Hey all, I'm looking to get one of these and I know novi2000 has better potential for max hp when turning up the boost. But thats a long way down the road(after new tranny, forged internals, new rear end, etc) so I'm just going to keep the car @ 8 psi(likely not intercooled at first, but I may get it later). Can anyone tell me if the 8 psi, non-intercooled versions of these superchargers yield similar results, or if the $500 extra for the novi2000(price from mph) is worth it? I dont care which s/c will max out the highest, I just wanna know if the novi is worth the extra money for 8 psi, considering both s/c's have all the same parts(same fuel pumps, same, injectors, same MAF, same tune, etc)

 

You didn't specify which Vortech compressor you're looking at. A vortech T trim will produce more power at 8psi than a n2k, but a SQ-trim vortech will be right around the same. Save the 500 bucks and get a Vortech. They're top notch and a great company to deal with.

 

Sorry, the 2 versions at mph are s-trim and sq. What would I likely hit being non-intercooled with either of those vortechs?

 

350-370 sounds about right for non intercooled

 

That's what I would guess with a good tune.

 

Sounds good. The mph kit comes w/ everything needed to run safely. But is there anything else that you'd recommend I get with the s/c like possibly new rear end or something?

 

From what I understand, the Novi 2000 doesnt work as hard to make the same hp/boost. The SQ may however "spool" up faster due to its smaller size.

 

other than an install kit (fuel system parts and tuning basically), I'd pop for a centerforce dual friction or any good stage 2 clutch. Stock clutches are less than ideal for power adders. I'd also invest in a set of cobra brakes (I'd do the brakes FIRST) and a 3 row aluminum radiator to bleed off all that speed and extra heat. higher flowing exhaust headers like shorties will be a benefit as well.

Basically, get a new clutch and some cobra brakes. Everything you upgrade after that will only be better because you have a blower in place.

 

The novi is the route to go for centri. it will get you to were you want and farther. It's kinda like having the option of upgrading a P-1 when you first buy it then later down the road you get the supporting mods done to net higher numbers and you kick yourself in the **** for not getting the D-1 upgrade. My .02

 

The vortech is gonna spool up slightly faster than the novi at a reasonable boost (8 psi). Example at maybe 3,500 RPM the vortech might be at 5.5 PSI and the novi 5PSI. This is do to the larger size of the Novi. Procharger is similar to the Vortech and speed of spooling.

 

Get the Novi, Its a one time buy unlike the vortech where you have to pay to upgrade to a new blower for more boost...

 

Both are good blowers, but I would spend the extra money and get an I/C Novi for reasons already stated.

When it comes to blowers, one thing that everyone forgets is that boost equals stress on the motor. The more efficient the blower and the more efficient your intake and exhaust mods, the more hp you will make at the tires with the same level of boost. With my setup, I make 375 rwhp at about 9 psi. If my a/f were to stay the same and I were to add headers and a set of blower cams, I would make perhaps 400 - 410 at 9 psi.

To ensure engine longevity, you need to minimize not hp but boost. Hit a target boost number and then live with whatever hp you are making.

 

ditto....

 

vortech and paxton are the same company. cant go wrong with either. procharger has a steeper step up ratio(4:10) so you could see boost sooner. also procharger tends to make more tq. than vortech or paxton. thats the reason i went with a procharger.

 

ha, my stock clutch lasted 2 weeks on the blower.... got a spec stage 2 in there now. I've got a stock radiator and my car stays nice and cool. the cooling system in the new edge stangs does a great job

 

You will be happier with a novi in my eyes. I have 1 and its sweet. 1 blower is equal from an s trim to a y trim.

 

If the Novi kit IS intercooled at just $500 more then I would go with that. If its non-intercooled then I would go with the vortech. Youll end up probably wanting/needing an intercooler in the future. Vortechs are great, I love mine. Only problem is that the non-intercooled version will raise the intake temps ALOT. Mine stays around 170-190 degrees on the dyno. It also just made 340whp but I was having some issues with the belt drive and restrictions. Its going back for a retune this week hopefully and it should make around 360whp or more.