Try to get some before and after #'s if you can.

 

I will. It might be a while because Im going to install the cams myself and then they quoted me $1850 to install the heads.

What nitrous kit from NX are you running 03gtmustang? Those are some crazy torque numbers!

 

nitrous always returns MUCH more tq than the hp rating of the shot. HP ratings are usually about dead on to the shot size. Wet kits are the best for making power like that. Dry shots are best reserved for smaller shots.

 

So you have to install the cams into the heads first. VT wouldnt do it? Im running a NX EFI kit. The nozzle kit, not the plate kit.

 

that intake looks really cheap and is about 100 bucks more than the polished version of the PP intake seen here http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8dynotune.htm

 

Ok cool. Yeah they said they dont do that....it surprised me.

someone tested it and got no improvement of horsepower.

https://mustangboards.com/modular-4-...ead-first.html

 

i don't think one person's bad results should be the final word on a product... besides.... the hps intake seems like that exact same design, you would think it would have the same problems (if any exist). is there any test results from someone not affiliated with the company? That person you mentioned is also running 500+ hp on a stock shortblock, I wouldn't be surprised if he's losing power due to some internally related problem.. I'd like to retest the intake personally but everyone's gonna have to wait a year or so, gonna be "out of town" for a while.

I think the intake would be beneficial to anyone considering a turbo kit.. from what I've read the stock PI intake doesn't allow turbo's on 2v's to make much power past 4500rpms.

 

Apache46 enough conjecture. You clearly don't know jack about either intake. The HPS design is totally different than the PP design (the PP unit is a copy in aluminum of the stock plastic one), the HPS is nowhere near cheap in quality, manufacture or workmanship. Before you go defaming someone's product... test it.

The guy that tested it on a stock block 4.6 at 500rwhp did a poor job of setting up the test and he was losing power already. I've got a copy of the PP intake and several other PP parts coming in specifically for testing purposes that a couple guys from this board and I will be testing in a more scientific regime.

I've been working with both companies for over a year. They both make a good product that answers specific needs. When you've tested one or even gotten close to one, then you can insult it all you want. Till then, don't act like an authority.

 

acting like an authority??? it's called my opinion, and based on the HPS website I was linked to, there was no hard data given, no details given that would give me or anyone else reading reason to think that its any different than any other product. Based on a few pictures, it SEEMS to be a similar product. Since you ARE affiliated someway with the company or atleast the design process, maybe you can describe in detail the different ways this product is different. IMHO i can't see buying a no-name product for 100 bucks more than a competitors product that looks better and has provided design details (shorter runners and a removable portion for porting hardly seems like an exact copy of the original.) and proper testing data that's back by reputable magazines. So until you provide some sort of data, you stop acting like an authority.

 

This thread is about heads guys. If you want to talk about intakes then start a new thread.

 

apache, start a thread asking about the differences and I'll school you up good and proper. Until then you've got no data but you're making statements as fact which are not. Seems like conjecture to me.

And yes, I've been involved with the design of several intakes, so you should be a little humble knowing who you're speaking with.

03gtmustang, you're right. I apologize.

 

Thanks man, no problem.

 

I can't believe VT wouldn't put there cams on the heads before they shipped them. That doesn't make any since to me. I wonder why that is.