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#61
05-22-2006 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
LOL. If thats the case and god doesent want me in, then **** him.
LMAO!
LMAO!
Ok thats a bit harsh, but seriously, you basically just scolded everyone who is not a devout christian and told them they were going to hell.
lol.
#62
05-22-2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
Ok thats a bit harsh, but seriously, you basically just scolded everyone who is not a devout christian and told them they were going to hell.
lol.
lol.
ha ha ha....feeling like you just insulted someone that could just snap his fingers and make you go away! ha ha ha.....yeah, I thought about that to after I replied! ha ha
#63
05-22-2006 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jjtgiants
ha ha ha....feeling like you just insulted someone that could just snap his fingers and make you go away! ha ha ha.....yeah, I thought about that to after I replied! ha ha
#64
05-22-2006 | 03:09 PM
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omg you guys aren't thinking clearly. But it's okay, it's expected for non-christians to think like non-christians. It's like parents who have a rebellious kid who is old enough to be kicked out. Yes, they love the kid dearly, but if the kid doesn't wanna go by the rules of the household, they get kicked out, end of story. Just bc the kid is good half the time, doesn't give him the right to disobey the other half.
But then again, it's really hard to humanize God and give analogies when they won't fit perfectly. If you have any concept of God and sin, you'll know that it's the only thing that He hates. If you realize that, you'll see how big of a deal it is. The fact that I flipped a guy off doesn't make me a hypocrite bc guess what...I'M NOT PERFECT. not even close. But I know the way to heaven, sure I stumble, but I correct my ways(sure as heck aint flippin anyone else off).
Besides, a middle finger is merely a symbol for a verbal obscenity, which is something that didn't even exist back in biblical times. All cursing does is hurts a christian's witness to non-christians, it doesn't make God love you any less. So nobody can pin me with "well you flipped that guy off" and call me a hypocrite. I'd be a hypocrite if I said "You shoudlnt flip people off" and THEN I went and did it. All that being a christian and flippin ppl off does is hurts ppls' perspective of me. Doesn't affect my relationship or future with God
But then again, it's really hard to humanize God and give analogies when they won't fit perfectly. If you have any concept of God and sin, you'll know that it's the only thing that He hates. If you realize that, you'll see how big of a deal it is. The fact that I flipped a guy off doesn't make me a hypocrite bc guess what...I'M NOT PERFECT. not even close. But I know the way to heaven, sure I stumble, but I correct my ways(sure as heck aint flippin anyone else off).
Besides, a middle finger is merely a symbol for a verbal obscenity, which is something that didn't even exist back in biblical times. All cursing does is hurts a christian's witness to non-christians, it doesn't make God love you any less. So nobody can pin me with "well you flipped that guy off" and call me a hypocrite. I'd be a hypocrite if I said "You shoudlnt flip people off" and THEN I went and did it. All that being a christian and flippin ppl off does is hurts ppls' perspective of me. Doesn't affect my relationship or future with God
#67
05-22-2006 | 05:18 PM
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Getting to heaven has nothing to do with being a good person, you cannot get to heaven by works but only by faith, not work+faith or faith+ work only Faith. Being a good person is a bi- product.
on a side note, Just because I am a christian or Danny is doesn't mean we are perfect, everyne knows how hard it is to sometimes do the right thing in life. This is part of the reason i think some of the NON- christians are for lack of a better word affraid of the christian religion because you see us contridicting oursleves all the time. with is true to a certain extent, but remember no one is perfect
on a side note, Just because I am a christian or Danny is doesn't mean we are perfect, everyne knows how hard it is to sometimes do the right thing in life. This is part of the reason i think some of the NON- christians are for lack of a better word affraid of the christian religion because you see us contridicting oursleves all the time. with is true to a certain extent, but remember no one is perfect
#70
05-22-2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
This is part of the reason i think some of the NON- christians are for lack of a better word affraid of the christian religion because you see us contridicting oursleves all the time. with is true to a certain extent, but remember no one is perfect
lol.......
#71
05-22-2006 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
what are the rules of society?
rofl!!!!!!!!
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05-22-2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
LOL, i always thought people were afraid of christians because in the past they went on thier crusades and killed millions of people who wouldnt convert, believeing they were evil and witches and stuff.
lol.......
lol.......
#73
05-22-2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The2000GT
lol....I have never heard of anything of the sort.....What are you talking about?
The jewish dont believe he was the son of god, they dont believe that the christ was born. he is still on his way.
the christians and catholics have been worshiping the father, the son and the holy ghost. The son being Jesus, and praying to jesus, and all that. Accepting jesus as thier "LORD" and savior. lol
So, if the jewish are right, and Jesus was NOT the son of god, and just a prophet, then everyone is ****ed because god in the bible is a pretty staunchy bastard about worshiping false idols and figures. If the jewish were right, every christian and catholic have been worshiping a false god, because christians revere christ as much as god and pray to christ as well as god and put him right there with god.
Now, imagine you were praying to "the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and some ******* named steve" And lest say Steve is just some dude that everyone is praying to but has no relation to god. I think the god would take a pretty dim view of people putting steve there with him, and be pissed and damn the entire steve worshiping community.
On the other side of the coin, if the jewish are wrong and christ WAS the son of god, then they are all going to hell. They never take communion or get baptized, and without baptism the origional sin never gets washed away, so they are ****ed from the get go as well. They never accepted jesus christ as thier lord and savior.
LOL!!!!!!
Damned if ya do, damned if ya dont!
I dunno, maybe im wrong, but it seems everyone worships the same basic idea though different methods with different prspectives on it. But for the mopst part it is all the same. Dont lie, Dont cheat, Dont Steal, Dont kill. Treat people well and pull your own weight. And if you dont believe this specific religion, yer going to hell.
LOL.
I dont believe that personally. I dont think all the jews are gonna burn in hell any more than all the christians, or buddists, or catholics, or mormons are gonna burn in hell.
Tell ya what, Heaven must have one very very primere and select list as to who the bouncers let in, cause lets face it, at least 5 billion people out of the 6 billion are doomed to go to hell. And i dont even think there IS a religion that boasts a billion people.
I got a kick out of southpark with the golden PSP episode. Turnes out the mormons are right and heaven is pretty damn empty. LOL
#74
05-22-2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Lard
When did this become a church session?
Danny, I have no issues with people being religious.......I went to a christian school until 8th grade and most of my family are very religious. What I do have a problem with is when religous people think they are better than someone else because they have "accepted" god into their life....or have found the "path" to heaven. I witnessed that kind of attitude from way too many people in my life. Now, to be fair there are A LOT of religious people out there who aren't like.....but that has just been my experience.
I also have a problem with people who go to church on sunday, but wouldn't hold a door open for a little old lady if you paid them to! To me, those are the little things that make a good person.....might not get me to heaven, but I'd rather be a good person (again, I'm just speaking in general)
So what I'm saying Danny is that just because a person has chosen the "path" or whatever you want to call it doesn't give that person an excuse to do wrong and then throw their hands up and say "oooops, I'm not perfect and god doesn't expect me to be perfect so it's ok if I foul up....I'll just ask for forgiveness". The real world doesn't work like that....try that one with a judge and see how far you get. ha ha ha ha....
anyway, I'm unsubscribing cause I pretty much come here to talk about mustangs
#76
05-22-2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
Not entirely true. I'll explain. With abortion, the baby doesn't have a CHOICE. However the person on death row had a CHOICE and they chose to break the law to an extent that their life was the penalty.
however, there are scenarios in which abortion is legit. ONLY, if there is without a doubt a risk of life be it the mother or unborn child would I say abortion is an option, but only if it is 100% sure that there is risk of life with the child being born.
however, there are scenarios in which abortion is legit. ONLY, if there is without a doubt a risk of life be it the mother or unborn child would I say abortion is an option, but only if it is 100% sure that there is risk of life with the child being born.
And on the abortion note. So you're saying if a child is going to be born completely mentally disabled, physically handicapped, but has good health in terms of their condition not being "life threatening," that you would still want to have the child, even though you would know before the child was born that they would have this dibilitating deformities. You would put a child into this world when the world eats people without disabilities alive? Yes, the child does not have a choice, but responsible people DO and making that CHOICE is never easy, but sometimes (granted not always) that the welfare of the child would be best left to parents who want and have planned for the child. We all want the best for our children and it is selfish of us to just spit them out and put them in a foster home or raise them in a family that never really wanted them.
#78
05-22-2006 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
Well, jesus was jewish. So If jesus was the son of god we can assume the jewish to that point were 100% right , however, christianity splintered off, believing jesus was the son of god, and worshiping him as the son of god.
The jewish dont believe he was the son of god, they dont believe that the christ was born. he is still on his way.
the christians and catholics have been worshiping the father, the son and the holy ghost. The son being Jesus, and praying to jesus, and all that. Accepting jesus as thier "LORD" and savior. lol
So, if the jewish are right, and Jesus was NOT the son of god, and just a prophet, then everyone is ****ed because god in the bible is a pretty staunchy bastard about worshiping false idols and figures. If the jewish were right, every christian and catholic have been worshiping a false god, because christians revere christ as much as god and pray to christ as well as god and put him right there with god.
Now, imagine you were praying to "the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and some ******* named steve" And lest say Steve is just some dude that everyone is praying to but has no relation to god. I think the god would take a pretty dim view of people putting steve there with him, and be pissed and damn the entire steve worshiping community.
On the other side of the coin, if the jewish are wrong and christ WAS the son of god, then they are all going to hell. They never take communion or get baptized, and without baptism the origional sin never gets washed away, so they are ****ed from the get go as well. They never accepted jesus christ as thier lord and savior.
LOL!!!!!!
Damned if ya do, damned if ya dont!
I dunno, maybe im wrong, but it seems everyone worships the same basic idea though different methods with different prspectives on it. But for the mopst part it is all the same. Dont lie, Dont cheat, Dont Steal, Dont kill. Treat people well and pull your own weight. And if you dont believe this specific religion, yer going to hell.
LOL.
I dont believe that personally. I dont think all the jews are gonna burn in hell any more than all the christians, or buddists, or catholics, or mormons are gonna burn in hell.
Tell ya what, Heaven must have one very very primere and select list as to who the bouncers let in, cause lets face it, at least 5 billion people out of the 6 billion are doomed to go to hell. And i dont even think there IS a religion that boasts a billion people.
I got a kick out of southpark with the golden PSP episode. Turnes out the mormons are right and heaven is pretty damn empty. LOL
The jewish dont believe he was the son of god, they dont believe that the christ was born. he is still on his way.
the christians and catholics have been worshiping the father, the son and the holy ghost. The son being Jesus, and praying to jesus, and all that. Accepting jesus as thier "LORD" and savior. lol
So, if the jewish are right, and Jesus was NOT the son of god, and just a prophet, then everyone is ****ed because god in the bible is a pretty staunchy bastard about worshiping false idols and figures. If the jewish were right, every christian and catholic have been worshiping a false god, because christians revere christ as much as god and pray to christ as well as god and put him right there with god.
Now, imagine you were praying to "the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and some ******* named steve" And lest say Steve is just some dude that everyone is praying to but has no relation to god. I think the god would take a pretty dim view of people putting steve there with him, and be pissed and damn the entire steve worshiping community.
On the other side of the coin, if the jewish are wrong and christ WAS the son of god, then they are all going to hell. They never take communion or get baptized, and without baptism the origional sin never gets washed away, so they are ****ed from the get go as well. They never accepted jesus christ as thier lord and savior.
LOL!!!!!!
Damned if ya do, damned if ya dont!
I dunno, maybe im wrong, but it seems everyone worships the same basic idea though different methods with different prspectives on it. But for the mopst part it is all the same. Dont lie, Dont cheat, Dont Steal, Dont kill. Treat people well and pull your own weight. And if you dont believe this specific religion, yer going to hell.
LOL.
I dont believe that personally. I dont think all the jews are gonna burn in hell any more than all the christians, or buddists, or catholics, or mormons are gonna burn in hell.
Tell ya what, Heaven must have one very very primere and select list as to who the bouncers let in, cause lets face it, at least 5 billion people out of the 6 billion are doomed to go to hell. And i dont even think there IS a religion that boasts a billion people.
I got a kick out of southpark with the golden PSP episode. Turnes out the mormons are right and heaven is pretty damn empty. LOL
wow jack! I didnt know you had it in you! Honestly though, you hit alot of good points, and you apparently know a good deal. The real fact of the matter is, God wants us to know who He is and wants us to know the truth. This kick JW and mormons out bc in their religion, questioning the truth is forbidden. You are thought to be pagaen if you even ask "why did this happen?" or attempt to do a study on your own. They both strongly discourage lookin up history to the point of kicking you out of the religion if you start pointing out errors.
Fact is, with christianity, there are no errors. You laugh, and type "yeah right" but yet, I want you to show me ONE contradiction in the bible. And I'm not talkin about number errors. In translating how they did in older times, typos or numerical errors have happened. but that doesnt mean the bible contradicts itself. You also have to know the greek/hebrew originals versions to fully understand the scope.
Basically, with the jews, Jesus did miraculous things daily, and the old testament(which they believe in) clearly prophesizes the messiah and jesus fulfilled every single prophecy. They just expected him to come as a real life king or royalty.
With Islam, a man who is a self-proclaimed 100% human wrote a book about what "God told him" while he was by himself. I also find it strange that in India, they refuse to translate the q'uran into other languages. People who are french, german, or anything else must learn arabic before they can learn the quran.
ok enough typing. I doubt many of you will even read all this
#79
05-23-2006 | 06:23 AM
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You obviously have not done your research when it comes to JW's. I am an agnostic, i have never been christian, or any other religion before, but i understand manny other religions just because i like the debates. I have more respect for JW's then any other type of christainity, becuase they actually do what the bible says, they dont just put there church time in and call it a day.
any JW i have ever met or interacted with allways does research, and they do question things, they just look to the bible for answers.
p.s. i agree with the dude about damned if ya do, damned if you dont.
there are THOUSANDS of potentially correct religions in this world, no one person has the time to devote to go through them systematically and check all of them, and then you pick one, and your chances of going to a sort of 'heaven' are what? 1/1000? 1/10000?
that sucks!
and i dont think there is any way to KNOW for sure, so why waist your time, live right, by the morals that you believe are right, and you will be rewarded
any JW i have ever met or interacted with allways does research, and they do question things, they just look to the bible for answers.
p.s. i agree with the dude about damned if ya do, damned if you dont.
there are THOUSANDS of potentially correct religions in this world, no one person has the time to devote to go through them systematically and check all of them, and then you pick one, and your chances of going to a sort of 'heaven' are what? 1/1000? 1/10000?
that sucks!
and i dont think there is any way to KNOW for sure, so why waist your time, live right, by the morals that you believe are right, and you will be rewarded
#80
05-23-2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
omg you guys aren't thinking clearly. But it's okay, it's expected for non-christians to think like non-christians. It's like parents who have a rebellious kid who is old enough to be kicked out. Yes, they love the kid dearly, but if the kid doesn't wanna go by the rules of the household, they get kicked out, end of story. Just bc the kid is good half the time, doesn't give him the right to disobey the other half.
But then again, it's really hard to humanize God and give analogies when they won't fit perfectly. If you have any concept of God and sin, you'll know that it's the only thing that He hates. If you realize that, you'll see how big of a deal it is. The fact that I flipped a guy off doesn't make me a hypocrite bc guess what...I'M NOT PERFECT. not even close. But I know the way to heaven, sure I stumble, but I correct my ways(sure as heck aint flippin anyone else off).
Besides, a middle finger is merely a symbol for a verbal obscenity, which is something that didn't even exist back in biblical times. All cursing does is hurts a christian's witness to non-christians, it doesn't make God love you any less. So nobody can pin me with "well you flipped that guy off" and call me a hypocrite. I'd be a hypocrite if I said "You shoudlnt flip people off" and THEN I went and did it. All that being a christian and flippin ppl off does is hurts ppls' perspective of me. Doesn't affect my relationship or future with God
But then again, it's really hard to humanize God and give analogies when they won't fit perfectly. If you have any concept of God and sin, you'll know that it's the only thing that He hates. If you realize that, you'll see how big of a deal it is. The fact that I flipped a guy off doesn't make me a hypocrite bc guess what...I'M NOT PERFECT. not even close. But I know the way to heaven, sure I stumble, but I correct my ways(sure as heck aint flippin anyone else off).
Besides, a middle finger is merely a symbol for a verbal obscenity, which is something that didn't even exist back in biblical times. All cursing does is hurts a christian's witness to non-christians, it doesn't make God love you any less. So nobody can pin me with "well you flipped that guy off" and call me a hypocrite. I'd be a hypocrite if I said "You shoudlnt flip people off" and THEN I went and did it. All that being a christian and flippin ppl off does is hurts ppls' perspective of me. Doesn't affect my relationship or future with God
Um....yes, there was verbal obcenity in Biblical times. What high horse did you come off of, Mr. Robertson?
With Islam, a man who is a self-proclaimed 100% human wrote a book about what "God told him" while he was by himself. I also find it strange that in India, they refuse to translate the q'uran into other languages. People who are french, german, or anything else must learn arabic before they can learn the quran.
Personally, I would prefer to read the original Greek of the Bible rather than the English versions that have been passed down to see what it really contained. I am a little skeptical that the current translation of the bible is a direct working translation from the Greek.
#81
05-23-2006 | 10:35 AM
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In reference to me saying there were no verbal obscenities...
Can you give me some credibal sources that point to your assertation?
As for jehovah's witnesses, they STRONGLY encourage group studying, and of course, only with the watchtower. If any of them ever though about reading the holy bible and then told people, they'd be nearly thrown out of the religion. JW also don't show love like christians when it comes to a family member having left the religion. JW's family will straight ignore their family member who left the relgion if they see them at a supermarket. In Christianity, we pray for our lost family on a daily basis
Originally Posted by MTShambles
Um....yes, there was verbal obcenity in Biblical times. What high horse did you come off of, Mr. Robertson?
Can you give me some credibal sources that point to your assertation?
As for jehovah's witnesses, they STRONGLY encourage group studying, and of course, only with the watchtower. If any of them ever though about reading the holy bible and then told people, they'd be nearly thrown out of the religion. JW also don't show love like christians when it comes to a family member having left the religion. JW's family will straight ignore their family member who left the relgion if they see them at a supermarket. In Christianity, we pray for our lost family on a daily basis
#82
05-23-2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
Can you give me some credibal sources that point to your assertation?
You were saying?
#83
05-23-2006 | 11:22 AM
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im sorry that somehow you got some information or had an experience with a JW that makes you believe this broad generalisation, but not all JW's are like that.
and for you to point a finger at all JW's for someone you might have known to do that isnt very christian like of you.
then again i remember the christains doing that a lot throughout history so w/e
EDIT: oh yea keep in mind, although i am playing the devil's advocate at this point i am NOT A JW, or any type of christian, just reminding people lol
and for you to point a finger at all JW's for someone you might have known to do that isnt very christian like of you.
then again i remember the christains doing that a lot throughout history so w/e
EDIT: oh yea keep in mind, although i am playing the devil's advocate at this point i am NOT A JW, or any type of christian, just reminding people lol
#84
05-23-2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MTShambles
LOL. Admit it. You made that entire site up.
#85
05-27-2006 | 01:16 PM
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While outsourcing may hurt some businesses here, in the long run it allows for lower prices for the consumer (you and me). Think about it, why would we outsource if it didn't provide somesort of benefit? This sort of economic competition is good for the economy, because it provides for competition, competition is the primary principle behind an open market capitalistic country such as ours. So while it may put a few out of work, it provides a benefit for the whole. Also, any one who is put out of work due to free trade will be retrained by the government. (Part of the NAFTA, "North American Free Trade Agreement").
-However, I do agree that we should look inside our borders and fix things here before we go else where and "help" other countries. I mean look at the billions of dollars spent on "helping" Iraq. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a bastard, but I think that the money could do alot more good here, than over there.
Oh and to answer the question, I'd consider myself a nonpartisan voter.
-However, I do agree that we should look inside our borders and fix things here before we go else where and "help" other countries. I mean look at the billions of dollars spent on "helping" Iraq. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a bastard, but I think that the money could do alot more good here, than over there.
Oh and to answer the question, I'd consider myself a nonpartisan voter.
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
im game.
Party = No affiliation. I think Dems and Reps both need to try to put more effort to work together, instead of against eachother. I believe the government should provide free health care, i believe in a national sales tax which would eliminate a lot of loopholes rich people use to dodge taxes, plus people would be taxed on thier lifestyle, not income. I think bush is a miserable bastard for promoting oursourcing to india. India's starving children are thier problem, lets not make our children starve in order to help them. I think it is time for america to worry about itself for a while. Lets take care of problem within our borders instead of focusing so much effort beyond out borders. Even though im stoked to be working on landscaping my yard, i still have to come into the house and clean once in a while. The house of america is getting pretty grimey.
Religion = Agnostic. I dont believe in that whole stereotypical white robes and white beard thing. But straight up evolution doesent make sence because it never gives a reason why existance happened in the first place.. I've heared of a belief called "intelligent design", Havent looked too much into it, but that seems to make the most sence at the core of the idea. If they have any kooky beliefs about zapping aliens out of thier heads, i havent heared them so please forgive me. i think there has to be a higher being, but i dont think it is what anyone really expects.
Party = No affiliation. I think Dems and Reps both need to try to put more effort to work together, instead of against eachother. I believe the government should provide free health care, i believe in a national sales tax which would eliminate a lot of loopholes rich people use to dodge taxes, plus people would be taxed on thier lifestyle, not income. I think bush is a miserable bastard for promoting oursourcing to india. India's starving children are thier problem, lets not make our children starve in order to help them. I think it is time for america to worry about itself for a while. Lets take care of problem within our borders instead of focusing so much effort beyond out borders. Even though im stoked to be working on landscaping my yard, i still have to come into the house and clean once in a while. The house of america is getting pretty grimey.
Religion = Agnostic. I dont believe in that whole stereotypical white robes and white beard thing. But straight up evolution doesent make sence because it never gives a reason why existance happened in the first place.. I've heared of a belief called "intelligent design", Havent looked too much into it, but that seems to make the most sence at the core of the idea. If they have any kooky beliefs about zapping aliens out of thier heads, i havent heared them so please forgive me. i think there has to be a higher being, but i dont think it is what anyone really expects.
#86
05-27-2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by drw0392
While outsourcing may hurt some businesses here, in the long run it allows for lower prices for the consumer (you and me). Think about it, why would we outsource if it didn't provide somesort of benefit? This sort of economic competition is good for the economy, because it provides for competition, competition is the primary principle behind an open market capitalistic country such as ours. So while it may put a few out of work, it provides a benefit for the whole. Also, any one who is put out of work due to free trade will be retrained by the government. (Part of the NAFTA, "North American Free Trade Agreement").
-However, I do agree that we should look inside our borders and fix things here before we go else where and "help" other countries. I mean look at the billions of dollars spent on "helping" Iraq. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a bastard, but I think that the money could do alot more good here, than over there.
Oh and to answer the question, I'd consider myself a nonpartisan voter.
-However, I do agree that we should look inside our borders and fix things here before we go else where and "help" other countries. I mean look at the billions of dollars spent on "helping" Iraq. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a bastard, but I think that the money could do alot more good here, than over there.
Oh and to answer the question, I'd consider myself a nonpartisan voter.
Sorry, but you will have to fogive me if i would preffer to have a job and higher prices, rather than have no job and not be able to afford the lower prices. There is no escuse for this, i dont give a **** it something is a little bit cheaper, im american, i work for an american company. i want to have a ****ing job.
Ive heared the arguments about this, and ive also heared bush bragging about how much we helped india's economy.
**** india.
Lets worry about america. There is no escuse for this. Who cares if a T1 is a little less a month. Do you really think any of these companys plan to lower thier prices after outsourcing? No. They plan to keep that extra money.
#87
05-29-2006 | 09:06 AM
Senior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 544
From: OH
Party= Democrat (I would honestly vote for a Republican if I thought he could do a better job)
Religion= Atheist
I'm not Atheist just to jump on the band-wagon (it seems like a lot of people are self-proclaimed Atheists where I live). I was raised hard-core Catholic. I had to go to church every single day for the first 13 years of my life, then I really looked into all of it and I saw no proof in anything they said. I'm a see it to believe it kind of person and I've seen nothing to prove that there is any "higher power" in this world.
Religion= Atheist
I'm not Atheist just to jump on the band-wagon (it seems like a lot of people are self-proclaimed Atheists where I live). I was raised hard-core Catholic. I had to go to church every single day for the first 13 years of my life, then I really looked into all of it and I saw no proof in anything they said. I'm a see it to believe it kind of person and I've seen nothing to prove that there is any "higher power" in this world.
#88
05-29-2006 | 09:18 AM
Senior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 544
From: OH
Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
Sorry, but you will have to fogive me if i would preffer to have a job and higher prices, rather than have no job and not be able to afford the lower prices. There is no escuse for this, i dont give a **** it something is a little bit cheaper, im american, i work for an american company. i want to have a ****ing job.
Ive heared the arguments about this, and ive also heared bush bragging about how much we helped india's economy.
**** india.
Lets worry about america. There is no escuse for this. Who cares if a T1 is a little less a month. Do you really think any of these companys plan to lower thier prices after outsourcing? No. They plan to keep that extra money.
Ive heared the arguments about this, and ive also heared bush bragging about how much we helped india's economy.
**** india.
Lets worry about america. There is no escuse for this. Who cares if a T1 is a little less a month. Do you really think any of these companys plan to lower thier prices after outsourcing? No. They plan to keep that extra money.
#89
05-29-2006 | 01:10 PM
Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 35
From: Cali
Originally Posted by Zaff03GT
man it must really **** you guys off that I have an American flag and bald eagle in my avatar. If it was up to you there prolly wouldent be an american flag.
Excerpt from the declaration of independence of the United States.
Such has been the patient Sufferance so these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the Present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a candid World.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...f_Independence
#90
05-29-2006 | 01:19 PM
Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 35
From: Cali
Originally Posted by SlicK
Party= Democrat (I would honestly vote for a Republican if I thought he could do a better job)
Religion= Atheist
I'm not Atheist just to jump on the band-wagon (it seems like a lot of people are self-proclaimed Atheists where I live). I was raised hard-core Catholic. I had to go to church every single day for the first 13 years of my life, then I really looked into all of it and I saw no proof in anything they said. I'm a see it to believe it kind of person and I've seen nothing to prove that there is any "higher power" in this world.
Religion= Atheist
I'm not Atheist just to jump on the band-wagon (it seems like a lot of people are self-proclaimed Atheists where I live). I was raised hard-core Catholic. I had to go to church every single day for the first 13 years of my life, then I really looked into all of it and I saw no proof in anything they said. I'm a see it to believe it kind of person and I've seen nothing to prove that there is any "higher power" in this world.
Faith- (from wikipedia)-...in an aspect of the object and cannot be logically proven or objectively known. Faith can also be defined as accepting as true something which one has been told by someone who is believed to be trustworthy. It can also mean believing unconditionally. In its proper sense faith means trusting the word of another