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Old 07-25-2010 | 07:18 PM
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I bought an axle off of a friend that just bought a 98 cobra.

He got it with the deal and I came and looked at it offered him 300 bucks, and took it home.

He said it came out of a 98 GT, but the caliper mounts were EXTRA tall, so I guess those brackets I have are for cobra brakes. Anyways I had to switch those out.

I had to take both rears apart, and I found out that rear I bought was completely built with ford racing gears and its got a 3.73 in it. It has the squiggly T-lock in the center of it.

He seen me in town the other day getting my lube and oils for the rear and came up to me n said, " I just went to the drag strip and got offered 800 bucks for that rear end i sold you from the previous owner"

So obviously I got a really good deal and somebody out there really wants that rear I got.

I've learned alot of things.

I had one problem. and that was the caliper mounts, which you should always check before doing the swap. Cause I got my 8.8 mounted and then the brake setup didnt work, so i had to remove everything with it in the car, and did an easy job on my 7.5 while it was out of the car.

I had a problem sliding the axle pin back in because spyder gears didnt want to line up, but i rotated the axles and they worked fine.

Anyways, after driving it, I'm not too impressed with a 3.73 in an automatic. But It'll be there for when my auto goes out and I add a 5speed.

Just figured I'd vent after the 3 day job. Thanks for all the help guys, and especially redneck.
 

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Old 07-25-2010 | 08:14 PM
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That is why we tell people 4.10's for an auto car for sure!
 
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Old 07-25-2010 | 08:31 PM
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Glad to hear you got everything straightened out.
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 08:29 AM
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Really happy that worked out for you. It's a lot simpler in there than it would seem isn't it.
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Yup! Just the 8.8 is a little trickier to deal with cause the T lock, it puts alot of pressure on the spyder gears and when u roll the differential they want to move out of place just as much as a piece of paper thick and its hard to get the pin back in.
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 02:25 PM
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Nice work man. Yeah I sometimes wish I would have gone with 4.10's too, they really are the way to go with an automatic. I enjoyed now having a posi more than anything else with the swap.
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 05:29 PM
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I've drove it all day today and it feels great. Just my speedo is bad off.. Sometimes 5mph sometimes 8mph. Can dealerships calibrate them?

I love the posi, I can take out of places now quick and not one wheel peel.

Also I'm more impressed with the 3.73 than I thought. Its really good for the hills around here. But still 4.10 for more performance.

I put around 60FL Oz's of grease in it, I think thats what it calls for.

My spacers should be in soon..

Also driving without that warped axle feels sooo great now!!
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 06:32 PM
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I had 3:73 gears in my auto and was happy with it. I drove all highway and interstate and wanted to keep the rpms down a little bit. 4:10 gears are the way to go in an auto though. In my 5spd I think the 3:73 gears are going to be perfect becuase I find that I want the rpms a little higher on average, I also drive less highway/interstate miles now.
 
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Old 07-26-2010 | 07:45 PM
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Don't you have a tuner?
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 02:24 AM
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No, But I need to get one. But only the livewire looks interesting to me. I'll probably order one soon. Any reccomendations on which one?
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 04:56 PM
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-s...tool-9410.html

if you dont have 500$ to dish out atm.
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 05:09 PM
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**** the speedo thing, id just bite the bullet and buy SCT Xcal3 for 380.
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 06:03 PM
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3.90's for auto.
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 08:05 PM
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**** that livewire crap. Get a xcal 2 or 3 and move on. They all do the same ****. It's the tune file inside that matters!
 
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Old 07-27-2010 | 09:51 PM
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those larger brake brackets you have are worth a couple bucks through ebay. I'm sure there is someone out there trying to piece together a cobra rear brake set up on the cheap.

I drove around for about a year with my gear ratio not corrected. My car shows more miles on the odometer than the car actually has. My car has 96k miles showing. I installed gears at 52k miles and I drove 15k miles before I had it corrected. So, if someone feels like factoring all of that info than let me know how many ACTUAL miles are on my car, k thx bye.

My car is an auto too. I dont think I ever bounced the limiter from late shifts but it definately shifted around 6k rpms. Gt's have a 5800 redline, I think?
 
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Old 07-28-2010 | 12:16 PM
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Sweet. I'll prob pick me a Xcal3 up. Cause even if the ford dealership could do the calibration theyd prob charge out the ***.

And yeah I'll sell those cobra mounts. All they are is just taller versions of the stock ones. What are they worth?
 
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Old 07-28-2010 | 12:29 PM
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I know I love my 8.8. Recently had it re-built as the clutches were slipping.
 
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Old 07-28-2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by krenogin
Sweet. I'll prob pick me a Xcal3 up. Cause even if the ford dealership could do the calibration theyd prob charge out the ***.

And yeah I'll sell those cobra mounts. All they are is just taller versions of the stock ones. What are they worth?
Give the parts department at a stealership a call and tell them the part number off of the brackets you have for a price inquiry. That will give you an idea of how much to charge for them. If I remember correctly they are about 150-160 for the set or each.
 
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Old 07-28-2010 | 05:07 PM
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I've been fooling around with my new wheelspacers, and those things are SHITTY AS THEY GET. I think theyve caused me to glaze my rear rotors. All I know is they got ******* hot after driving it with them, and they made my car shake like a bitch........... I'm gonna finger tighten every single lug and see what I get.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stanger00
those larger brake brackets you have are worth a couple bucks through ebay. I'm sure there is someone out there trying to piece together a cobra rear brake set up on the cheap.

I drove around for about a year with my gear ratio not corrected. My car shows more miles on the odometer than the car actually has. My car has 96k miles showing. I installed gears at 52k miles and I drove 15k miles before I had it corrected. So, if someone feels like factoring all of that info than let me know how many ACTUAL miles are on my car, k thx bye.

My car is an auto too. I dont think I ever bounced the limiter from late shifts but it definately shifted around 6k rpms. Gt's have a 5800 redline, I think?
44k - ratio-delta% (if you have 4.10's then about 21%) + original miles = ~86700 actual miles.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by krenogin
I've been fooling around with my new wheelspacers, and those things are SHITTY AS THEY GET. I think theyve caused me to glaze my rear rotors. All I know is they got ******* hot after driving it with them, and they made my car shake like a bitch........... I'm gonna finger tighten every single lug and see what I get.
Why would you finger tighten them dude? Get a ****** impact wrench and torque them down hard. I dunno about you guys but when it comes to lugnuts, i torque the **** out of them cause i know it wont hurt and i know i dont have the strength to break them.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 10:23 AM
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The ONLY wheel spacers that work without stripping your **** is going to be maximum motorsports. Wheel spacers in general though are junk.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 11:05 AM
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Lug nuts only need about 90 ft-lbs.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 12:18 PM
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Okay well, good news and bad news.

The wheelspacers arent shitty as originally thought, thats the good news.

The bad news is, both axles are warped. I jacked my car up, said F it, and put it in gear and watched the axles spin. You can even see the ABS ring spin with a little warp to it. SO with those axles being warped, the wheel spacers were multiplying how warped they feel. I took em off today and It drove much better than it did yesterday. also my brakes are chirping alot because the rotors being fouled up inside the calipers.

I gotta get axles............................... Found a pair of 94-98 28 spline ones from LMR for 190 with 10 studs. So I'll be getting that soon.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 08:38 PM
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your axles from your 7.5 will work.
 
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Old 07-29-2010 | 08:40 PM
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Its a 98 rear end so they'd be too long, but I bought this whole rear end because my 7.5's axles were warped.

I ordered me a set of 94-98 28 spline axles with studs for 200$$.

Just gonna have a fight getting that ABS ring off.
 
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Old 08-03-2010 | 07:47 PM
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Get the xcal to fix the speedo. If you get it from AM youll get free tunes as well. Im not sure how much of a difference it will make in your v6, but in my gt the tune was well worth it. Plus you can clear and read DTC's
 
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Old 08-04-2010 | 06:43 AM
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cool, ya i think with the 99-04, yall should go with 4.10's cuz dont yall have 3.27's stock???

i know for me 3.73's were perfect because my stock gears were 2.73's
 
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Old 08-05-2010 | 12:08 AM
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Just installed my new axles. They were YUKON axles.

The install went AMAZINGLY PERFECT.

All my studs pressed in fine, but i had to kill 4 lug nuts.

My abs ring believe it or not popped off EASY. -- I knocked all the old studs out of the old axles, and put a 1/4 inch drive extension thru the stud holes and knocked around in a circle till it fell off, and i pressed it back on using 3 c-clamps and a vise to hold it for me. It looked retarted but its on.

My rear end grease came out clean, there were a couple metal shavings on a magnet in the back of the rear, but this is a freshly rebuilt rear with a new diff unit and all that.

Topping it all off with royal purple tomorrow, and buying 4 lug nuts.

Thanks for the support and ideas everyone! And special thanks to Redneck!
 
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Old 08-05-2010 | 12:16 AM
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Holy **** after I did all this, I just found out that 7.5 and 8.8 rears use the same axles............................................. .....

I wouldnt have done this swap if I had known that!! Because AM listed the moser axles as 8.8 only. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. I guess I shouldve asked.

But anyways, I'm happy to have a fully built 8.8 that makes my car faster.
 



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