New Gears for my sixer.

IceMan · 11-18-2004, 04:31 AM

I'm ordering a Ford racing Posi-traction differential for my sixer but I'm still iffy on which gears to go with, 3.73 or 4.10?

WaterDR · 11-20-2004, 06:42 PM

I don't have any experience with 6's and gears, but I would guess more is better. If you drag, you may want to know how the gear options affect trap rpms etc.... but other than that, I would say 4.10's.

TayWolf55 · 11-24-2004, 04:34 PM

4.10s for auto, 3.73s for manual.

If you would like some more info, we have a huge guidea bout it at www.3.8mustang.com/forum/

Mustangdewd3.8 · 11-26-2004, 07:32 AM

yeah for the 5 speed you'll def. want 3.73, unless you do NO highway driving. because those gears are just gonna knock off your top speed. for example at like 70 miles per hour you'll be at like 4500 rpms with 4.10 and for 3.73 maybe at like 3500 rpms stressing on a an engine. you need a powerful engine before the gears but the 3.8 can def handle it

And Ford has a traction Lok the posi traction is GM

www.gefracing.com has great prices on gears, the T lok you'll need a chip and a speedo recal also to get the odometer working also :\

IceMan · 11-27-2004, 04:55 AM

I've got a tuner for athe recal Thanks for the input everybody.

spike_africa · 11-27-2004, 07:11 PM

you have a v6 so i wouldnt even think about getting a anything less than 4.10's

2000blackone · 11-27-2004, 07:49 PM

Everyone usually says 3.73s for 5spd and 4.10s for auto, but I'm a fan of gears, so I wouldn't mind 4.10s on a 5spd one bit. It should be a lot of fun

Mustangdewd3.8 · 11-28-2004, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000blackone

Everyone usually says 3.73s for 5spd and 4.10s for auto, but I'm a fan of gears, so I wouldn't mind 4.10s on a 5spd one bit. It should be a lot of fun

No you're right, it's fine it's just some of the shifting would be unbearable for daily driver that wants some kick off the line, but all in all 3.8 cant really handle these gears, you put way too much stress on the engine. I mean it will handle it but it tears it apart.

IceMan · 11-28-2004, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spike_africa

you have a v6 so i wouldnt even think about getting a anything less than 4.10's

Elaborate on that for me man... I was settled on 3.73's... now i'm questioning myself...

Mustangdewd3.8 · 11-28-2004, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IceMan

Elaborate on that for me man... I was settled on 3.73's... now i'm questioning myself...

He's basically saying the 3.73 won't create enough kick off the line for a v6. Which is not true. the 3.73 is a great all round gear for the stang v6, and I know many that have done it and will vouch for it's ratio. Yeah the 4.10 will do more but I dunno if he understands what 4.10s will do to the car.

Just answer this, will you do highway driving and how much do you drive it?
-Answer that and I can help you decide what you might be looking for.

Also you do know with gears you should get the Ford T lock the speedo recal and a chip rebuild kit and friction modifer?

95bstallion · 11-28-2004, 08:45 AM

I have 3.73's on my auto 95 sixer and they seem to give it some nice acceleration, but i dont go trying out my top speed often so i dont know really how it effected that.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 11-28-2004, 01:37 PM

They will take off your top end... Like 120 to.... 105-110

not too bad but the thing is at those speeds you'll be eating at the RPMs at like 4800 ... hard on the engine.

So if you dont do highway driving... it's cool to get higher gear ratio for engines that can't really handle it.

TayWolf55 · 11-29-2004, 07:48 PM

They wont affect your top end to the point where you would notice it.

If you do the math, the 4.10 gears can take you way above 120 miles per hour if you have the power to do so.

You can still hit the speed limiter at around 115 with 4.10s.

I hit 115 without a problem with my little 98 v6 with 4.10s.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 11-29-2004, 09:44 PM

No I know it's not that bad like top speed on a v6 is 121 but it will drop you to about 110 Im not say thats not toicible what i is that you'll be maxing out the rpms trust me I've seen these mods done to these cars.

4.10 gears can take you above but the engine can't Im saying that the v6 can't handle the 4.10 as they are intended but they can handle it for off the line.

TayWolf55 · 12-02-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8

No I know it's not that bad like top speed on a v6 is 121 but it will drop you to about 110 Im not say thats not toicible what i is that you'll be maxing out the rpms trust me I've seen these mods done to these cars.

4.10 gears can take you above but the engine can't Im saying that the v6 can't handle the 4.10 as they are intended but they can handle it for off the line.

Quote:

trust me I've seen these mods done to these cars.

I have too. One memory comes to mind... mine.

I rode at 115 hitting the speed limiter with a good 500 - 1000 rpm left. I know its not the best thing to do... especially in my little 98. It felt like it was about to fall apart. Last time I do that.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 12-02-2004, 06:23 PM

was the 98 a v6?

TayWolf55 · 12-03-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8

was the 98 a v6?

Yeah 150 hp beast.

Ran the 1/4 mile in 16.29. Whooo.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 12-03-2004, 03:43 PM

lol it is a beast, with 4.10s?

TayWolf55 · 12-03-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8

lol it is a beast, with 4.10s?

hehe yup. The funny thing is, with my automatic... I couldnt even spin the tires off the line, but it scratched second.

Heres the video:

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=9...AB0F7C1B7880FD

Scott02GT · 12-03-2004, 05:59 PM

3.73's are good enough, why? because someday when you decide to bolt a power adder up, you will aready have the right gears. 4.10 are too steep for a 6, they will do little more than eat up mileage. Get the 3.73's and spray it, happy stock GT hunting.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 12-03-2004, 07:00 PM

zactly gotta watch this vid ^^

That was an awesome video, did you have any other bolt on aside from the gears?

and btw where did you get those rocker panel stencils. ( my next thing I want to do ^^)

TayWolf55 · 12-03-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8

zactly gotta watch this vid ^^

That was an awesome video, did you have any other bolt on aside from the gears?

and btw where did you get those rocker panel stencils. ( my next thing I want to do ^^)

I had cold air intake, mac flowpath exhaust, and asp pulley

What are you talking about rocker panel stencils?

Scott02GT · 12-03-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TayWolf55

I had cold air intake, mac flowpath exhaust, and asp pulley

What are you talking about rocker panel stencils?

Rocker panel stencils come on the 6's, they are just graphics under the doors. I believe there are about four different ones, all look bad IMHO.

Mustangdewd3.8 · 12-04-2004, 08:04 AM

I liek the retro of it all, you car was white with black decals over your rocker panals, I guess they came on your car.

TayWolf55 · 12-04-2004, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8

I liek the retro of it all, you car was white with black decals over your rocker panals, I guess they came on your car.

Yeah they came stock on mine... my friend has them on his green v6 too. A lot of people told me to take them off but I liked them.

11-18-2004, 04:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
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11-20-2004, 06:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,357	I don't have any experience with 6's and gears, but I would guess more is better. If you drag, you may want to know how the gear options affect trap rpms etc.... but other than that, I would say 4.10's. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

11-24-2004, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
TayWolf55 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 597	4.10s for auto, 3.73s for manual. If you would like some more info, we have a huge guidea bout it at www.3.8mustang.com/forum/ __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 5 Speed Mac O/R H Pipe Mac Flowpath Catback JLT Ram Air Intake SCT XCal 2 Tuner FRPP 4.10 Gears 13.191 @ 103.78

11-27-2004, 04:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
IceMan Yellow C5 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ocoee, FL Posts: 301	I've got a tuner for athe recal Thanks for the input everybody. __________________ C5 Yellow Corvette Z06 - 402rwhp 392rwt 2003 Red Fire SVT Cobra - Sold 2003 Torch Red Mach 1 - Sold 2003 Black Mach 1 - Sold

11-27-2004, 07:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
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11-26-2004, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	yeah for the 5 speed you'll def. want 3.73, unless you do NO highway driving. because those gears are just gonna knock off your top speed. for example at like 70 miles per hour you'll be at like 4500 rpms with 4.10 and for 3.73 maybe at like 3500 rpms stressing on a an engine. you need a powerful engine before the gears but the 3.8 can def handle it And Ford has a traction Lok the posi traction is GM www.gefracing.com has great prices on gears, the T lok you'll need a chip and a speedo recal also to get the odometer working also :\

11-27-2004, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
2000blackone tire techy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ann Arbor. MI / West Lafayette, IN Posts: 113	Everyone usually says 3.73s for 5spd and 4.10s for auto, but I'm a fan of gears, so I wouldn't mind 4.10s on a 5spd one bit. It should be a lot of fun __________________ Boost yah? For further info on her and her stablemate, click here.

11-28-2004, 08:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
95bstallion Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Findlay Ohio Posts: 1,626	3.73's I have 3.73's on my auto 95 sixer and they seem to give it some nice acceleration, but i dont go trying out my top speed often so i dont know really how it effected that.

11-28-2004, 01:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	They will take off your top end... Like 120 to.... 105-110 not too bad but the thing is at those speeds you'll be eating at the RPMs at like 4800 ... hard on the engine. So if you dont do highway driving... it's cool to get higher gear ratio for engines that can't really handle it. __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing

11-29-2004, 07:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
TayWolf55 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 597	They wont affect your top end to the point where you would notice it. If you do the math, the 4.10 gears can take you way above 120 miles per hour if you have the power to do so. You can still hit the speed limiter at around 115 with 4.10s. I hit 115 without a problem with my little 98 v6 with 4.10s. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 5 Speed Mac O/R H Pipe Mac Flowpath Catback JLT Ram Air Intake SCT XCal 2 Tuner FRPP 4.10 Gears 13.191 @ 103.78

11-29-2004, 09:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	No I know it's not that bad like top speed on a v6 is 121 but it will drop you to about 110 Im not say thats not toicible what i is that you'll be maxing out the rpms trust me I've seen these mods done to these cars. 4.10 gears can take you above but the engine can't Im saying that the v6 can't handle the 4.10 as they are intended but they can handle it for off the line. __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing

12-02-2004, 06:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	was the 98 a v6? __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing

12-03-2004, 03:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	lol it is a beast, with 4.10s? __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing

12-03-2004, 05:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
Scott02GT Yeah, right Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 107	3.73's are good enough, why? because someday when you decide to bolt a power adder up, you will aready have the right gears. 4.10 are too steep for a 6, they will do little more than eat up mileage. Get the 3.73's and spray it, happy stock GT hunting.

12-03-2004, 07:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	zactly gotta watch this vid ^^ That was an awesome video, did you have any other bolt on aside from the gears? and btw where did you get those rocker panel stencils. ( my next thing I want to do ^^) __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing

12-04-2004, 08:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
Mustangdewd3.8 232 Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 140	I liek the retro of it all, you car was white with black decals over your rocker panals, I guess they came on your car. __________________ Red 1994 Mustang 232 AOD-E Ford Motorcraft - Steeda - Flowmaster - MAC Performance - Kumho - Ford Racing