03-12-2005, 06:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,911	Im pretty happy with my 3.73s. Now that I have mufflers that dont drone, they are perfect. The RPM at 60 in 5th is like 2100 and it if anything, improved my mileage because I can stay in 5th and use it now. My car is squirrly enough in the wet as it is, so I cant imagine 4.10s in the rain, but Im sure they would be fun in a weekend car, along with flowmasters and a prochamber, but for a daily driver, Id stick with the 3.73's. __________________ RPMPlanets

03-12-2005, 07:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	. perfect, thanks alot - gonna pick up a set as soon as possible __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner

03-12-2005, 11:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
rbstang Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	i have a shop that i can use... my friend has done this before... and my car has 45,000 miles on it

03-18-2005, 06:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
mattbeezy Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12	I was looking at putting the 4.10 in my 98 Gt, but was then told that it might be better to change the rear end completely from the 8.8" to the 9" with 4.10 all ready. Any thought on what would be better? Maybe even the 3.73, i do alot of in town driving but not highway. Im looking for more power then anything.

03-19-2005, 10:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
tedinde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bear Delaware Posts: 220	Get the 4.10s If you had 2.73s to begin with, you might feel the difference getting 3.73s. If your one of the guys that run 90mph then you might should get 3.73, you you stay with traffic. The 4.10s would be fine on the highway. __________________ 1997GT SOHC, PI Heads,intake, SCT 4 bank, UPR CAI Zex Nitrous system 125 hp shot,Steeda Tri-AX March Underdrive pullies,2 1/2 O/R Pipe, Magnaflow Catbacks,Mac Upper and lower Control arms,5 speed 4.10 Gears,31 spline, Nitto 555 drag radials Spinning

03-20-2005, 03:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
TonyStangs Mustang Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 272	what would be my rpm at 60-65mph in 5th on the highway? i used to see a gear rpm calculator but i cant find it anymore __________________ --__-- My 2002 Mustang GT --__-- - Urethane Cobra R Front Bumper - K&N Air Charger Intake - Mach 1 Grille Delete and Lip Spoiler (Painted To Match) - Side View Mirrors (Painted To Match) - 18x9/18x10 Chrome Saleen Wheels w/ Nitto Tires - Brembo Drilled/Slotted Rotors - Steeda Tri-Ax Short Shifter - Brake Calipers (Painted To Match) - Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - Tokico Struts/Shocks - Magnaflow Magnapack Cat-Back - MAC Off-Road H-Pipe - SCT Superchips XCaliber Tuner

03-26-2005, 11:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
"94" 5.0 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: elizabethtown,kentucky Posts: 29	heres the link to a calculator http://www.tchracing.com/tech/gearcalc

03-27-2005, 07:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 6,960	who honestly goes 65-70 on the highway? i wanna know my rpms at 85mph. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

03-27-2005, 08:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,911	LOL, little ole me with the high school insurance rate that doesnt get to keep his car if he gets a ticket...and I even pay for it. __________________ RPMPlanets

03-27-2005, 08:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 6,960	sucks for you but i cant go under 80 on the highway. **** the highway patrol does 90mph ps if you scared of tickets get a valentine 1 and read the motor trend article on speeding it has good info. but most get a V1 they rule. i love mine. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

03-28-2005, 05:50 AM	#19 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,911	I dont do exactly the limit...lol usually keep it about 6 or 7 over. Just really depends how lucky I feel I guess. I watch carefully. __________________ RPMPlanets

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