:Thin5: i have an 02 gt with o/r h pipe cat back 4.10 gears and auto. what should my et be. and what would it be with 80 shot of nitrous.

 

13s if you tuned teh car to shift right with the gears, if not who knows. with the nitrous 12 something maybe if you hook good. who knows go race

 

thanks going to try and make it this weekend.

 

what other mods besides the gears and exhaust do you have?

 

What nitrous kit are you running?

 

tuned with predator that's it for now. :MEGA1:

 

i dont have one yet but it will be either the venom or zex

 

I don't think you should run a nitrous kit with an aftermarket tuner. You should get the engine tuned for the nitrous as soon as you put the kit on. The reason for this is tuners generally advance the timing, which combined with NO2 = blown motor...and that's bad. :angry4:

 

yeah thats why i just used it for gear calibration and turning off sensor for offroad mid pipe.

 

if you like garbage, go with one of those kits... if you Like Filet Mingon... go with Texas Nitrous Technologies (TNT), they make AWESOME kits that come with WOT switches and brackets... TNT kits are THE BEST on the market... so please go with them...

Also, as for the tune.... someone previously said something about timing.... When you run nitrous, you NEED to pull timing out to avoid detonation. Also, the best thing to do, is get a tune every season to get the BEST performance out of your car, and to avoid any complications

-Garth

 

I think calling those kits garbage is a bit extreme. Sure, TNT are great, but not everyone can afford them or needs one. For the typical person that wants to run a 75 or a 100 dry shot on a lightky modded car, the Zex and Venom kits can fit the bill and the task perfectly.

I think calling a Venom kit garbage is like calling a Mustang garbage and telling someone they should buy a Ferrari.

Also tuning each season can be wasteful too for some people and it completely pointless with a Venom kit in the first place.

 

lol call me an *******, or whatever you'd like, but mustangs are garbage lol.... Look at chevies.... Smaller engines more cubes, and MORE power, better gasmilage... Even though I refer to mustangs as garbage, I love them!! I can't get enough.... except for the mustang II's.... only nice one I know of is in Tucson AZ....

As for tuning, sorry, I forget this isn't the local board lol... but in AZ it is required to get a summer and winter tune no matter what lol, it does suck at times, but you reap the benifits at the track... nothin like pulling a 13.8 on a pretty much STOCK 02 GT in 115 heat lol and street tires!!!

Maybe I was a little harsh with the Venom kits, I don't know alot about them, but out here, it's either spend the cash on the TNT, or buy a new motor and wait...

The people with the money here are the ones who's cars actually last with the juice cause they CAN afford the good stuff....

Like my daddy told me when I first went to the track... Don't race it if you can't afford to fix it when it breaks... I still live by that today... if I am low on dough, I don't do crap... as to why I am getting the stroker, so it is forged

 

All I am really trying to say, is that different people need different things.

I once told a friend who was into bike riding that I needed help to buy a bike. I figured I would spend $300 on a Trek. So, he takes me to two bikes stores and insists that I should spend $2500 cuz that is what he uses. He rides every dam day of his life, I just wanted something decent that would get the job done.

For a serious racer looking for serious performance with a serious motor, looking for serious times, buying a Zex or a Venom would not be a good fit. i would say TNT or NX all the way.

Zex and Venom is really more for the recreational user who is looking for some fun on a car with a light mods both street and strip. Both of these systems have methods for trying to control the a/f. IMO, they generally work fine for these applications especially when something like a 75 shot is being used and especially when the driver takes other things into consideration like timing and plugs.

To be honest, I am gonna go back to platinum plugs on my car as I keep having to replace the coppers and I think the tighter gap might be hurting me n/a. One thing about nitrous is that it is hard to have your car setup both ways, but when using a smaller shot, I think you can get away with it.

 

I agree, not everyone needs the nasty 125hit like i do. Some just want a little extra to beat a freind or have fun. And Zex and Venom are great for that. But for all out power Compucar,TNT and NX are where its at. Oh and NOS but i dont really personly liek there quality anymore.

 

Yea, Id have to say that calling a brand garbage because its not TNT is pretty naive. I think its funny how you and all your friends at the track have that mentality. Ive seen MANY nitrous kits by NX that havent broken and still make GREAT power. Im talking, some really great gains. I just find that humorous, that is all...

 

Nice logic buddy!...I can't say I share your opinion, but to each his own!

Miguel

 

I personally have always run NOS kits, on my past 4 cars ( 86GT, 88 LSC, 92 saleen and now my 00GT) and never had any problems at all with any of the kits and was always satisifed with the results. The only thing is their jetting charts are way off. What they list as a 125 shot on my 00 GT with the 05116 kit was only putting out 75 Hp so we upped the ante and now it puts out a true 125 at the RW and have been through about 20 passes with stock timing and it never gave me any problems. and the a/f is fine, just has a very small lean spike on the initial hit like all returless cars do, but we compensated for that in my tune.

 

hey guys how many miles are on your cars? mine has about 90k and i would like to run atleast a 100 shot or better, do you all think it will hold up? :dontknow:

 

Nitrous wont hurt anything if it's done correctly, and the shot isn't too big.... people blow stuff up cause they are stupis lol

 

so a dry 100 shot is safe? SWEET!!!!!!!! :hello2:

 

My F150 had 93k on it. I had been spraying it with a wet 150 shot since it had 50k on it.

Just to give you a hint. And my 99 F150 was a 4.6 2valve incase you dont know about them trucks.

 

Sweet! ill be ordering a Venom 1000 as soon as i save up some money? And with it being self tuning is it a good idea to have the car dyno tuned or is it ready to go as soon as i do the install and fill the bottle? Sorry about all the questions, its just im new to nitrous. I wanted a kenne bell for as long as i can remember but my wallet disagrees :sad10: , and nitrous seems to be a cheaper alternative!!

 

I think you'd be alright running the nitrous. The Venom kit is rather new to the domestic scene...but I have seen it's sucess on many of my good friends import cars.

To be honest if your looking for a simple bulletproof no-nonsense all HP system go for the NX wet kit....or a Direct port system if the wallet allows.
If you want to be different, try something new, and try to make it work....and have a "safe" kit (even though I have almost had problems with mine, not for sure though) You can get the venom VCN 1000 or 2000 (Programmable with progressive nitrous controller and stages if I remember correctly...sleak system.)

You will only be able to run ~75 shot safely on the stock 19lbers and fuel pump in the GT's...and will require an upgrade. An upgrade in Injectors (which is a necessity to make the most use of your Nitrous will require a tune anyway.)

It's always best to get the car on a dyno when making significant changes. No matter what make sure you get a Fuel safety shutoff switch, window switch, and Full throttle micro switch integrated into whatever system.

A bottle heater, purge, and gauge are extra's...but helpful. Once you feel the bottle hit at 1000 psi you'll wonder what you did before a bottle heater.

check out www.dynotune.org for many high quality nitrous accessories and information.

Hope this helps...and also check out this thread as it has a little more info.

#1 mustang customer also has a couple sticky posts about nitrous and the venom kit in one of these tech forums.

Philip K.

 

thanks for the info!!

 

Hey Blake! I highly recommend you dont go back to the platinum plugs! with the spray! Try NGKS TR6s they are a great plug, I run them all year long and you know how much ive been experimenting with this Kit! When i do change them there not even in bad condition I am still running the stock Tune also :violent1: They might be needing some changing after this season cause I upped the shot? If your plugs are goin bad after using these plugs then there is something else wrong possibly in your tune :icon_scra

Will

 

As long as you do it correctly lol