For the chevy fans...
#1
For the chevy fans...
Video of the new Z...If the real things looks anything like that, and they get the tial lights fixed, i'll definately have one.
Blue oval sack riders need not comment.
http://videos.camaroz28.com/Player.a...6818B108C6&p=0
Blue oval sack riders need not comment.
http://videos.camaroz28.com/Player.a...6818B108C6&p=0
#2
We got an email a few days ago from GM to where the car is officially a Concept and they already have plans for production. Its going to feature an LS2 at 400hp and 6spd trans. 4 piston brakes all around and an interior styled from the new corvettes. I just browsed the quick numbers and went on to my buisness so I cant say much more.
A camaro lover at work told me it would smash on my mustang and I said the new cobra has 475 hp, and he just said "fvck you." lol. Im trying to get him to bring out his 68 rs/ss to the track when it opens up. Im going to eat that car alive. Hahahah!
A camaro lover at work told me it would smash on my mustang and I said the new cobra has 475 hp, and he just said "fvck you." lol. Im trying to get him to bring out his 68 rs/ss to the track when it opens up. Im going to eat that car alive. Hahahah!
#4
Originally Posted by MattJ
We got an email a few days ago from GM to where the car is officially a Concept and they already have plans for production. Its going to feature an LS2 at 400hp and 6spd trans. 4 piston brakes all around and an interior styled from the new corvettes. I just browsed the quick numbers and went on to my buisness so I cant say much more.
A camaro lover at work told me it would smash on my mustang and I said the new cobra has 475 hp, and he just said "fvck you." lol. Im trying to get him to bring out his 68 rs/ss to the track when it opens up. Im going to eat that car alive. Hahahah!
A camaro lover at work told me it would smash on my mustang and I said the new cobra has 475 hp, and he just said "fvck you." lol. Im trying to get him to bring out his 68 rs/ss to the track when it opens up. Im going to eat that car alive. Hahahah!
#6
Two problems with this car.
1. it will prolly cost the same 60-80k as the Vette does.
2. GM and Chrysler have completely dorked up any retro they have tried so far.
I bet this ruin that design also by the time it gets to production.
1. it will prolly cost the same 60-80k as the Vette does.
2. GM and Chrysler have completely dorked up any retro they have tried so far.
I bet this ruin that design also by the time it gets to production.
#7
Originally Posted by timstpetefl
Two problems with this car.
1. it will prolly cost the same 60-80k as the Vette does.
2. GM and Chrysler have completely dorked up any retro they have tried so far.
I bet this ruin that design also by the time it gets to production.
1. it will prolly cost the same 60-80k as the Vette does.
2. GM and Chrysler have completely dorked up any retro they have tried so far.
I bet this ruin that design also by the time it gets to production.
First of all..the base model C6 Corvette doesn't cost that price...you might be thinking of the Z06 which you can pull off 60k out the door. The new Camaro will have the LS2 motor (base model C6 6.0 liter 400 hp 400 tq motor)
It'll probabaly cost from 30k-40k...this will then compete with the GTO, the new Challanger, Mustang, and other cars in this power/price range. Chevy didn't pass DOT qualifications for the new Camaro. (Ie...tail lights, side mirors, door handles, didn't pass DOT expectations). So the Camaro still has a long road to go as far as cosmetics until we can really see the "final product" which probabaly won't for at least a year and a half to two years.
And the whole retro throwback theme...well thats just a matter of opinion. Personally the best throwback yet is the Dodge Challanger.
#8
I love all american muscle and pony cars so seeing the Camaro back is great. They do have a contract problem with Canada that GM broke which does not allow them to use Camaro name brand until 2010 since they closed their plant up their. Wonder if they resolved that issue? Am I a Mustang fan yes but Ford no. I bought a Hemi Durango and I am really happy I did. Dodge and Chrysler has been kicking butt in the styling dept and the Challanger should be something that has the potential to be great. Always keep your minds open plus Id rather get beat but another v8 than a turbo 4.
#9
Originally Posted by venom
I love all american muscle and pony cars so seeing the Camaro back is great. They do have a contract problem with Canada that GM broke which does not allow them to use Camaro name brand until 2010 since they closed their plant up their. Wonder if they resolved that issue? Am I a Mustang fan yes but Ford no. I bought a Hemi Durango and I am really happy I did. Dodge and Chrysler has been kicking butt in the styling dept and the Challanger should be something that has the potential to be great. Always keep your minds open plus Id rather get beat but another v8 than a turbo 4.
i agree with most of that except dodge and chrysler are ok in the styling department but they're not reliable.
#10
Originally Posted by MattJ
id also like to add that production wont look like that. Every concept ive seen that hit production never turns out the same.
Especially with GM. Did you ever see the concept GTO? Nothing like what they cranked out... :yawn:
#11
Originally Posted by FritoBandito
Especially with GM. Did you ever see the concept GTO? Nothing like what they cranked out... :yawn:
thats because they changed their mind and used the holden monero
#12
New Chev muscle car a Holden underneath!
Plenty of grunt ... the Chevrolet Camaro concept car. Photo: Reuters
By Joshua Dowling Herald Motoring Editor, in Detroit January 11, 2006
AUSTRALIAN know-how may revive yet another American icon.
At the Detroit motor show yesterday, Chevrolet revealed a new Camaro but beneath the muscle-car body were the underpinnings for the next generation of Australia's biggest selling car, the Holden Commodore.
Like a giant jigsaw puzzle, car makers are increasingly sharing underbody components in order to save money - and get more models.
They fit different bodies so the cars look different but share parts customers can't see.
Since Holden began exporting the Monaro to the US three years ago (where it is sold as a Pontiac GTO), the Australian outpost has increasingly come to the attention of its parent company, General Motors.
Holden is one of only three GM brands around the world that makes large rear-wheel drive cars, such as the Commodore and Statesman.
Demand from American baby boomers for modern muscle cars sent American executives to Australia looking for help. The Camaro was yesterday labelled a "concept car" but the Herald understands it is close to being confirmed for production.
"We have Australian engineers working on this project right now," Denny Mooney, the American boss of Holden, told the Herald.
With his connections in the US, it is likely the Chevrolet Camaro could be built in North America on the same production line as the next generation Pontiac GTO, which is due in 2008. Given that they share major underbody components, the same US factory could also produce a version of the new Holden Statesman, to be sold as a Buick.
But Mr Mooney stressed that production of the Commodore, Statesman and other models would continue in Australia and, in addition to its local manufacturing commitments, Holden would become the main supplier of technical expertise for GM's large rear-drive cars around the world.
"Holden is responsible for General Motors' global rear-drive architecture," Mr Mooney said. "We own the expertise to assemble and develop it."
Given this new development it is possible Holden could revive the Chevrolet brand in Australia.
Holden is already planning to establish a network of Australian dealers for Cadillacs brand and is also considering the potential of a Chevrolet revival.
Since it is based on the Commodore's underpinnings, the Camaro could easily be built in right-hand drive, according to Holden sources.
The last time Chevrolet was officially sold in Australia was in the 1960s, before GM withdrew the brand to focus on Holden.
The all-new models of the Commodore and Statesman are due on sale in August and September this year.
Plenty of grunt ... the Chevrolet Camaro concept car. Photo: Reuters
By Joshua Dowling Herald Motoring Editor, in Detroit January 11, 2006
AUSTRALIAN know-how may revive yet another American icon.
At the Detroit motor show yesterday, Chevrolet revealed a new Camaro but beneath the muscle-car body were the underpinnings for the next generation of Australia's biggest selling car, the Holden Commodore.
Like a giant jigsaw puzzle, car makers are increasingly sharing underbody components in order to save money - and get more models.
They fit different bodies so the cars look different but share parts customers can't see.
Since Holden began exporting the Monaro to the US three years ago (where it is sold as a Pontiac GTO), the Australian outpost has increasingly come to the attention of its parent company, General Motors.
Holden is one of only three GM brands around the world that makes large rear-wheel drive cars, such as the Commodore and Statesman.
Demand from American baby boomers for modern muscle cars sent American executives to Australia looking for help. The Camaro was yesterday labelled a "concept car" but the Herald understands it is close to being confirmed for production.
"We have Australian engineers working on this project right now," Denny Mooney, the American boss of Holden, told the Herald.
With his connections in the US, it is likely the Chevrolet Camaro could be built in North America on the same production line as the next generation Pontiac GTO, which is due in 2008. Given that they share major underbody components, the same US factory could also produce a version of the new Holden Statesman, to be sold as a Buick.
But Mr Mooney stressed that production of the Commodore, Statesman and other models would continue in Australia and, in addition to its local manufacturing commitments, Holden would become the main supplier of technical expertise for GM's large rear-drive cars around the world.
"Holden is responsible for General Motors' global rear-drive architecture," Mr Mooney said. "We own the expertise to assemble and develop it."
Given this new development it is possible Holden could revive the Chevrolet brand in Australia.
Holden is already planning to establish a network of Australian dealers for Cadillacs brand and is also considering the potential of a Chevrolet revival.
Since it is based on the Commodore's underpinnings, the Camaro could easily be built in right-hand drive, according to Holden sources.
The last time Chevrolet was officially sold in Australia was in the 1960s, before GM withdrew the brand to focus on Holden.
The all-new models of the Commodore and Statesman are due on sale in August and September this year.
#16
As a camaro lover, I gotta say that even if it came out just as is, I would be dissappointed. Looks like an rx-8 from behind, it just isn't a camaro. It has 68-69 cues just.....I dunno......all the australian guts.......GM's designers suck ***** x-cept for corvette.
#18
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i'm a ford guy...
but i do like alot of mopar and gm stuff...
what kills me is how ford comes out with the '05 that looked like nothing else being made... and how GM tries to do the same and does a **** poor job...
All the cars that chevy tried the "retro" look on... they ****ed up... bad...
I dont think i'll ever buy anything other then a mustang...
the z06 is a fine car but...
the 07 shelby! i dont care how much better the vette is cause that shelb is a beautiful car... ford
but i do like alot of mopar and gm stuff...
what kills me is how ford comes out with the '05 that looked like nothing else being made... and how GM tries to do the same and does a **** poor job...
All the cars that chevy tried the "retro" look on... they ****ed up... bad...
I dont think i'll ever buy anything other then a mustang...
the z06 is a fine car but...
the 07 shelby! i dont care how much better the vette is cause that shelb is a beautiful car... ford
#19
wtf is that?
What i never understood, is why chevy made 2 v8s that could compete with each other ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
#20
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Originally Posted by YoshiBluedevil
What i never understood, is why chevy made 2 v8s that could compete with each other ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
#22
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
GOD DAMMIT I HATE IT! IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER ****ING CHRYSLER 300C.
THUMBS DOWN.
It looks like it weighs 6,000 mother ****ing pounds!
Pirce of junk, Scrap it, DESIGNERS ARE FIRED.
THUMBS DOWN.
It looks like it weighs 6,000 mother ****ing pounds!
Pirce of junk, Scrap it, DESIGNERS ARE FIRED.
#23
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
GOD DAMMIT I HATE IT! IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER ****ING CHRYSLER 300C.
THUMBS DOWN.
It looks like it weighs 6,000 mother ****ing pounds!
Pirce of junk, Scrap it, DESIGNERS ARE FIRED.
THUMBS DOWN.
It looks like it weighs 6,000 mother ****ing pounds!
Pirce of junk, Scrap it, DESIGNERS ARE FIRED.
What are you talking about? How does it look like a 300C at all? AND as has been said, the final product will look a lot different, because a lot of the conceptual cosmetics will never pass through DOT. Its smart of Chevy to produce the Camaro again. Their C6 doesn't compete with some of the other cars that Dodge, Ford, and other manufactures produce. (Ie...the new Charger, the new Challanger, the new Mustang, etc...)
#24
Originally Posted by YoshiBluedevil
What i never understood, is why chevy made 2 v8s that could compete with each other ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
y make a vette with an LS2, and then a camaro, with the same motor, for less? the vette will fail, and it will only be the z06 and the camaro. then u know they will drop in the ls7 to the camaro, and sell it for less, and then bye bye vette...
i agree it looks like a 300c, but it wont stay like that ...
even with what ive got under my hood N/A, when i see a camaro, or a transam, i get nervous, because i know the potential of a motor like that.
what i really dont get is y ford uses a 4.6L still, while chevy can pass emissions and all with a 5.7L, 6L, and 7L all making 300+ hp with 300+ tq.
All in all, the car looks alright ... but come on, why make 2 cars, with the same motor, in different price ranges? Ford knows what they are doing by making a 210hp mustang, 300hp mustang gt, and 475hp cobra. based on what u are willing to pay, u get a good ride, a nice ride, or a helluva car!
i highly doubt the new camaro will be 30-40 with an LS2 unless they kill the suspension, and ruin the interior ... but if they are going to base their interior on the vette ... it again falls upon my point of WHY?! and bye bye vette ...
Hence GM needs to sell cars, not worry about winning the HP race, while it's important to keep HP higher, but you can't sacrifice appeal for speed...the Vette also is considered an old mans car....mid life crisis... Mustangs are usually for a younger crowd...
#25
You blue oval sack riders would think it is the best car in the world if it was a ford.......awsome car and the looks are not to shabby, and yes, of course it won't look like that when it does come out.
#26
i would hardly call us "sack riders," but no i wouldnt think it was the coolest thing if it were a ford. i like the ford gt, but not cause its a ford ... i would prefer a vette since its less then the GT, and viper, and outperforms the viper, and barely loses to the GT.
just cause i think its dumb to have 2 very similar cars with the same motor, and one is like 10k less. for the "old mid-life crisis" people, if they want to blow 10k for the name "corvette" when they can have a camaro for 10k less and make it a helluva lot faster and such for that 10k difference ... it just seems kinda dumb.
at this point arguing doesnt matter because it wont look liek that at all like everyone is saying. we will see what its like when they come out with the final plan, and see how it compares to a vette. but right now, if i had $70k to blow on a car, and i had to choose between a 45k vette, a 65k z06, or a 35k camaro, i would go with the slowmaro :shifty: . I mean honestly, who wouldnt? Its just dumb to think that anyone would pay 10k more for a car so similar. Think of it this way, if u had a choice between a 300hp new mustang, and a 300hp older cobra that costs 20% less ... what would you buy? dont tell me you would spend more just for the look, because that would make you an idiot lol
just think about it. its a nice looking, but we wont know until we get a final model, and a base price.
just cause i think its dumb to have 2 very similar cars with the same motor, and one is like 10k less. for the "old mid-life crisis" people, if they want to blow 10k for the name "corvette" when they can have a camaro for 10k less and make it a helluva lot faster and such for that 10k difference ... it just seems kinda dumb.
at this point arguing doesnt matter because it wont look liek that at all like everyone is saying. we will see what its like when they come out with the final plan, and see how it compares to a vette. but right now, if i had $70k to blow on a car, and i had to choose between a 45k vette, a 65k z06, or a 35k camaro, i would go with the slowmaro :shifty: . I mean honestly, who wouldnt? Its just dumb to think that anyone would pay 10k more for a car so similar. Think of it this way, if u had a choice between a 300hp new mustang, and a 300hp older cobra that costs 20% less ... what would you buy? dont tell me you would spend more just for the look, because that would make you an idiot lol
just think about it. its a nice looking, but we wont know until we get a final model, and a base price.
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