What nitrous system should I go with?
#31
thanks for the help. I don't think I'm gonna get the wideband...because as helpful as they are...its like 450 for the wide band plus like 200 for the install...thats a crap load of money for one guage
I have one more question
with a fuel pressure guage should I get the one that goes from 0-30 or 0-100?
I have one more question
with a fuel pressure guage should I get the one that goes from 0-30 or 0-100?
#32
Originally Posted by Badfish
thanks for the help. I don't think I'm gonna get the wideband...because as helpful as they are...its like 450 for the wide band plus like 200 for the install...thats a crap load of money for one guage
I have one more question
with a fuel pressure guage should I get the one that goes from 0-30 or 0-100?
I have one more question
with a fuel pressure guage should I get the one that goes from 0-30 or 0-100?
#33
every nitrous bottle has blow caps on them. If the pressure is to high it vents out the bottle. A blow down tube makes the nitrous vent to outside the car. The bottle wont exploxed if you dont have a vent tube.
#36
Originally Posted by Badfish
i though the NX kit only came with 100 and 150 jets..nothing inbetween
The NX 4.6 Plate Kit comes with 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, and 300 jets
but you can set yours up like mine where you can run any shot you want
#37
Hate to do this but...(hijack warning!!!!)
I ordered my NX mainline kit last night and got my UPS tracking number a few hours ago. $363 brand new shipped:clap:
Hijack over
Go NX man they have a great rep for obvious reasons. That's not to say Compucar or Zex or a lot of other companies aren't good but NX seems to be at the front of the pack. Plus power ratings at the wheels, that's where it counts
I ordered my NX mainline kit last night and got my UPS tracking number a few hours ago. $363 brand new shipped:clap:
Hijack over
Go NX man they have a great rep for obvious reasons. That's not to say Compucar or Zex or a lot of other companies aren't good but NX seems to be at the front of the pack. Plus power ratings at the wheels, that's where it counts
#40
Originally Posted by Silver02GT
I run the Zex wet kit and I love it. The gains would probably be bigger with an NX kit but Zex is a little safer and real easy to install.
That is obviously very debateable. At first maybe but after adding the same safety features the zex kit has then they are basicly the same kit but with different power out puts. Zex kits are really nice two brothers in my club run them and they are awesome kits no doubt.
#41
Jon, post up in CS too. RichV there knows ALOT about nitrous and different setups. I can't offer any advise other than to get with him. You need to take your car to the track before you get it done so you can see what kind of gains you get after......we are racing tomorrow at Bandi.
#42
So, what have we learned? Jon, you have lots of options....what is good for one guy, might not be good for another. Also, nitrous can be cheap and it can be not so cheap. Some of you guys thought I was nuts when I mentioned that nitrous can run over $2k, but it sure can. Throw in a wide-band and a professional install and hell, you are at $3k. Do you need all this stuff to have a fun, safe setup? Not really. But, if you are an addicted modder, you will most likely add crap as you go and it all adds up.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
#43
Originally Posted by steve-o
Jon, post up in CS too. RichV there knows ALOT about nitrous and different setups. I can't offer any advise other than to get with him. You need to take your car to the track before you get it done so you can see what kind of gains you get after......we are racing tomorrow at Bandi.
#44
Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
So, what have we learned? Jon, you have lots of options....what is good for one guy, might not be good for another. Also, nitrous can be cheap and it can be not so cheap. Some of you guys thought I was nuts when I mentioned that nitrous can run over $2k, but it sure can. Throw in a wide-band and a professional install and hell, you are at $3k. Do you need all this stuff to have a fun, safe setup? Not really. But, if you are an addicted modder, you will most likely add crap as you go and it all adds up.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
haha yeah i've thought about that too..but for now, it suits my needs perfectly...maybe in a couple years ill go with a single turbo and a built engine
#46
Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
So, what have we learned? Jon, you have lots of options....what is good for one guy, might not be good for another. Also, nitrous can be cheap and it can be not so cheap. Some of you guys thought I was nuts when I mentioned that nitrous can run over $2k, but it sure can. Throw in a wide-band and a professional install and hell, you are at $3k. Do you need all this stuff to have a fun, safe setup? Not really. But, if you are an addicted modder, you will most likely add crap as you go and it all adds up.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
Way to make the guy feel like crap for wanting nitrous........Just a little while back you were on the bottle and you said it was great. Im sure he has explored the option of a blower but he has decided to go with the n20. As long as you have the bottle filled at the most once a week, youll have the power all the time. Forget all the "what if I dont have the right tune..." kinda stuff. Only reason youd be caught without the tune is if you are using a handheld. But, whatever just run the thing N/A like I do! Thats why n20 is so great, you can save stress on the motor....
n20 is a blast when its set up with a window switch and you know its running right. Progressive is great also. I love it and I plan on running a progressive 200 shot next when I can get a stronger block.
#47
I was not really trying to make him feel bad...
Here, if it makes you feel better, here is something you can do with nitrous that you cant do with a s/c.....you can change how much power you want to add whenever you want. With a s/c, you have to change a pulley and then alter your tune. With nitrous it is a lot more simple.
Also, if you tune is good, I personally believe that nitrous is potentially a lot safer on the motor. Why? Because I believe that when you run compression, you are adding stress on the up and down stroke. Also, nitrous is a lot more efficient. Remember, with a blower you have to drive the blower right? So, if you have a blower and are making 380 rwhp, you prolly have to make something like 470 at the flywheel.
This is why some people like Dustin are able to run nitrous as long as they have w/o a problem. But, run lean, and it is all over pretty soon.
I had fun with nitrous. Personally, I would probably not use it again unless I have a built motor, but I am only skiddish after dumping large coin into my car.
Jon, if you want nitrous, go for it! Enjoy it and have fun. It is alot easier to install and a lot easier to remove then a blower or turbo too.
Here, if it makes you feel better, here is something you can do with nitrous that you cant do with a s/c.....you can change how much power you want to add whenever you want. With a s/c, you have to change a pulley and then alter your tune. With nitrous it is a lot more simple.
Also, if you tune is good, I personally believe that nitrous is potentially a lot safer on the motor. Why? Because I believe that when you run compression, you are adding stress on the up and down stroke. Also, nitrous is a lot more efficient. Remember, with a blower you have to drive the blower right? So, if you have a blower and are making 380 rwhp, you prolly have to make something like 470 at the flywheel.
This is why some people like Dustin are able to run nitrous as long as they have w/o a problem. But, run lean, and it is all over pretty soon.
I had fun with nitrous. Personally, I would probably not use it again unless I have a built motor, but I am only skiddish after dumping large coin into my car.
Jon, if you want nitrous, go for it! Enjoy it and have fun. It is alot easier to install and a lot easier to remove then a blower or turbo too.
#48
Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
So, what have we learned? Jon, you have lots of options....what is good for one guy, might not be good for another. Also, nitrous can be cheap and it can be not so cheap. Some of you guys thought I was nuts when I mentioned that nitrous can run over $2k, but it sure can. Throw in a wide-band and a professional install and hell, you are at $3k. Do you need all this stuff to have a fun, safe setup? Not really. But, if you are an addicted modder, you will most likely add crap as you go and it all adds up.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
Does the modding ever end? Of course not.
There are two, major hurdles/problems with nitrous....even assuming that you have the best set up in the world:
1 - You need to have your bottle filled and the system activated in order to use it.
2 - It is impossible to setup your car to run optimally on the juice and yet optimally n/a. When you change your plugs for example and gap them tighter, this is not the best option when running n/a. Also, it might make gear selction tough. 4.10's for n/a and a lesser gear whould be better for the juice. A larger TB might be best for juice, but perhaps not the best option n/a. How about cam selection? Do you go with blower cams or n/a cams? See the point?
Nitrous is a lot of fun. It is partially fun because it is a technical challenge. You get to tweak and screw with it...this is fun for some.
But, I guarentee that the first time you spray, you will be addicted....not to the juice, but to the power. And, if you can live with the fact that the power is not always there, then nitrous might be a good fit for you. If you are sitting at a light next to a WRX and are like "dam....I don't have a bottle and I have the wrong tune installed" and that bothers you, then you might want a different PA.
#50
Originally Posted by Badfish
but i'll always have it on and open
haha yeah i've thought about that too..but for now, it suits my needs perfectly...maybe in a couple years ill go with a single turbo and a built engine
haha yeah i've thought about that too..but for now, it suits my needs perfectly...maybe in a couple years ill go with a single turbo and a built engine
Don't do that. You'll end up harming the solenoids and the seals if you leave the bottle open and not using it for prolonged periods of time. Get a remote bottle opener if you must street race on the juice.
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