monkey?????

 

monkey = ticket = idea = the way of things = karma

 

no.. that'd be bad. .020 over.

 

opps yeah your right. So I guess i have a 5.487 or whatever it is also.

 

w00t. Just call it a 5.5. Anyone with a 4.6 gives you **** you can just hold the gas down till you don't hear em no more. Nobody'd bugged me about it yet.

 

I don't think I will hear them to start with between my exhaust and the supercharger whinning.

 

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What kind of little things needed to be changed?

 

New coil packs unless you cut yours, different alternator, bigger fuel injectors and rails. Most likely bigger fuel pump too for most people. For the heads everything is doubled. Custom intake and you will need a new TB. Stronger clutch in my case. Will need to switch pulleys from 6-rib to 8-rib.I replaced all the timing too just in case. Need to switch headers also. I'm sure there's more that I forgot.

 

Cool deal dude, I got the coil packs(but will have to switch the pinout from my understanding). Why do you need a diff alt? Injectors I figured on(im going for atleast 450ishwhp on motor) so will stick with either the 39's or 42's, whichever I can get the best deal on used. Intake Ill make. My clutch should be fine. Pump will be upgraded to a supra intake pump(I happen to have a spare anyway, and there good for about 600whp) I kept my 6 rib setup with this 5.4 thats in the car now with no issues. Im gonna go with a set of longtubes also. Damn this is making me want to go to the shop, pull out all my parts and throw together the remaining parts for the DOHC! Stop posting this atleast until I get some numbers on the setup thats in the car now HAHA!

 

LOL, anyone interested in what should be a good running 5.4 SOHC engine, let me know and Ill pull mine out. Has all new gaskets. Comes with PI heads, intake, adapter plates, sitting at about 11.02 comp. Will let the whole assy go for $1000 complete from intake to oil pan. Can hear run or drive as far as I care. Located in va. Bottom end has 80K miles IIRC. Heads have 60K and have been port matched to the adapter plates. Includes EVERYTHING, just drop in and go

 

thats not bad for someone that hasn't started thier project yet...

 

I love the way the car feels when driving around, thats not the problem. My main goal with the car was/is to go 4v 5.4. I really dont wanna spend more money for boltons and a tune and longtubes only to be getting rid of it. Just doesnt make much sense. If the longblock doesnt sell very soon at that price, I will just pull it back out and install all my navi stuff on it. I figure this go round Ill go with
lightly ported navi heads
96-98 OR 01 cobra cams
widened cobra intake(the custom intake will go on the other engine, dont really wanna be shifting this thing at 7500)

No clue on how much power it will make, not sure if this combo has ever been tried or not. Thats the big problem with swaps, you never know what to expect hp wise. Sure, you can guess but who knows.

I figure, my engine which should come close to 290ish to the wheels for a grand should sell quick, or i hope it does. If not, really no harm done as Ill have the shortblock ready then. Wife said I am nuts since I just put it in LOL.

 

Going to the shop now to snap some pics.

EDIT: found the pics I took a while back but dont have a clue how my mother in law gets the pictures to her comp(she is using my digi cam, hers is dead and my base transfer thing is in storage) but will ask her tomm if she can load them on her comp and email them to me. However, I really wanna get a good vid of what it sounds like now with the x pipe and 1 chamber flows dumped.

 

I would be all over that if it wasnt 11:1 compression

 

singlesupra - did u ever dyno the 2v?

 

Why? Looking to go supercharged? With stock tune and AMOCO gas I get 0 detination on the stock tune, if its the pumpgas your worried about. The first couple miles I put on it I had slight detination, but that was apparently due to the 2 year old gas that was in the car. However, on a boosted engine(although some will dissagree) IMO its too high. But boy oh boy would it love a hit of nitrous HAHA Id guess it would make damn near 580rwtq on a 150 shot with a mix of racegas and pump!

 

No sir, thats one of the reasons I am considering selling. By the time I add all the boltons on and tune I am looking at more money than it would cost me to just convert it to 4v(since I allready have the heads, cams, etc..) However, Randy Haywood told me that 300whp with stock cams/heads(but a better intake) shouldnt be a problem. I think he has done more 5.4's than anyone, the man is a modular genious!

 

BTW, r3d is gonna kick my *** when he see's Im selling it so fast LOL. My guess is, the engine that I replace it with want stay in the car for too long either. I get so much enjoyment out of working on the damn things than I do driving them. If my hours at work didnt suck so bad, and could actually get out and drive it when others were awake it wouldnt be so bad.

 

I thought Id share this vid clip with you 5.4 guys. This Crown Vic has a Lightning 5.4 with a Whipple blower on it. As I mentioned earlier in this thread the Whipple isnt fed from the top like the Eaton, its fed from the side. That makes it alot shorter than the Eaton setup.

Check out the vid, if you pause it 5 seconds in you can get a good look. I think the whipple 5.4 Mustang combo might actually fit under an uncut cowl hood.

This a Police Interceptor with a 20PSI Whipple Supercharged 5.4 Gen II Lightning engine belonging to Sal Mennella of Powersurge performance in Long Island New York

 

Then whats a .030+ in L?? 5.6??... I know cubes makes it approx. a 335

 

still a 5.5.

 

I'd take the engine anyway... It's a good solid motor that's at least been checked over and run. I'd buy it and build it how you want it. Getting a complete motor for a grand is a deal. Don't be silly and pass up a killer deal on a complete motor.

EDIT: Single... s'all good. I'll probably go 3v or 4v in a year or so as well. I'm going 2v until there's no more power to be made cost effectively then on go the multi-valve heads.

On another note, I got my new roush upper. Unless anyone wants to claim it for 300 + shipping, I'm going to mod it and make a blower kit on it and sell the whole kit for a helluva lot more.

 

Yea, I figure blown up 5.4's sell for 500ish, so mine in perfect shape ready to drop in from the throttlebody down to the pan ready to drop is should be a steal!

 

Yeah I paid $600 for my Navi motor. Guy said there was knock but it ran. I just bored it and replaced everything in it.

 

That's about what I see on the market... <1000 for a motor that needs any level of work, or 1500 and up for a solid runner. Getting a runner for 1000 is great. Costs about 220-350 to ship a motor by freight on a pallet.

 

If I have the money when you put it up for sale, I'll take it

 

Its up forsale now, if its not sold before I finish the slight port on the navi heads Im just gonna put all the 4v stuff on this shortblock and reinstall it.

R3d, how does that program work that you have? Id like to get a rough idea of what a
5.4 with flattops, with the navi heads(IIRC comp is about 9.8:1ish)
lightly ported navi heads/stock valves
96-98 cobra cams or 01 cobra cams
widened mach or cobra intake
stock headers(for a while) with x pipe and 1 chamber flows
full boltons
Kinda curiuos as to what I might expect to see. I know the mach1 guys are picking up 30hp with the 99-01 cobra cams so...

 

Where abouts in VA are you?

I'm interested in doing the swap but I have a few questions about the motor.

Are the internals stock? If so, how is the Comp ratio higher. I thought stock 5.4's were bit lower? Have you put all 80k on the motor
Do you have any compression test numbers or anything?

I guess I'm looking for some more info on the motor

Also, I have an auto tranny. Has anybody done a 5.4 swap with an auto?

 

In near danville va, or about an hour due east of richmond. Comp is higher due to the flat tops and 45cc heads(the navi heads have larger chambers). No, i have only put 300ish miles on the swap, the bottom end has stock components BUT has a forged steel crank. I didnt do a comp check since installing the heads but will if you come down and are serious about buying. If you tell me where you will be coming from, I can tell you how far away from me you are. I have to go take some pics of some heads tonight, and am going to FINALLY get some pictures up of the swap as well as a video
Cant help ya on the auto tranny, but should be a boltin affair same as the 5 speed.