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Old 04-20-2006 | 07:15 PM
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I don't have the money now, in a couple years I may consider supercharging my 04 Mach 1. I've been looking at "kits" just to see about how much it would cost, but it's frustrating that there is never very much information about what's included. So would something like this be good?

http://www.speedworx.com/Vortech-Sup...h-I-p-283.html

$5500, does that include everything or are there other things needed, and does it come pre-tuned or do you have to dyno tune it, etc. Anything that would be too hard to install myself?
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 07:18 PM
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Looks like it's more expensive than other places I've seen. When I get some money, Im going to get an MPH Vortech Mongoose kit with a T-trim and a paxton A/A intercooler. It comes with everything you need, plus Tim's tune.
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by swervo
Looks like it's more expensive than other places I've seen. When I get some money, Im going to get an MPH Vortech Mongoose kit with a T-trim and a paxton A/A intercooler. It comes with everything you need, plus Tim's tune.
More details?
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 08:25 PM
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If I had a Mach I, I think I would just go with a stock Cobra blower off of an 03 - 04. Guys pull these off all the time to get KB's and you can't use them on a GT, but they will fit on a Mach I. I have seen them 4 sale for $700. Then you need all the other items such as injecotors, MAF, and fuel pump, but I would bet for $1500 you could be set.

We should try to find someone that has done this.
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
If I had a Mach I, I think I would just go with a stock Cobra blower off of an 03 - 04. Guys pull these off all the time to get KB's and you can't use them on a GT, but they will fit on a Mach I. I have seen them 4 sale for $700. Then you need all the other items such as injecotors, MAF, and fuel pump, but I would bet for $1500 you could be set.

We should try to find someone that has done this.
wow you can do this???? man that really makes me want to get a Mach 1 again now!:wallbash:
look at this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWDVW
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 08:59 PM
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wow you can do this???? man that really makes me want to get a Mach 1 again now!:wallbash:
look at this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWDVW
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So who wants to buy that for me and hold on to it until I get the money? :censored:

This is gay... I would buy that cuz it's fricken cheap but my dad won't let me spend any money on mods until it's paid off (which is understandable) but only $600 for a pretty much new supercharger is a killing!
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by swervo
Looks like it's more expensive than other places I've seen. When I get some money, Im going to get an MPH Vortech Mongoose kit with a T-trim and a paxton A/A intercooler. It comes with everything you need, plus Tim's tune.
agree MPH is the way to go...but get the KB kit for the mach, shaker + KB =Sweet!!
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kcast
shaker + KB =Sweet!!
yeah but supercharger plus any mach 1 is sweet, that 03 cobra supercharger would be frickin awesome, KB would be the ultimate though
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:07 PM
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oh and the 03/04 cobra eaton swap on the mach is not that easy...look it up
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:14 PM
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I would just order a mongoose kit from MPH. I really don't think anyone who has got a kit and tune from him regret it all. Worth it to me. Good luck if you don't listen to sound advice.
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kcast
oh and the 03/04 cobra eaton swap on the mach is not that easy...look it up
It's not that hard either. I would not try it with my own hands, but I checked with the guys at Kauffmans, and it can be done.
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:20 PM
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did you add it up, wiring, blower, intake, etc??? it will probably cost around 3k....thats bout the cost of a mongoose kit...
 
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Old 04-20-2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by customstang

but my dad won't let me spend any money on mods until it's paid off (which is understandable) but only $600 for a pretty much new supercharger is a killing!

dude, why are you even lookin at this stuff if its not for a couple of years that u can get it???
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 12:48 AM
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this is a quote for a full vortech, non-intercooled mongoose kit for a mach 1
>>$4850 plus $750 to install,$65 shop supplies ,tax and shipping.<<
as quoted by tim(owner of modular powerhouse)
http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/for...33&postcount=4

just remember that tim has yet to lose a motor with his tune(mongoose kit gets its name from the tune)
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dsg_gt2004
this is a quote for a full vortech, non-intercooled mongoose kit for a mach 1
>>$4850 plus $750 to install,$65 shop supplies ,tax and shipping.<<
as quoted by tim(owner of modular powerhouse)
http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/for...33&postcount=4

just remember that tim has yet to lose a motor with his tune(mongoose kit gets its name from the tune)
How does that work if you dont live by MPH??? do you send your car there??
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
How does that work if you dont live by MPH??? do you send your car there??
yeh, you can send it there....but im sure you have to pay extra for that...
it can be installed anywhere..when it gets down to the tune, you could take it anywhere and have it dynoed and then send the dyno sheet to tim to see if anything needs tweaking(if so, he can just email you the new tune and you add if to your tuner, which you then use to reflash your computer)
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 05:26 AM
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I check with Dave later this week, but I bet you get get a Cobra blower done for less then $2,000.
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 10:56 AM
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I dought it!
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
dude, why are you even lookin at this stuff if its not for a couple of years that u can get it???
dude, why do you look at ****, when you'll never get it?
 
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Old 04-21-2006 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by customstang
dude, why do you look at ****, when you'll never get it?
LOL, good come back.
 
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Old 04-22-2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
yeah but supercharger plus any mach 1 is sweet, that 03 cobra supercharger would be frickin awesome, KB would be the ultimate though
but get the 2.2 for future growth.
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 12:57 PM
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My brother recently supercharged his GT, cost him ~5500. He, of course, had to get a kenne bell. He got the 1.7L one. At the public school there is a 99/00 black GT and he recently supercharged his car with a vortech supercharger. He doesnt know that my brother has a 1.7L or how much PSI he is running, and i dont know how much PSI he (the black GT) is running, but he apparently thinks that his is plain old better. My understanding of the situation is that a twin screw is much better than a centrifugal style... am I wrong?
EDIT: No, i dont know why my brother doesnt peruse these forums, lol, his car is awesome =X
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
How does that work if you dont live by MPH??? do you send your car there??
You don't have to. They have got their tune so reliable that you order it, they send you everything, you install it, you are happy. No need for it to ever see a dyno unless you want to. These Vortech kits put out 360 RWHP all day long on mail order tunes.
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports
You don't have to. They have got their tune so reliable that you order it, they send you everything, you install it, you are happy. No need for it to ever see a dyno unless you want to. These Vortech kits put out 360 RWHP all day long on mail order tunes.
I personally would have it dynoed to check the air/fuel ratio, just to be sure.
 
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Old 04-26-2006 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RFoy80
I personally would have it dynoed to check the air/fuel ratio, just to be sure.
So you are saying you doubt the great one? :shifty:
 
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Old 04-27-2006 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports
So you are saying you doubt the great one? :shifty:
absolutely not. But with the kind of luck I have. Something would go wrong and boom
 
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Old 04-27-2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostalker
My brother recently supercharged his GT, cost him ~5500. He, of course, had to get a kenne bell. He got the 1.7L one. At the public school there is a 99/00 black GT and he recently supercharged his car with a vortech supercharger. He doesnt know that my brother has a 1.7L or how much PSI he is running, and i dont know how much PSI he (the black GT) is running, but he apparently thinks that his is plain old better. My understanding of the situation is that a twin screw is much better than a centrifugal style... am I wrong?
EDIT: No, i dont know why my brother doesnt peruse these forums, lol, his car is awesome =X
roots type blowers are better for the street, the centris are good for the track...
 
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