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Old 08-18-2005, 11:41 AM
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The gas cap in the middle is just for looks to be like the 60's style. It's non-functional. Even after getting rid of the fake side scoops and hood scoop, seems like ford had to had something non-functional on the stang.
 
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make it all functional danny.
 
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:33 AM
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First off, the 05 is awesome. Retro look, brand new design, not built off the platform of another Ford car. 64 was a Falcon, 74 was a Pinto, 79 was a Fairmont, 94 also Fairmont, 99 same design principles. 05 Brand new off the drawing board. No other maker has done that to their muscle cars.
As far as the wheels go, the factory has always known that the consumer will buy new wheels. No matter how good looking they are, the customer always buys new wheels to change the look.
65 K-code mustang, rally rims with chrome trim rings. They were always replaced, most of the time with Cragar SS wheels. Their cars also came out of the factory with skinny tires. Wanna guess why? They always got replaced.
I have owned every generation Mustang and the 05 is by far the best handling and comfortable Mustang built to this day. It's built longer for a smoother ride although it is heavier, but they added horsepower to compensate.

Is it the best Mustang ever? Not really, but I do like the feel when I get in an 05. It has the looks of a 67 inside. (kinda). The dash and pod configuration is pretty cool.It's an awesome car. But I still like my 99-04 GT for power but I will always love the look of the 86.
But hats off to Ford for the brand new design and technology and the desire to keep us motorheads wanting Mustangs!!
 
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Originally Posted by ShakerScoops
First off, the 05 is awesome. Retro look, brand new design, not built off the platform of another Ford car. 64 was a Falcon, 74 was a Pinto, 79 was a Fairmont, 94 also Fairmont, 99 same design principles. 05 Brand new off the drawing board. No other maker has done that to their muscle cars.
how is the body a new design if it's retro? it's still based off another car.
 
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cobra4123
how is the body a new design if it's retro? it's still based off another car.
Only the body style my friend, It has completely new frame design and suspension design as well as engine design.
Every other mustang ever made was based on a previous frame and suspension design of another Ford car.
It has always been a new body on an old frame design, this time it is an old (kinda) body, on a new frame design.
 
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i just want a new design completely. then that would be truely inovative
 
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i just want a new design completely. then that would be truely inovative
I'm right there with you!!! But until then, I'll keep driving the old stuff hard and fast!!!
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Personally, I like the new look. I think they got what they wanted with the retro thing. BUT...I don't think it looks mean enough. That's what I like about the '99-'04's, they look plain angry. So, rather than buy the new shelby that's coming out, I'm probably going to end up getting an '04 Cobra.
 
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Have you noticed the inside of the 05? It’s all hard plastic!!! What a cheap rip not to add some $ to the interior. And the gages are too far sunk in… I totally hate the interior; the exterior is okay for the most part.

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ps: sorry to dig this up again... I was on travel for a couple days
 
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Have you noticed the inside of the 05? It’s all hard plastic!!! What a cheap rip not to add some $ to the interior. And the gages are too far sunk in… I totally hate the interior; the exterior is okay for the most part.
Well if they add $$ into the interior the sticker price goes up, the Mustang was never designed to be a BMW, its a Ford for gods sake.

The 05 Mustang interior is soooo much better than the older ones. While the styling is purely personal preference the 05 mustang is better mechanically and build wise in every way than the previous models.
 
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Originally Posted by Shaker242
Have you noticed the inside of the 05? It’s all hard plastic!!! What a cheap rip not to add some $ to the interior. And the gages are too far sunk in… I totally hate the interior; the exterior is okay for the most part.

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ps: sorry to dig this up again... I was on travel for a couple days
Then you must really hate the 67 and 68 Mustangs because the 05 interior gauges are almost exactly what they were in 68. Guess you really had to be there to appreciate the true muscle cars!!
 
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Originally Posted by ShakerScoops
Then you must really hate the 67 and 68 Mustangs because the 05 interior gauges are almost exactly what they were in 68. Guess you really had to be there to appreciate the true muscle cars!!

Your right, I wouldn't have liked those either... but they could have paid more attention to interior comforts while their competitors do both jobs fairly well. In all, I'm not happy with the 05 – I think Ford let their consumers down, especially for the price.

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Originally Posted by Shaker242
Your right, I wouldn't have liked those either... but they could have paid more attention to interior comforts while their competitors do both jobs fairly well. In all, I'm not happy with the 05 – I think Ford let their consumers down, especially for the price.

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Have you ever looked at a 68 or 69 Camaro? The interiors are virtually the same as the Mustang. Also, take a look at late model Camaros. They had one of the cheesiest interiors around.
I know the auto makers are trying to save money and they the same pieces for all models.The dash vents for example.
Let's take the Neon SRT 4 for example. Same cheesy interior, loud, frame flex but fast as hell. You pay 24,000 for the car after mark up etc.
Bang for the buck factor shows that the Mustang is the only car that can give you power and decent comfort for that kind of money.The problem is that everyone wants to do 130 mph while holding the steering wheel with one finger and sip a cup of coffee without spilling on themselves.
That's not what past or present muscle cars is all about.
Considering that Ford is the only one making a true muscle car right now, I think they are doing a great job.And if they are truly letting the consumer down, how come they had to up production to meet demand. Statistics show that for every Mustang rolling off the truck this year, the average sale time is about 10 seconds per car. Pretty impressive to me!! Just my opinion though.
 
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Road & Track reports that Mustang sales are up 47% over the 2004 anniversary year sales. To me however, the exterior look of the car is what’s selling it… let’s face it, it has a true muscle car look and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to own once of these new body style head turners. I rented one (GT) for a weekend during a business trip and enjoyed the ride quality too… however, this doesn’t change the fact the Ford didn’t “posh” the interior. On the other side of the spectrum is the GTO by Pontiac, a 400hp car that looks like a GrandAm mated with a Neon. However, here the interior is very well styled with attention to details for the rear passengers as well, to include rear bucket styled seats. I’d never own one of these mainly because the exterior is so generic Pontiac.

When the new Ford Mustang saturates the market the look will relax and be less of a head turner, then Ford may pay more attention to the interior styling. Just with all the hard plastic it reminds me of a cheap Civic from the 80’s. Obviously no one has to agree with me, but knowing what/what-not the 05 has to offer makes me happier to be a 04 owner. Many years from now – who knows where my car purchases will take me, but if I’m going to shell out that big dollars it has to appeal to me as a complete package and not just what it'll look like parked in my driveway. If you already own one of these new models – I’m not busting on you, but rather am personally dissatisfied with Ford only delivering 2/3’s of a complete package; same goes with Pontiac.

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I would take this one
 
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Originally Posted by Shaker242
Road & Track reports that Mustang sales are up 47% over the 2004 anniversary year sales. To me however, the exterior look of the car is what’s selling it… let’s face it, it has a true muscle car look and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to own once of these new body style head turners. I rented one (GT) for a weekend during a business trip and enjoyed the ride quality too… however, this doesn’t change the fact the Ford didn’t “posh” the interior. On the other side of the spectrum is the GTO by Pontiac, a 400hp car that looks like a GrandAm mated with a Neon. However, here the interior is very well styled with attention to details for the rear passengers as well, to include rear bucket styled seats. I’d never own one of these mainly because the exterior is so generic Pontiac.

When the new Ford Mustang saturates the market the look will relax and be less of a head turner, then Ford may pay more attention to the interior styling. Just with all the hard plastic it reminds me of a cheap Civic from the 80’s. Obviously no one has to agree with me, but knowing what/what-not the 05 has to offer makes me happier to be a 04 owner. Many years from now – who knows where my car purchases will take me, but if I’m going to shell out that big dollars it has to appeal to me as a complete package and not just what it'll look like parked in my driveway. If you already own one of these new models – I’m not busting on you, but rather am personally dissatisfied with Ford only delivering 2/3’s of a complete package; same goes with Pontiac.

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I see your point.Both cars have stuck with what their heritage was. The Mustang has always been a car built for 2 even though it had a back seat. The GTO follows it's heritage as it has always been a bigger and wider car.
The GTO is also quite a bit more expensive than the Mustang. It really boils down to a matter of "you get what you pay for".
Ironically I grew up racing nothing but Mopars and drove Mustangs as my daily drivers. But since Chrysler went totally Mercedes, I have come back to driving and racing only Fords. Ford for what I need, Ford delivers in every way that I need them too. It's just my personal preference. I see what you are saying and completely respect your opinion.
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I might have to change my opinion on them now.My wife and I just looked at a white 2006 V6 with the pony package that is sweet.Going to take off work Monday and possibly buy it
 
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No not for me,for my wife.Two Mustangs would be nice.
 
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I would take this one
blah I like the color!!! I havent found an 05 that i would consider buying!
 
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My dad has an 05 gt.

Jet black with a red/black leather interior.

Its an amazing car, its so powerful and fun to drive (I know I drive a V6, but the new gt has what? 300 horses stock?). The interior isnt cheap looking at all to me, it looks very high class, I dont like the e-brake though. Thats the only thing I think is ugly on the car. I am partial to the 99-04 mustangs of course and I think ford could have gotten a better design but these cars are not as bad as everyones making them out to be.
 
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This is what the one we are looking at looks like.
 
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I totaly am 100% satisfied with my 05 roush
Parellie tires on GT were deigned specifacly for the gt by parellie
I came in first place at A ford show and shine in the73-present mustang
HMMMM seems majoraty like it.

They also now sell front and rear panels so you can make your older mustangs look like a 05
 
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Originally Posted by Shaker242
Your right, I wouldn't have liked those either... but they could have paid more attention to interior comforts while their competitors do both jobs fairly well. In all, I'm not happy with the 05 – I think Ford let their consumers down, especially for the price.

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05 interior and comfort feel like a race car and I love it. If you want luxury buy a caddlilac. That's what my wife drives
 
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05 interior and comfort feel like a race car and I love it. If you want luxury buy a caddlilac. That's what my wife drives
AMEN!!
 
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Originally Posted by toolttime
I totaly am 100% satisfied with my 05 roush
Parellie tires on GT were deigned specifacly for the gt by parellie
I came in first place at A ford show and shine in the73-present mustang
HMMMM seems majoraty like it.

They also now sell front and rear panels so you can make your older mustangs look like a 05
your mustang is a roush and has after market parts on it to make it look better. i'e 1/4 windows covered, fog lights in the bumper, hood scoop, bigger wheels. etc.... these are all of the things we said were wrong with the 05 fixed by roush.
 
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Oops, I guess I should have read this before joining and posting pictures of my car. I guess I thought a Mustang is a Mustang and we could all get along
 
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Originally Posted by azlitigator
Oops, I guess I should have read this before joining and posting pictures of my car. I guess I thought a Mustang is a Mustang and we could all get along
probally the smartest thing said in this yet. maybe we're jealous just some styleing cues that's all.
 
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Here is a new thread in Smack Talk enter at your own risk.
 
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New thread noted and comment made. I'll repeat some of what I said there....I'm not 100% satisfied with the car, to me there are many things I wish they'd have done differently, but all in all, this car was the only thing that got us on a Ford lot.
 
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:04 PM
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With all the discussion of head/fog lights, baloon tires, etc., it boils down to this. The 05 mustang looks like a car in the body shop ready to be painted. Stripped down, bland, and then accidentally sprayed with a glossy primer. It goes from there directly to the showroom without putting anything back on. Except for the 3valve GT, it has nothing. I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase either an 04GT "maroon" vert w/white top & white leather seats or a similiar 05 hardtop GT which was red. Placed them side by side and the 04 blew the 05 away, no contest. It should have been the other way around considering the 05"s forty additional HP and much better riding/driving abilities. In 3 or 4 years the Mustang will look so much better through natural evolution and will be what stangers really want. The point is: FORD is looking at what the 05 & 06 owners are doing to customize their cars and because they haven't an original idea in their collective heads, FORD will copy you, (the 05 & 06 Mustang owners) and your voices will eventually be heard if FORD still exists. Incidentally, some 05s have a terrible problem with heat sink, and we know heat is an engine killer.
 


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