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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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Default i gave in, which supercharger set-up is best

seein as how i cant get 400hp with the 2v im going ahead and gettin a power adder, ill buy it but i wont enjoy it lol which is a good set up i was lookin at the 1 from procharger, i gota 98gt auto
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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98? PI top end swap first imho
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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Seeing that you have a non-pi motor and an auto it will take a lot of boost and a lot of engine mods to see 400hp. Now, you also have to decide if you are looking for 400 Wheel Horsepower or 400 Crank Horsepower. 400 crank is a much more realistic goal for you with your current setup.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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yea im doin a pi head and intake swap, 400 crank hp im guna try and do its alot more realistic then 400 hp all motor to the wheels lol
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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hell, 400whp isnt that far of a stretch. .

PI H/C/I swap, maybe get a little port job before they go in, do exhaust and some bolt ons, then an 11psi procharger kit 3 core IC and BOOM
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Teal_Beast
hell, 400whp isnt that far of a stretch. .

PI H/C/I swap, maybe get a little port job before they go in, do exhaust and some bolt ons, then an 11psi procharger kit 3 core IC and BOOM
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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My opinion for what it's worth, get the Procharger S/C, it is easiest to install, and you don't have to drill a hole in you oil pan. It's totally self contained, the oiling system that is. Just change it like you do you car engine oil. Every 3,000 miles, I hope that's when you change it anyway. Look them up, I'm sure you'll agree.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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procharger oil is changed every 6000 miles
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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I thought the Prochargers have bad seals and always leak?
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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no - actually there is no seal - along th bottom anyway - people claim the turbine seal leaks - but this happens no more so than any other supercharger - basically theyre are all just as good quality wise - but the power and step up ratios are different.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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I would still change it the same time I change my engine oil, that way you don't forget.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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some people had problems with them leaking. They found out alot of times if you run 3/4 of a bottle of procharger oil rather then a full bottle it pretty much stops the leaks and doesnt hurt the blower.

I would also recomend ati as there kits are pretty easy to install no pan tapping, And makes great power. its really up to you though.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Please do not base your purchase solely on the fact of punching a hole in your oil pan. It was the EASIEST part of the installation.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports
Please do not base your purchase solely on the fact of punching a hole in your oil pan. It was the EASIEST part of the installation.
Its not hard by any means just a pain in the *** to get it in square and nice. Like i said there all good blowers.I think adding the T-fitting to the oil pressure sender was more of a pain in the *** really. If i was him i would go by what i can get the best deal on if hes not set on what blower he wants.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
Its not hard by any means just a pain in the *** to get it in square and nice. Like i said there all good blowers.I think adding the T-fitting to the oil pressure sender was more of a pain in the *** really. If i was him i would go by what i can get the best deal on if hes not set on what blower he wants.
Spike, I posted the same time you did, I was not replying to your post. I was just making the point that most people get discouraged because they have to punch the pan.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Oh i know, i was just saying it isnt too bad at all. Its just a pain to get up in there and make sure its squared up nice.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
Oh i know, i was just saying it isnt too bad at all. Its just a pain to get up in there and make sure its squared up nice.
Actually, when I did mine, I went in on an angle with the punch, then, tapped it straight on.


 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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I've never heard of them leaking, guess you learn something new everyday here. The thing I liked about a self contained oiling system was that you didn't run the risk of getting some contaminated oil up in your expensive S/C, and Procharger was the only one I knew of. Is there more out there, and do they make more power? If so please share the info, many people here would like to know. I'll still go with a self contained oiling system though, to old to change my thinking on that.
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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mcm on the v6's like teals when i did his vortec with him his has to be tapped on the side, it was such a pain in the *** to get in there and do it sucked.

But yours looks nice and clean, thats what i like to see.
 
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
mcm on the v6's like teals when i did his vortec with him his has to be tapped on the side, it was such a pain in the *** to get in there and do it sucked.

But yours looks nice and clean, thats what i like to see.
Thanks, I took my time with it.
 
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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damn that's purdy.

I don't like procharger... not enough oil volume to cool and lubricate such a precision item. Same thing with powerdyne... no likey belts where gears should be.

Paxton or Vortech, premium product at a modest price. Otherwise, roots type.
 
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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If you have the money get the Novi.
 
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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why the novi? what advantage does it have?
 
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Yeah, Id go with a Paxton. Its just an all around good blower. http://modularpowerhouse.com/product...ef876142e557ad
 
Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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the novi has a higher output potential -however i dont liek how paxton says not to push it close to that potential - i dont know why - the 2 best blowers for the money are the d-1sc and novi 2000 - the d-1 is more race proven ( or at least sought after) so D-1 is better in my opinion - it makes a little more boost (not much) but it has a better step up ratio - the D-1sc will make you built car faster at the track than the Novi- but if you dont care about 1/10's the novi is about 1000 cheaper in many cases - sometimes 500.
 
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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A Novi-2000 will support upto 1000 hp. So, if you contiunue to build the motor, you can keep the blower w/o having to upgrade.
 
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