Modular 4.6L Tech For all your 1996-2005+ 2V, 3V, and 4V modular motor needs.
View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
Voters: 220. You may not vote on this poll

Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.

Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:39 AM
  #3481  
shakin_bakin's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
Default

its the 2000 Cobra R hood ... just instead of vents... it has a hood scoop thats functional
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:44 AM
  #3482  
Morgan The Black's Avatar
Creature Of The Wheel
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 490
From: Mebane, NC
Default

The chocolate milk could just be from condensation in the crankcase collecting there, I had alot of that on another car I used to have... but I think I'd find out what the rest looked like.. drain it if you had to..

Like half these other guys, I'm getting everything together waiting on the intakes. I'm actually gonna swap the motor I bought with the one in my dad's truck, a '99 F150 with a 5.4. It's got a bunch of miles on it and I'm pretty much replacing everything so I didnt feel right about rebuilding the other one with low miles. I'm gonna get that swaped that next weekend, cant complain for $350, then I'll start on that motor. About all I need is a set of pistons and rings (depending on what the bore looks like) probably gonna go flat tops, and do something about heads. I'm hoping to have it all together so I can just throw the intake on and go with it, then put the longtubes in later on. Thats pretty much the time frame I'm looking at.
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 09:56 AM
  #3483  
shakin_bakin's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
Default

**** it... im waiting on the HPS... i just cant get away from how nice the longtubes and the HPS are going to be... i will need a plenum and a new T/B though since all i have is stock ones
well dont even have stock plenum got rid of it when i got the P-51....
hmmm
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:05 AM
  #3484  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

anyone interested in a Roush supercharged upper intake? You'll have to make or purchase a lower box and put the blower on it but it's the biggest thing you need to do a blower job on a 5.4 car with adapter plates.

Anyone want to purchase? Single? Shakin? Morgan? MyIllwill?


 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:23 AM
  #3485  
shakin_bakin's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
Default

man you know i want that...
.... hmm
how much you asking?
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:23 AM
  #3486  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

Also... EGR delete pics for those that need them.

Name:  EGRdelete.jpg
Views: 176
Size:  445.5 KB
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:24 AM
  #3487  
shakin_bakin's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
Default

had my mind made up too that i was going centri or turbo... then you bring this **** out... cmon man your killing me...
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:27 AM
  #3488  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

make offer... I dont' got but a couple hundred in it. I bought it specifically cuz I knew one of you guys would want it and I felt like not letting it slip past us.
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 10:31 AM
  #3489  
myillwillinc's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,233
From: bham, ala
Default

i'm gonna go with this bad boy when i get the time to finish the long tubes.... its a one off piece and capable of 25psi. i'l go with the hps intake when it comes out. i might do a dyno test with the hps intake and the lightning lower/cobra upper with the blower....
 
Attached Thumbnails Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.-headunit3.jpg   Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.-headunit1.jpg   Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.-headunit2.jpg  
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 06:32 PM
  #3490  
singlesupra's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 269
Default

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
All:
What if we see about getting a passenger side flowtech longtube and a driver side BBK longtube and trying a bolt-up test? Is there anyone but me ready for the labor? I could really use any help you guys can right now.

.
How can we do this? I will definatly be a quiniepig for this one and am ready for whatever labor. If you guys can find the parts Ill be glad to give that PITA job a try. Will even modify the header(and take pics and measurements to boot) of what/if anything needed to be done. How can we possibly get one part from 2 diff companys?
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 06:36 PM
  #3491  
singlesupra's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 269
Default

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
anyone interested in a Roush supercharged upper intake? You'll have to make or purchase a lower box and put the blower on it but it's the biggest thing you need to do a blower job on a 5.4 car with adapter plates.

Anyone want to purchase? Single? Shakin? Morgan? MyIllwill?


Where and how long are the runners on that? I dont see the entrance? I doubt I will ever go blower on this engine with such high comp, but never hurts to have parts laying around ya know? What you want for it?
 
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 08:13 PM
  #3492  
completenewb's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 74
Default

Originally Posted by myillwillinc
i'm gonna go with this bad boy when i get the time to finish the long tubes.... its a one off piece and capable of 25psi. i'l go with the hps intake when it comes out. i might do a dyno test with the hps intake and the lightning lower/cobra upper with the blower....
That impeller looks like its a procharger impeller.
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:31 AM
  #3493  
myillwillinc's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,233
From: bham, ala
Default

might be. not sure.
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:04 AM
  #3494  
96blackgt54's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 278
From: Lawrenceburg,KY
Default

Originally Posted by singlesupra
Where and how long are the runners on that? I dont see the entrance? I doubt I will ever go blower on this engine with such high comp, but never hurts to have parts laying around ya know? What you want for it?
I thought I could use my lower intake in N/A from the Holley S/C setup. Just put a plate on top with the right bolt pattern for the stock intake plenum and should be fine. WRONG!
Would you believe it had no torque! I could however spin that engine to the moon.
The intake only had a runner length of about an inch.
 
Attached Thumbnails Anyone intrested in 5.4L swaps, in here. Need you to opine.-5.4l-intake-011.jpg  
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:12 AM
  #3495  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

Originally Posted by singlesupra
How can we do this? I will definatly be a quiniepig for this one and am ready for whatever labor. If you guys can find the parts Ill be glad to give that PITA job a try. Will even modify the header(and take pics and measurements to boot) of what/if anything needed to be done. How can we possibly get one part from 2 diff companys?
I'll call up and ask. That's the easiest way. If we're willing to do the R&D for them hell I can't imagine them being any happier.

Originally Posted by singlesupra
Where and how long are the runners on that? I dont see the entrance? I doubt I will ever go blower on this engine with such high comp, but never hurts to have parts laying around ya know? What you want for it?
They're about 3" as near as I can tell. They're just radiused entrances on the perimeter with nice short tubes to the head ports. The thing is definitely going to need to be ported for maximum peak numbers but boy it'll flow nice with a 3L common plenum under it or a custom IC.

It's just a basic top half and it's going to need a skilled guy or a bunch of parts so I'd say the first guy to offer me 300 bucks plus shipping has themselves a new blower intake top half.

BTW, never underestimate how well the modulars respond to 10:1 and 10lbs of boost. The 4v's love it even more but 2v's respond well enough. Now 11:1 is just harder to tune but 10:1 isn't too bad on modest boost.

Originally Posted by 96blackgt54
I thought I could use my lower intake in N/A from the Holley S/C setup. Just put a plate on top with the right bolt pattern for the stock intake plenum and should be fine. WRONG!
Would you believe it had no torque! I could however spin that engine to the moon.
The intake only had a runner length of about an inch.
The holley lower could be modified with velocity stacks on the entrances for NA use... it'd still be a little less than perfect but it'd be better.

Perhaps after I'm done with the whole NA bit I'll swap you my 5.4 NA intake setup for your blower intake setup.
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:34 PM
  #3496  
Morgan The Black's Avatar
Creature Of The Wheel
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 490
From: Mebane, NC
Default

I'm sure its been covered but can I switch the short and long water pumps and still have the belt line up, with the appropriate pulley of course?
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:37 PM
  #3497  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

jep. Just gotta use the right pulley.
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #3498  
singlesupra's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 269
Default

Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
I'm sure its been covered but can I switch the short and long water pumps and still have the belt line up, with the appropriate pulley of course?
I might be reading incorrectly BUT i used the stock navi waterpump and used the mustang pulley and had no issues. I used all the mustang accy's.

However, one thing been bugging me. For the life of me I dont recall EVER hooking up a knock sensor on this engine or even installing one. They do have them right? LOL
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 02:01 PM
  #3499  
singlesupra's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 269
Default

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
I'll call up and ask. That's the easiest way. If we're willing to do the R&D for them hell I can't imagine them being any happier.
.
Will 2 diff companys be down for this since were mixing and matching parts? As I stated earlier, Ill be glad to do the R&D and install. BTW, drivabilty is absolutly perfect with the stock tune and 5.4 install
 
Old Jan 22, 2008 | 11:13 PM
  #3500  
shakin_bakin's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 213
Default

for all those looking for a 5.4 intake manifold...
you can call up www.modularmustangracing.com and get one...
you have to use a lightning lower... but the intake is a low profile version made to clear the mustang hood they said... IE i just got off the phone with them...
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:59 AM
  #3501  
completenewb's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 74
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
for all those looking for a 5.4 intake manifold...
you can call up www.modularmustangracing.com and get one...
you have to use a lightning lower... but the intake is a low profile version made to clear the mustang hood they said... IE i just got off the phone with them...
They also have one for the navigator lower so thats a 4v option although says may not clear factory hood.

The one that uses lightning lower says can be used with or without factory intercooler so thats a good option..
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:02 PM
  #3502  
saleenride's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 31
From: Boiling Springs, PA
Default

I have the one with the Navi bottom. Don't know how it fits under a hood yet. Was told I would need a 3in cowl for it so I traded for a 3 1/2in cowl not know it would be 5in because they don't count the first hump.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:10 PM
  #3503  
tooslow's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 182
Default

Originally Posted by saleenride
I have the one with the Navi bottom. Don't know how it fits under a hood yet. Was told I would need a 3in cowl for it so I traded for a 3 1/2in cowl not know it would be 5in because they don't count the first hump.
you could try also k-member drop spacers also. give a little breathing room.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:13 PM
  #3504  
tooslow's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 182
Default

this looks strangely familiar.



i wonder if anyone had an idea like this a year or so ago


i'm just glad some one else thought of it and made it. i may not need the HPS after all...
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:18 PM
  #3505  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

Originally Posted by singlesupra
However, one thing been bugging me. For the life of me I dont recall EVER hooking up a knock sensor on this engine or even installing one. They do have them right? LOL
The 5.4's had knock sensors but the mustangs don't use them. From what I understand they were never properly utilized in the cars they were equipped on. No worries. Leave em off.


Originally Posted by shakin_bakin
for all those looking for a 5.4 intake manifold...
you can call up www.modularmustangracing.com and get one...
you have to use a lightning lower... but the intake is a low profile version made to clear the mustang hood they said... IE i just got off the phone with them...
You'll lose a huge amount of tq like that. It's a chopped up solution at best and it's 950 bucks. Wait a few weeks and get the HPS intake. At least it's a real solution.

Originally Posted by tooslow
you could try also k-member drop spacers also. give a little breathing room.
Maximum Motorsports is working on that.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:23 PM
  #3506  
tooslow's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 182
Default

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
You'll lose a huge amount of tq like that. It's a chopped up solution at best and it's 950 bucks. Wait a few weeks and get the HPS intake. At least it's a real solution.
but what if we want to keep the intercooler?

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
Maximum Motorsports is working on that.
thought so
 

Last edited by r3dn3ck; Jan 23, 2008 at 02:28 PM.
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:27 PM
  #3507  
copracr's Avatar
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 70
Default

if anyone wants a set of adapter plates or intake manifolds I think I'm gonna sell mine on the cheap and get that HPS intake.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:29 PM
  #3508  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

intercooler on a NA is funny, if you're planning on a blower that is actually a killer thought but you'll still lose a bit of low end before the boost kicks in. Anyone with a centri blower should think about that MMR upper dealie...
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:31 PM
  #3509  
r3dn3ck's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Wowbagger hates me too!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,865
From: Magrathea/California
Default

ditto that copracr... my plates will definitely be coming up for sale soon. The intake may go back to HPS for their wall of fame.
 
Old Jan 23, 2008 | 02:34 PM
  #3510  
tooslow's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 182
Default

yes, forced induction would be included. hahah.

and sorry for screwing up the quotes.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:50 PM.