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Old 12-10-2009, 02:46 PM
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I have a rant I have to get out of my system.

I'm a regular on another Mustang forum. They have a sub-forum about 'kill stories'. You guys know what that is, so I don't have to explain it. Anyway, no matter what, there are those that come into the person's thread and say 'oooooh, street racing is bad' or more commonly 'take it to the track'. Then you have the sheep that blindly follow that first person and basically say the same thing, just so they look cool and fit in on that stupid ******* thing called a 'bandwagon'.

I do have a problem with racing when it is done on busy, populated roads. I can definitely see the unavoidable danger in that. I think that is careless and stupid, but people do it regardless. They always have and they always will. Of course, there are those idiots that will race anytime, anywhere, and they are the real menaces.

However, I honestly have no problem with racing if it's done on deserted roads. If there are no people or any traffic around, where is the harm in that? At least if people race in the boonies, the only things they hurt are themselves, maybe a tree, or an animal. But noooo, you might kill innocent people. You might kill that family of 6 living in a singlewide trailer 6 miles down and 400 yards off the side of the road from where you are racing! Then you'll burn in the fires of hell for eternity for doing that!

All I'm saying is that I ******* hate street racing ****'s and people who are all 'take it to the track' and so incredibly opposed to any kind of street racing like they've never opened it up anywhere but the track before. They just say it because it makes them look saintly like Mother Theresa in a supercharged V8 Mustang with 550hp to the wheels that don't have a lick of tread left on them, yet it's never been to the track.

It's just irritating me, is all. Why even have a 'kill stories' sub-forum if the only responses given are 'take it to the track'? Just get rid of the damn thing, already. Do they seriously think everyone races only at the track?

Like I said, I have no problem with it as long as no one else is being put in danger. People just need to use discretion, is all... yet I'm constantly reminded of stupidity every day.
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:48 PM
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:51 PM
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I killed a rabbit the other day......... ****** didn't have a chance.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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I killed a rabbit the other day......... ****** didn't have a chance.
LMAO!

I agree Black Sunshine. I am by no means a saint. I will even admit that I have had nights to were I drove around trying to find guys that would race me.

Have I ever done it on a busy street? No. Nor would I ever.

But, have I street raced. Hell yes, and nor will I stop as long as it's in as safe of an environment as possible.

I HATE people who go around saying the same things you were talking about. Telling people to take it to the track and quit street racing. Because, the simple fact is this.

The nearest track to me is about a two-hour drive away and costs about $30 everytime to get in. And it's a drag strip, my car is not built for a drag nor do I care for drag racing it's boring to me compared to road racing.

The nearest road course is almost 4-5 hours away, and all of the auto-x events around here are done in the northern part of missouri and are once again 4-5 hours away.

If there were tracks even remotely close that didn't cost $200 a day to go to I would go all the time, but sadly there isn't. Instead they're closing down tracks.

So I will keep to my street racing. I know people can die from it, but I've had friends die on road courses too so that's not saying anything. I will, however, keep it on back roads, or roads that I know people don't drive on. Not in the middle of traffic.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:03 PM
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I can't talk I have a really nice drag strip super close to me that lets you race for cheap and during the summer I have an autocross within an hour of me every month and when we get bored my buddies dads shop has a huge parking lot and we have traffic cones to play with.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:33 PM
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Take it to the track.

yer gonna kill yourself or somebody else.

you must all hate babies or something

you bunch of baby-runner-over-ers

Does Vals bloodlust know no bounds? how many inncoents must be maimed slaughtered and killed so she can get her rocks off?

You should all be ashamed.

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Old 12-10-2009, 05:04 PM
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Take it to the track.

yer gonna kill yourself or somebody else.

you must all hate babies or something

you bunch of baby-runner-over-ers

Does Vals bloodlust know no bounds? how many inncoents must be maimed slaughtered and killed so she can get her rocks off?

You should all be ashamed.

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Every time someone street races, baby jesus kills a kitten.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:26 PM
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Every time someone street races, baby jesus kills a kitten.

LMFAO!!!



It's just PC!! Half them preachy bastards are out there drunk driving, and the other half are at home beating the wife and kids.

Facts are facts people have been racing since we realized we could move, foot races, horse races, buggy races, car races, planes, boats and even mowers. If it moves...we will race it!
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:17 PM
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I really try not to race on the street, but com'on, when there is no one around and that driver in the next lane is begging for it, you gotta lay the hammer. I feel bad right after I race on the street though.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:42 PM
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I use 2 street race anything that would race in my civic, but when the blue lights catch up then it aint so fun. I thought no big deal just pay the damn fine and go on. WRONG. In Kentucky you have to go b4 the judge for racing and Let me tell you it sucks! The fine is $200 + court cost, and up to 30 DAYS in jail. I bout **** myself when the judge said that. I got a slap on the wrist with a speeding 10 over fine, court cost, and traffic school. It end up being around $140, but a big enough scare to keep me from thinking about it again. I still want to, but I'm not built 4 jail.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:58 PM
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I guess I'm one of those ****'s.. I'm all for opening it up every once in a while, but street racing is stupid. I understand that not everyone has access to tracks like we do here in the south, hell, I've got 3 tracks within probably a 50-60 mile radius. Probably even a couple more now that I think about it.

I'm just one of those people who would rather be safe then sorry. If I wreck my car on the track that would suck, but at least I won't be putting anyone else in harms way like you do on the street. I couldn't live with myself if I hurt or killed someone while doing something stupid like racing some ******* Honda Civic in the next lane, even if it wasn't my fault.

Answer me this.... Those of you who do street race.. How often do those races take place when it's only you and the person you're racing within say a 1 mile radius? Probably never..

So, I'll be the first to actually say it in this thread. "Take it to the track."
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:25 PM
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I guess I'm one of those ****'s.. I'm all for opening it up every once in a while, but street racing is stupid. I understand that not everyone has access to tracks like we do here in the south, hell, I've got 3 tracks within probably a 50-60 mile radius. Probably even a couple more now that I think about it.

I'm just one of those people who would rather be safe then sorry. If I wreck my car on the track that would suck, but at least I won't be putting anyone else in harms way like you do on the street. I couldn't live with myself if I hurt or killed someone while doing something stupid like racing some ******* Honda Civic in the next lane, even if it wasn't my fault.

Answer me this.... Those of you who do street race.. How often do those races take place when it's only you and the person you're racing within say a 1 mile radius? Probably never..

So, I'll be the first to actually say it in this thread. "Take it to the track."
I had originally planned on staying quite about this one, but I support this post 100,000%.
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Answer me this.... Those of you who do street race.. How often do those races take place when it's only you and the person you're racing within say a 1 mile radius? Probably never..

Speaking as someone from the end of the continent, literally, and the middle of nowhere, almost every time. Contrary to the belief of the government and racing *****, some people can actually think for themselves and know how to find safer areas to do such activities. If you can find a road secluded enough to race on where there's no one around to call the cops, then there also isn't anyone around to get hurt except for the occasional opossum. And those little bastards are in no danger of going extinct.
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Am I going to claim I'm a saint? Nope. Do I think people should have better judgement? Sure. Should people keep to a track to push their cars to the limit? Absolutely.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:48 PM
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So, I'll be the first to actually say it in this thread. "Take it to the track."

Reffer to post number 2 dumbass.


EDIT: AND post 6

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Speaking as someone from the end of the continent, literally, and the middle of nowhere, almost every time. Contrary to the belief of the government and racing *****, some people can actually think for themselves and know how to find safer areas to do such activities. If you can find a road secluded enough to race on where there's no one around to call the cops, then there also isn't anyone around to get hurt except for the occasional opossum. And those little bastards are in no danger of going extinct.

yah but tracks normally have paramedics and an ambulance on site so when you or the other guy wipe out and start bleeding out you have a chance to survive.

if yer 30 minutes out from anything, thats an extra 30 minutes to be bleeding out all over yer buddies back seat.

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yah but tracks normally have paramedics and an ambulance on site so when you or the other guy wipe out and start bleeding out you have a chance to survive.

if yer 30 minutes out from anything, thats an extra 30 minutes to be bleeding out all over yer buddies back seat.

Absolutely right, but that means nothing when there is no track around. I've never met anyone that did it and thought it was perfectly safe or didn't know the consequences.
I suppose the "take it to the track" crew have never run from one light to the ridiculously close next light or up to the speed limit . Because street racing is always just like a slow and curious, or is it fast and furious, movie isn't it? And anything with enough power to lose control of below 55 without a treated surface and full slicks probably isn't going to be running through town anyway.
New conspiracy theory...
the government wants gas to be at least three dollars a gallon or more to keep the folks that cant afford to drive halfway to hell to a track and pay to get in and wait for three hours for one pass from street racing. Because in the land of the free, you're not free to risk hurting yourself whether anyone else is involved or not.
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People say "What, are you fucken scared or what???" Yeah! Basically. 1. my car is too slow. 2. I never have more than a 1/4 tank of gas. 3. Usually the car is overloaded with smoke and I don't need anything else bringing unwanted attention to me. (even though I think the car sticks out like a sore thumb already)
So take it to San Antonio Raceway dickmouth!!

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Old 12-10-2009, 10:19 PM
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Speaking as someone from the end of the continent, literally, and the middle of nowhere, almost every time. Contrary to the belief of the government and racing *****, some people can actually think for themselves and know how to find safer areas to do such activities. If you can find a road secluded enough to race on where there's no one around to call the cops, then there also isn't anyone around to get hurt except for the occasional opossum. And those little bastards are in no danger of going extinct.
You know what the problem with your theory is? Most people aren't smart. I would venture to say that at least 50% of Americans have never heard of Common Sense and have never even begun to think of how to use it.

Did I say that I never drive my car fast? No.. Did I say that I've never gunned it up to the speed limit? No.. But my car has never been over 100 miles per hour on any surface but a race track. I am an insurance agent and have had to see too many peoples lives changed simply by getting hit while trying to drive to work to think that it's ok to allow idiots to race on the street, however desolate or deserted you think it may be.

You can try to justify it over and over again, I really don't care what you say, you'll be wrong every time.

Can you Imagine what it would be like to race down that desolate road and hit a stranded car on the side of the road and kill or hurt an innocent person or family? Think about that then try to justify the actions.

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Reffer to post number 2 dumbass.


EDIT: AND post 6

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I thought you were kidding, that's why I said I was the first one to "actually say it."

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Old 12-11-2009, 01:03 AM
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Can you Imagine what it would be like to race down that desolate road and hit a stranded car on the side of the road and kill or hurt an innocent person or family? Think about that then try to justify the actions.
Actually, referring back to what someone said earlier, many of us do find stranded roads. What I personally mean as a stranded road is either one, an old highway that has been shut down, or two, abandoned airstrips (yes they exist where I live). If you want to pull something out of your *** that an abandoned airstrip is going to have a random ******* trailer on it than go ahead but we have searched for hours finding the best spot possible for our car meets, and for us to play around at.

We keep it as safe as we possibly can, i.e. no people parking past the starting line or people sitting off to the side. Everyone stays behind and only two cars at a time are going down lane.

I would LOVE to go to a track. Hell it'd be ten times more fun, prepped track not shitty bumpy roads, accurate time results, the list goes on. But I'm not about to drive five hours and pay two-hundred bucks just to get maybe an hour or two of track time.

Instead I can go out with guys I know that have cars equal to mine and play around.

Do I go out every night risking it? Hell no, but if we're all not busy one day we might just go drive around and play around. We don't go downtown and act stupid.

Do most people do this? Hell no. Most would do it wherever there's the distance to race, sometimes not even that. But we don't.

I'm not a ******* stereotype, I'm a ******* person.

I don't do the same stupid **** as everyone else. I don't street race just to "street" race. If there was a free track nearby I'd wear the **** out of it. I'd be their best customer, but there isn't. And as the future goes on it'll only get worse as more tracks get shut down.
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Its really not that hard to be safe when street racing....

All you need is common sense.

Not that I do it alot these days anyhow, but still. Anyone can come up with as many reasons that they want to as to why street racing is dangerous, and I can come up with just as many reasons as to why those reasons are ridiculous.

I hope that makes sense. Its almost 5 in the morning.....
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Take it to the track.

yer gonna kill yourself or somebody else.

you must all hate babies or something

you bunch of baby-runner-over-ers

Does Vals bloodlust know no bounds? how many inncoents must be maimed slaughtered and killed so she can get her rocks off?

You should all be ashamed.

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I guess I'm one of those ****'s.. I'm all for opening it up every once in a while, but street racing is stupid. I understand that not everyone has access to tracks like we do here in the south, hell, I've got 3 tracks within probably a 50-60 mile radius. Probably even a couple more now that I think about it.
I completely understand where you're coming from, but not everyone has the time to drive 50-60 miles to a track. I wouldn't spend an hour driving all the way to a track just for a couple runs and then drive an hour home.

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I'm just one of those people who would rather be safe then sorry. If I wreck my car on the track that would suck, but at least I won't be putting anyone else in harms way like you do on the street. I couldn't live with myself if I hurt or killed someone while doing something stupid like racing some ******* Honda Civic in the next lane, even if it wasn't my fault.
I'm not talking about 'on the street'. I'm talking about in the damn boonies. Where all that is around you is cow pastures/phosphate mines, haha. That's what there is about 15 minutes south of me. There are areas where there aren't any residences or businesses and you won't see any for miles.

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Answer me this.... Those of you who do street race.. How often do those races take place when it's only you and the person you're racing within say a 1 mile radius? Probably never..
I don't street race, but that's not saying I don't open it up on my own when I'm by myself driving around in the sticks. But where I'm from, there would be only me and the person I was racing within probably 2 or 3 miles because there's nothing but phosphate mines and cow pastures, like I said earlier. It is not hard for me to find a good, straight road that I can see up ahead for quite a good distance.

The guys from Orlando that have been to where I am can vouch for this.

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So, I'll be the first to actually say it in this thread. "Take it to the track."
Like I said, I understand your position totally, but I'm not sure if you understand mine. I am against street racing on populated streets and roads that aren't completely desolate. There are abandoned mines around where I live, no semi's, no cars, no nothing. Just flat out abandoned roads.

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Am I going to claim I'm a saint? Nope. Do I think people should have better judgement? Sure. Should people keep to a track to push their cars to the limit? Absolutely.
I think people should keep to a track to push their cars to the limit, too, but if you're just romping on it for a little fun, not to push it to the limit, I can't see a problem as long as you do it wisely.

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You know what the problem with your theory is? Most people aren't smart. I would venture to say that at least 50% of Americans have never heard of Common Sense and have never even begun to think of how to use it.
I completely agree with you, but I think that number should be closer to 90%. I don't even know why they call it 'common sense' because no one has it, so how the hell can it be common?

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Did I say that I never drive my car fast? No.. Did I say that I've never gunned it up to the speed limit? No.. But my car has never been over 100 miles per hour on any surface but a race track. I am an insurance agent and have had to see too many peoples lives changed simply by getting hit while trying to drive to work to think that it's ok to allow idiots to race on the street, however desolate or deserted you think it may be.
"However desolate or deserted you think it may be"... When there is a straight open road that you can see clearly for a distance and there is nothing but cow pastures around, I hardly think it is concievable for a person to just pop out of thin air and jump in front of a car, unless it is a bum sleeping in a ditch or something.

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You can try to justify it over and over again, I really don't care what you say, you'll be wrong every time.
There's no one right or wrong here, just differences in opinion. The only people that could be completely wrong in this conversation are those that come in and say they race anytime, anywhere and don't give a ****. I don't see anyone in this thread saying anything like that. As far as I can tell, everyone who has replied to this thread does have common sense and can utilize proper discretion when picking a spot to 'race' or just have a little fun on their own.

I don't think you're wrong. I just don't completely agree with you.

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Can you Imagine what it would be like to race down that desolate road and hit a stranded car on the side of the road and kill or hurt an innocent person or family? Think about that then try to justify the actions.
What stranded car? What innocent person or family? Like I said previously; on the backroads I'm talking about, there is NOTHING. The only thing you could kill is either cows or yourself. Some of these places, there aren't even any trees.

I actually can't imagine how horrible I'd feel if I was racing in an area that wasn't completely desolate and did hit someone and kill them. I don't want to think about it, which is why I'm careful unless I'm on the backroads. That's where I have my fun when I'm alone.

Besides, there are people at the track, aren't there? Who's to say you won't lose control and flip over the guard rails and kill innocent people there? The same thing can happen anywhere. You can be driving the speed limit and lose control and kill someone.

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Actually, referring back to what someone said earlier, many of us do find stranded roads. What I personally mean as a stranded road is either one, an old highway that has been shut down, or two, abandoned airstrips (yes they exist where I live). If you want to pull something out of your *** that an abandoned airstrip is going to have a random ******* trailer on it than go ahead but we have searched for hours finding the best spot possible for our car meets, and for us to play around at.
Could you explain how racing down an abandoned air strip is street racing?

If you've found a highway that it completely shut down, no longer used, no one on it EVER, then more power to you. Otherwise, you shouldn't race on it. I really don't care how careful you are, how long you've scouted your area, really doesn't matter.

You don't have to agree with me, it really doesn't matter either way, it's my opinion and there is nothing you can do or say to change it.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:58 AM
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I completely understand where you're coming from, but not everyone has the time to drive 50-60 miles to a track. I wouldn't spend an hour driving all the way to a track just for a couple runs and then drive an hour home.



I'm not talking about 'on the street'. I'm talking about in the damn boonies. Where all that is around you is cow pastures/phosphate mines, haha. That's what there is about 15 minutes south of me. There are areas where there aren't any residences or businesses and you won't see any for miles.
No, I understand where you're coming from.. What I just can't imagine is having a place that is completely desolate. I mean, I live in BFE and I don't know of one road anywhere around here that isn't regularly traveled by someone, especially somewhere with a straight patch of blacktop with no one on it for miles. I guess that's the difference between the TN hills and the flat land of Fla.. lol
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No, I understand where you're coming from.. What I just can't imagine is having a place that is completely desolate. I mean, I live in BFE and I don't know of one road anywhere around here that isn't regularly traveled by someone, especially somewhere with a straight patch of blacktop with no one on it for miles. I guess that's the difference between the TN hills and the flat land of Fla.. lol
You don't really live in BFE, then. When I say desolate, I mean desolate. We have these old phosphate mines that were heavily used back in the 70's and 80's. They couldn't put the mines near residential areas due to the risk of contaminating the soil and water reservoirs with chemicals, so they had to build a certain amount of miles out of areas populated by the public. In the process of building the mines, they bulldozed all the trees to create flat land for the drag lines to dig on. Since the booming mining days, they're now decrepit, old, and the industry has significantly declined. Therefore, there are all of these abandoned roads and areas where there is nothing around. Now, the areas that have been completely mined are just large pits full of water, and the land is just green grass and flat as hell. When you go out there, it is so quiet, you can hear a mouse **** on a cotton ball. It's total desolation.

Edit: I forgot to mention that even though it has been a good 15-20 years since these mines were operating, they still can't build homes or other business around them.

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have i street raced...yes

have i taken it to the track ....yes

I only street race at night far from city limits. Sometimes we just try to find a road that is dead and do it from there. The two closes drag strips are about 2 hrs away. So no way i will be driving up there everytime i wanna race sum1.

Yes ive had people wanting to race me on a busy streets and all i do is ignore them.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:55 AM
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I am not perfect and have Street raced a few times. I do have a track close but it is now closed (For the winter). I have not street raced since i first got the stang about a year ago.
Becuase i am not perfect then i am not gonna tell others what is right or wrong. I have my own issues to take care of. I think the thing that pisses people off is that when they say "take it to the track" it always comes off as they are better then you. Should you take it to the track and make it safer.... yeah prob should. Nobody is perfect and people even say oh i dont street race but i do open it up once in awhile...... well you can kill someone doing that as well.

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Old 12-11-2009, 10:18 AM
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I've street raced, and I will continue to do so if it's not on a busy street. Whenever I've street raced though, it's usually been from one light to the next. Never get up to that high of speed. If you're smart enough you can see ahead of you whether or not a car is coming or there is a car parked on the side of the road. It's not that hard. I have never been over a 100mph though on the street. Freeway, yes. I'm more worried about driving normally on the freeway going to work because of all the morons who can't drive then street racing. I've driven my car long enough to know what it's capable of and what I can do. If I was racing and a nice curve or turn was coming up that I knew the car couldn't handle, I would sure as **** slow down and not think twice about damn I lost the race. Everyone has their opinion and nobody is going to change anyone. But constantly telling someone to take it to the track gets annoying. They aren't going to listen anyways.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:25 PM
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I didn't read every post in this thread. But i'm going to go ahead and say use your better judgement. If you believe no one else is at risk but yourself, then go for it if you want.

For some reason no one ever tries to race me. Anyone worth racing anyway. They are all usually shitty hondas.
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