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Old 09-04-2008, 01:15 PM
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I don't think bringing back the ONLY President to be impeached while in office is a great idea.
 
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im all in for McCain..
 
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in recent history dems usually control the house and the senate

people did not like the old bush cause he could do very little cause the dem congress didn't let him do anything that they didn't want. alot of dems say that clinton was a great president.... but look at congress you didn't like clinton you liked the republican congress
 
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Originally Posted by King
I don't think bringing back the ONLY President to be impeached while in office is a great idea.
Andrew Johnson?
 
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden, and McCain. But shes also a hypocrit for what is going on in her own family. She let her daughter make her own choice, but wants a government that decides for her? What a joke.

I don't know what your watching, but last night, all i saw was an attack squad. They lied about many things, and attacked "the little guys" for our role in the Obama campaign. They insulted the very idea that ordinary people have a role to play in our political process.

If you want specifics, Guiliani and Palin both mocked Obama's experience as a community organizer. Since when is helping out his community a bad thing? Community organizing is the foundation of the civil rights movement, the women's suffrage movement, labor rights, and the 40-hour workweek.

McCain hasn't offered one single idea, to fix our suffering middle class and fix our economy.

If America wants another term of Bush, so be it. You'll regret electing McCain, just like many regret electing Bush.
Let's set the record straight...I think you are listening to the wrong people.

First of all, the fact that Gov Palin's daughter is pregnant, does not make her a hippocrit in ANYWAY. Her daughter's action are her daughter's actions, not her mothers. That is the funamental difference between being a liberal and being a conservative. Liberal's blame others.

IF, Gov Palin had taken her daughter to get an abortion, then she would be a hippocrit. Saying that she is a hippocrit because her daughter is pregnant means virtually nothing in regards to politics. Besides, has anyone considered that the baby was wanted? Why does that not get considered? Instead what you have is a pro-life wokman who kept a baby with downsyndrome and has a young daughter, who is keeping a baby and getting married. What part of this do you not get?

Conservatives don't believe that people are perfect, but they do believe that believe should strive to do the right thing. A liberal minded girl would get knocked-up, push the father out of her life, and then stand around waiting for a handout from the government.

Palin NEVER attacked the little guy....she attacked Obama and his background (which is fair game). She NEVER attacked community organizers like the liberal media want you to believe, she simply made the point that being a community organizer does not mean that you are qualified to be president. Have you forgotten the mantra of the democratic party about McCain when they claimed that being a POW for 6 years does not mean that he is qualified to be president? Let's use YOUR logic then....I guess the Democrats then attacked EVERY POW that ever existed. See.....it does not work like that.

Take a look at the Republican ticket. Who has done more McCain or Obama to suffer and sacrifice for his country? Even if you take away McCain's POW time. take a look at McCain's family and his adopted children from Bangledesh. Or, how about Cindy? She has done more volunteer work and community service then 99% of the population. Don't ever think that Palin/McCain were attacking volunteerism or community service....no way...that is all that they are about. They were attacking, politically, Obama.

And another thing....how is the middle class suffering? Are you kidding me? This country's poor live better then most of the world and our middle-class live better then most rich in other countries. I just had a grad student to my home tonight from China.....you should talk to him.

80% of our current economic woes are because of oil prices! Oil problems have driven nearly every wrong with the economy. Oil went up, that drove the stock-market down, which then raised the short-term interest rates. That forced people out of their homes who were greedy and got loans they should not have gotten. Then, employers felt the pinch due to the increase in raw materials. My company has experienced a $100 million increase in raw materials this year because of oil. As a result, we have not had lay-offs, but pay raises and hiring opportunities have stopped. We have also cut back on travel and many other perks and have had to back-off on investing in projects.....all this is money NOT going back into the economy BUT, instead going over seas. That's right, we are sending $100M over seas this year that we did not send last year.....$100M that is NOT getting re-invested back into our economy because of oil prices.

Why not? Because 40 years of a liberal controlled congress has resulted in POOR energy policy. Instead, we give HUGE tax breaks to oil companies. WHY? Because this is how we pay them to explore, BUT not allow them to drill. WTF!

Oil prices....rapid oil price increases have resulted in an over-correction which has impacted nearly everything else. Want to fix the economy.....we need to create more domestic energy which will lower oil prices. Oil prices will quickly drop to below $70 a barrell if McCain and Palin get in office. Why? Because $70 is a magic number....this is the number where oil exploration becomes worth it in the harder to reach places in North America and drill they will.

Lastly, McCain is NO Bush. If you can't see that, then I simply don't know what else to say. Had he chosen Rice as a running mate....you could make that point. McCain is just as far from Bush as Obama.
 
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeda97
Andrew Johnson?
While in office. He just wasn't removed because his term was about up anyway.
 
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Palin told her daughter that it was her choice whether to keep the baby or not, but Palin wants a government that doesn't give her the choice.

I never said she was a hypocrit for having a pregnant daughter. Thats ridiculous.
 
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How the F do you know what Palin told her daughter? Were you there? Did Palin report this? No. No one knows what they discussed or the context of the conversation. Besides, I am a parent. I tell my kids all the time that they have their own choice. It is far more effective that a child do the right thing on their own, rather then have a gun to their heads. Who know, perhaps Palin was just giving her daughter the option to make the decision on her own. What would be wrong with that? She decided to KEEP the kid.

Keep in mind the Democratic party is supposed to stand up for the little guy, but they refuse to stand up for the littliest guy of all.
 
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:13 PM
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It was on CNN and Fox News a couple days ago. If I remember correctly, she did talk about it. But that's if I remember correctly which means, screw everything I just said it's probably wrong.
 
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I won't attack Gov Palin for her daughter being pregnant, that is something that is out of her control. None of us know the situation so it's unfair to comment. I know where she stands on abortion, but I'd like to know where she stands on birth control and other protective measures.....I thought I heard that she was an abstinence only person and to me that just seems freaking WAY out of touch these days. Yes, abstinence should be preached to kids, but you also need to educate them on their options if they chose to be sexually active.

Can you guys please spare me on the experience level of Gov Palin. She might have executive experience, but it's freaking in ALASKA....a population of 660,000 and a budget that is a freaking drop in the bucket. The County I work for has double the population of Alaska and about the same budget. The mayor of Los Angeles, San Jose, Chicago, NY and a ton of other large cities have more experience than she does.

I'm not criticizing Palin, and I'm not comparing Palin vs Obama in the experience department. I think she is a young rising star within the Rep party and has the ability to do a good job, but please stop trying to convince people she has the experience because she doesn't.
 

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Old 09-05-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jjtgiants
Abama
LOL
 
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Originally Posted by King
LOL
oooops. Fixed.
 
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'bama. I'm voting.
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:42 PM
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I'm so torn on who to vote for, I'm considering selling my vote to someone with a decisive opinion on ebay. You give me $25, and I vote for who you want me to.
 
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^^^^na do it for like 50 bucks man
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:15 PM
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Maybe I'll list it as no reserve starting at $25 then have a buy it now option of $50...hmm, seems like a deal to me.
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:17 PM
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**** a vote is worth sum money man, one vote will change the future


and were in the hell is everyone, lol
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:26 PM
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Getting drunk. It's a Friday night, or I guess a Saturday morning now.
 
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hey im doing the same and playing rockband, lol, drinking budlight lime, mmm mm good
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:35 PM
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Boo, I'm from Coors country.
 
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awwww FAIL!!!!!!!! lol, jk

but hey if its the only thing ill drink it

but if budlight or budwiser is there then ill choose ummmmmmmm, budlight budwiser i kind of got tired of already
 
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:41 PM
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I'll drink anything other than that Fat-Tire crap. But anyway, this conversation is getting too homo for me (too many smilies). I like me some tiddies!
 
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lol
 

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damn easy choice for me. i own guns. i will continue to own guns. i will not surrender my guns.
I WILL VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!
 
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:59 PM
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Aint no one gunna make you surrender your guns. Its more like taking them out of criminal hands.
 
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BILL
 
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taking out of criminal hands hahahahahah are you serious and misguided or just naive? Government cannot affect the criminal element in any great way because criminals work outside the law. Government passing gun laws to "keep guns out of criminals hands" creates a class of criminal that didn't used to exist out of law abiding citizenry who pose a threat to nobody. They see a new law conspire to make them a criminal and then do their level best to obey it so they're not cuffed and stuffed. The actual criminal element DOES NOT FOLLOW LAWS ESPECIALLY GUN LAWS. To think that gun laws affect criminals in the slightest is not only naive but kinda retarded and short sighted.
 
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
taking out of criminal hands hahahahahah are you serious and misguided or just naive? Government cannot affect the criminal element in any great way because criminals work outside the law. Government passing gun laws to "keep guns out of criminals hands" creates a class of criminal that didn't used to exist out of law abiding citizenry who pose a threat to nobody. They see a new law conspire to make them a criminal and then do their level best to obey it so they're not cuffed and stuffed. The actual criminal element DOES NOT FOLLOW LAWS ESPECIALLY GUN LAWS. To think that gun laws affect criminals in the slightest is not only naive but kinda retarded and short sighted.
It was more like a joke towards 98svt referring to him as a criminal.


Beside, if your saying its not possible to make guns less accessible to criminals then thats naive. It is incredibly easy to get your hands on a gun. I remember watching something where you could open a new checking account somewhere in Texas and receive a free rifle.

We are obviously doing something wrong when ordinary citizens have an AK-47 sitting at home. Gun laws will never fix this problem but some structure will certainly help.
 
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:53 PM
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No it's not possible to make guns less accessible to criminals you can't be that blind. I've made guns in my garage with only the most basic of tools (a hammer and a pipe as I recall). It's retarded to think that any level of inaccessibility you foist on me and Jon Q. Rulefollower will even graze the criminal element.. how dense can you be. Criminality implies that simplicity and legitimacy are not possible/desired. So, alternate means are employed. Can't get em here...import them from Mexico. Everything's legal in mexico, it's the American way.

I have an ak47 (semi auto), and an ar15 and an m1 carbine and a Ljüngman and a lot of scary looking guns which are derived from military weapons... all of them together haven't killed as many people as Ted Kennedy's car (that being 1). I'm the law abiding type... so you REALLY REALLY WANT me to have them... I'll be the one you run to for protection from the bad man with the <insert scary looking weapon here>.

By the way... I can kill you with one shot from OVER a mile away with several of my less scary (but more odd in some cases) looking guns. You'd be really unlucky to die even if shot 5 times with an AK-47. So are you going to take away my antelope rifle or my groundhog rifles next? How about my .50 cal precision long range rifle? Does that scare you? It can bring down an aircraft with a single shot though it never will because I use it for blowing up propane tanks and elk; though not normally at the same time, but it's too powerful for lil' ol' me to own.

You sir are an elitist if you think only a select few should be able to own a tool. As well, I fear you may be but I have no proof (only a strong suspicion and a sincere hope to the contrary) a yellow belly lily liver tenderfoot wuss. You're appearing to me to be just ****** terrified that you may have to risk living your own damned life and staying out of my dinner-gitter safe. You sir are a hoplophobe. You should know that phobias are by their nature totally irrational.
 


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