Ok everyone I'm thinking of getting a CAI and was wondering which one everyone likes and why?I'm leaning toward the K&N FIPK.

 

Ive just got the k&n drop in filter but I can tell you with k&n filters, if they arent cleaned and oiled right youll get pinging from your MAM and screen getting dirty. I finally found out that was a common problem that few people knew the cause of. Id say get a 80 or 85mm MAM combo with filter and get a c&l tru flow pipe.
these can be found decently priced at www.50resto.com

 

Im considering getting a Amsoil filter. Unlike the oil used on a K&N filter or comparable, the Amsoil product uses a tacky oil for the filter element. Its a 2 layer foam filter which they claim is thicker than others which would yeild better filtering combined with the tacky oil.

 

The K&N CAI is dyno proven. I saw this for myself on the spike channel. Horsepower tv put one on an 05 GT and they got 10 more hp

 

I'd save your money and get a good mod. No CAI here. That kind of stuff should be last...not 1st.


Adam

 

Im not discrediting the show or K&N but, don't believe everything you see on tv. They get paid to tell you the products they use are great. Id be more apt. to believe it had they had shown the dynosheet before and after. Just saying they got "x" amount of hp doesnt mean anything. I guess I'm just a bit more skeptical than most.

 

I agree.Most magazine ads and tv shows are all "rigged" to a point.

Unless you just want to spend money .Buy a K&N drop in filter,trim the inlet tube in the fender well(note i said trim not remove)..That will give you the best bang ...

 

Aleady done that Want something that looks good for car shows too.

 

Then go with the JLT setup..Its the only one that i care for.I use his setup on my own car.

 

JLT are great looking and won't hurt your power.

 

I went with the mac setup. The chrome tube looks good with other chrome engine dress up pieces and will look better with the accufab tb/plenum that I'm going to get. Down side is the filter is mounted in the fender well.

 

heh..i saw that show to!
10hp from just a intake is good..looks like the 05's LOVE mods.

 

True but they dont tell everything..

Here is a REAL dyno test of the mods for a 05:
HERE

 

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-2519-3
K&N claims 10rwhp increase with their fipk system

 

Exactly CLAIMS to get 10rwhp..

Its NOT gonna happen.

You also notice it says it was a SECOND gear run..WTF LOL..
And it was dynoed 45mins later..A cool down make power too.

 

DENSECHARGER OR DEMOLET IS THE BEST CAI ON THE MARKET. IF YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE OR CALL THEM THEY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE GAINS THEY HAVE MADE.
PLUS WITH THE PLASTIC TUBING MY AIR TEMP IS ALOT COOLER THEY ALL OF THE OTHER CAI ON THE MARKET, BEFORE YOU BUY CALL OR CHECK OUT THE WEB SITE: http://www.demolet.com/index.htm
I HAVE HAD MINE OVER A YEAR AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS AND IT COMES WITH A GREEN FILTER WHICH I LIKE BETTER THEN K&N....

 

Dam dude !!the caps lock button is on the left side of the keyboard..

Yea any maker will tell you about their gains.Its how they sell their product.I prefer tried and true tests done by real world peaple.

 

I Love :d :d :d :d :d Caps!!!

 

Yah. Since when is second gear a 1:1 ratio. Who do they think they are foolin?

 

Id go with JLT before anything else other than my K&N airfilter. I havent had any pinging and Ive had my uncleaned K&N in for about 10, 000 miles. I think most peoples problems is over-oiling them and the oil getting in the MAF.

 

If anyone wants to spend a few days reading one of the world's longest threads on this subject, check out www.allfordmustangs.com in their forums.

My personal experience:

CAI's are not the most hp for the money, nor the best performance gain for the money - I believe that title goes to gears, hands down. If you have about $500 to spend, go with gears, and you'll be glad you did (subject of whether you want 3.55, 3.73, 3.90, 4.10, 4.30 etc is another mile-long thead, though...).

If you want the cai mainly for the bling factor, the MAC is as good as any, and cheaper than most - though those $30 sets on EBAY are cheaper than dirt, and look essentially identical. (Anyone who's got actual hands on experience with these can chime in - never actually spoken with anyone who admits to buying one of these super cheap items).

The hp gains to be had from most CAI's come partially (about 50%) from the elimination of the restrictive oe silencer and filter. A typical stock GT might see a peak gain of 10hp or so, with 5hp coming from the CAI, and 5 from the elimination of the silencer and the addition of the better filter. Poorly designed/installed CAI's can indeed result in mass air contaimination or air flow turbulence that can roughen the idle - many early models did just that (and I would expect such problems from those EBAY items, for instance). I installed a MAC unit (in the fender type) several years ago, along with a C&L intake plenum and Accufab 75mm throttle body, then a Diablo Predator tune for premium fuel. Dyno showed a 29 hp increase from the lot - which I am happy with. Response was greatly improved as well. Could I have achieved a greater gain from spending the roughly $1000 on other things? Absolutely, but then, I had already done the cam and rear gear thing...

If one is serious about horsepower, bling items like polished tb's and big tube cai's are usually last on the list, not first, but they ARE on the list.

If one is serious about show polish, the list gets reversed, no question - 4.10 gears and a tri-ax shifter won't win you one single point in a bling-judged show!

I'm about to revisit the rear gears (supercharger coming up) and add a posi unit (traklok or eaton, haven't yet decided). This will mean replacing perfectly funcitoning and expensive components and duplicating expensive labor costs.

Think before you build - and you won't be making the mistakes I've made. If you want a supercharger, save your money and buy that FIRST. The debate over whether or not the CAI works or is worth the money is less important than whether or not a major downstream modification is going to require the replacement of that expensive item, wasting time, money and karma.

If the CAI or any other mod does make sense for you, a final aside - contact the manufacturer before you buy - get an idea of the level and quality of their customer support and how well they respond to your questions.

When I recently considered replacing my CAI, I found that John DeMolet and Pro-M responded immediately to all my questions, and were commited to service. Most of the others had a far slower, canned response that did not impress. Some had zero response - not the reaction one would want if you just spent money on their products.

This advise applies to ANYTHING you buy. It might surprise you how many major players have abysmal customer service.

tripleblack

 

Already have the gears,was just wondering about what CAI's everyone liked and why.I know they dont add much power and I'm not concerned about that.Very good write up that will help some of are less expirenced Stangers here.

 

And yes that is a long and drawn out thread on allfordmustangs.com kinda like the one on the ram air myth.

 

In case I buried this in my essay, I like the DeMolet Densecharger CAI in the Carbon Fiber option with body color painted tubes (they are painted by a Ford Dealer on contract with John in oe Ford colors/paints). Saw one on a Cobra this past week - very nice, though of course lacking in the all-chrome/bling factor.

As for the ram air, I installed one on my car. Cost me power and I pulled it off and sold it as fast as I could.

tripleblack

 

I have the silencer removed, a K & N filter and cut the top portion (facing up) of the stock air box off. The bottom and side towards the fan remain. I pull the passenger side headlight when I run at the track. Not pretty like the fake chrome stuff that gets red hot or the Demolet which plays havoc with your MAF.
But the bottom line is it makes more power than any aftermarket kit and was 40.00 for the filter.
I'm a racer so I don't care if it's ugly, but I know a lot of people are more into the bling factor. I like the carbon fiber Demolet look and the JLT painted to match the car.