Taking the classes at least...then I suppose I apply, pay and wait. Any permit holders on the board? I know a few of you are. Ill be carrying my 92FS Beretta...I know not a great conceal gun but its all I have. What can I expect from the classes?

 

I know this doesnt help but I wish I had the option to get a CCW. I just live in a state that doesnt issue them like they're candy. I think the last time I looked for some information, I seen that my current county only issued 400 permits last year. Over a million people live in this county.

 

Not sure it has to be concealed, if you have a permit to carry it. I know a dude who walks around with his .44 magnum strapped to his hip like in the western days. Maybe it's different from state to state.

 

My dad just bought a Beretta 96 .40 and I plan on going with him when he takes the class soon. We shot it not too long ago and it was the shiznit. I put 100 rounds down and found it a little to powerful for me to completely handle, but was my first time shooting a handgun.

The classes are 12 hours in TN, which can be completed in one day or broken up between two. Expect to learn any basics on gun safety and handling, operation of a hangun and range time to develop your shooting skills.

 

ohio is open carry for all adults. But if you do it, and people get scared over it, you can get arrested for inducing panic or some ****.

 

it was the same here in Michigan. You could get in trouble for "brandishing" or disturbing the peace.

However now that is not the case and open carry is 100% legal you just cant have a chambered round. That means anybody rocking a wheel gun has to do with one less round than capacity.

 

I got my CCW a few months ago. Florida is pretty laxed in its gun laws. I only had to take a three hour gun safety/handling class. At the end of the class everyone had to fire 7 rounds at a target with safe handling procedures to pass the class.

Not saying you can't carry the 92 but I bet you look for a much smaller replacement in the near future. That is if you plan to carry often. I carry a Glock 27 or a Ruger LCP whenever I legally can. After you take the course try to find out if there are any regional offices dedicated to processing CCW permits. Getting a permit issued can take up to three months going throught the normal "mail in" process. My instructor informed the class of the local regional offices and I received mine in 2 weeks. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

 

thanks for the tip about the regional office for the permit. Ill ask about it.

 

Permitted in 30 states, just not the one I live in. Kalifornia is a discretionary state. We do have open carry but that's interfered with by local ordinances in many cities/towns.

Expect a lot of discussion of what is a legal shoot situation. Some total bullshit from the instructor about a .45acp being so powerful that if you get hit in the thumb you're going down (my CCW instructor actually said that. What a ******* asstard.). A little bit about gun safety, a quick qualification session, miles of paperwork, and some more discussion about the legalities and requirements of the actual concealment (if someone sees your gun in CA and reports it, you can lose your CCW permit right there).

A 92F is a full size DUTY gun. Not a CCW gun. I know from experience how difficult it is to conceal properly. You'll display all the "tells" of someone carrying a large frame pistol concealed. I would recommend something considerably smaller OR that you invest a couple hundred bucks in a PROPER holster for that gun designed with concealment in mind. The holster needs to smooth out the bulge and keep that handle snug up against you to keep it under cover.

AZ is seriously open carry friendly. **** it. Carry a full size smack on your hip, or a AR-15 slung over your back. I'd spend a lot more time carrying my M1 Carbine if I could get away with it.

Go to Front Sight (frontsight.com) and take the 30 state class. They'll be a lot more keen to issue if you've been thoroughly trained by a school they like. Gunsite is in AZ too, that's another great school.

It sorta depends. Most states require unloaded guns for open carry. Concealed carry is done with a loaded gun. Unless you're hunting it's illegal in most places I've ever been except Arizona to openly carry a loaded firearm. And it's usually illegal to carry a loaded gun within city limits (again except for AZ) without it being 1, concealed and 2, permitted.


See... that's handy dandy info. I've always applied for out of state permits so it's always been the epic mail delays. Utah is pretty cool about it though.

 

Passed my class...passed the background checks...(i did my own, hope the local SO sees the same one I did)

 

Congrats Zig. The G26 is a great gun and will serve you well.

 

Thanks.

I hope to get one some day.

 

Whats teh lighter for? lol

 

to light my cigs with

 

O I C!!! lol Dayum that gun is Small! I could conseal that between my belly fat rolls!

 

I almost tried to attempt getting a gun but my wife gave me the "LOOK"...so I never got one...yet.

 

thats the idea.

Your wife should consider getting one herself.

 

I use to have a small .380 similar to that. Gaadaam thing used to chew up my thumb knuckle if I wasn't holding it right. Does the whole top part slide back when it fires?? That's what mine did..

 

as do all semi auto pistols.

 

Same boat. I'm really instinctive with a 1911 but the possibility that it could become too much to deal with or snag in a combat situation was/is too real. Apart from the fact that it weighed over 5lbs with 8 rounds in it. Glocks proved much easier to deal with when I can wear appropriate concealment clothing.

Guys built like me don't conceal guns easily.

Just tell her that the average police response time is between 8-14 minutes in most good neighborhoods to high priority crimes and you'd like to come home to her sitting down handcuffed and crying out on the lawn a lot more than under a white sheet surrounded by yellow tape.

I have a similar argument with my wife. She's squeamish about knowing how to really severely hurt someone and lacks the killer instinct. I've spent years trying to get her properly trained so that she can default to her training and inflict those severe trauma wounds rather than panic. It's uphill work but you keep at it.

She has no qualms about using "safe room" procedures and her assault rifle but she's really hesitant to work on the room to room and house clearing training and she does not like handguns.

You were not holding it right. Please watch the following instructional video and really really practice making the hold demonstrated into a mechanical if not instinctive hold. It's important. Just holding your gun wrong puts you at a disadvantage at the very moment that it's most needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQgLmQl1zDw

There is exactly 1 way to properly control a large caliber semi-auto pistol (outside of particular competition circuits). It's in the video above.

With really only a handful of exceptions that's true. Even those exceptions don't matter which makes zig doubly correct.

If you put your weak side thumb over your gripping hand you're going to lose a piece of it.

 

LOL, That video showed me where I fucked up. I didn't rotate my thumb forward. And I tore skin off my firing hand 2 maybe 3 times and cussed out the gun.. I can shoot a revolver all day long, and not hurt anything cept my pride, while shooting my brother in laws .44 long barrel. That thing is a monster, you have to aim a foot below something if you want to hit it.. And loud as hell too..

 

if you're aiming low to score a hit and the sights are otherwise on then you're probably jerking the trigger and anticipating recoil. Try to be surprised by the gun going off every time the trigger is pulled. You shouldn't be anticipating. Just let it happen. That's something that comes with looooooooong practice.

 

Im slowly overcoming this.

 

I used to try and shoot the .44 magnum one handed, Clint style. Gaadaam. Dam thing is like shooting a rifle one handed.. LOL...

 

That's exactly the sort of **** that induces a learned flinch. It's really hard to un-train that. My suggestion, go to a shooting range a couple times a week and just sit there with your eyes closed or facing away from the firing line and try to work on relaxing so the sound of any individual shot doesn't cause you to unconsciously blink. It'll take a while to desensitize yourself. Once you've got that mostly down, then pick up a .22 semi-auto and drop a handful of shells from a brick of ammo into a cup of coke for 24hrs to deactivate most of that handful, then dry them off and mix them up in your brick with the rest and go shooting.

Go to the range and load your mags like normal. Work on sight picture and trigger control and getting your stance and form down. Occasionally you'll come across a dead round. You'll be able to see yourself flinch when you get the dud and you'll be able to use the anticipation of another possible dud to focus yourself more on getting that front sight on the target and making a controlled press of the trigger.

Also: don't think you're a ***** if you don't like blasting .44's all day. The recoil hurts, it's a fine gun for its purpose but it's not a bloody plinker. You can cause permanent physical damage to your hand and wrist by shooting a gun that's just too damned much for you to handle. Part of manning up is manning up far enough to say no when the bite's too big.

While it's true that you can teach almost anyone of any stature to shoot a .44mag and handle it like a pro with no fear of the recoil and little perceived or actual pain, there's a HELL of a lot of getting-to-know-you time needed between lightweight shooters and the hoglegs that are so popular with the over macho types.

I have a 14" TC Encore pistol in .308 Winchester. It is a rifle cartridge in a pistol. It is everything listed under "pain" in the dictionary and slightly more. It's a little like getting your palm slapped by a pro arm wrestler with a 2" wide rattan cane. I also have a .444Marlin barrel for it of the same length. I can't begin to describe how painful shooting it is. Those are my answer to people saying "be a man" and handing n00bs .44's and the like. I hand them my TC and one of those barrels.

 

One of the reasons I like turtles.