Paintball gun though. Really wanting a gun that i can use for woodball, and speedball. Im using it mainly for recreational use, so around 300ish for the marker itself. Im kinda focusing on a tippman because i know they are solid and accurate, and can go through a damn good beating. I like the X7 but i know the 98 customs can still take a hammering. Any input appreciated.

 

A5, A5 and A5. You get the cyclone system of the X7, but without the price tag. I own three tippmann a5s and a 98C that has had about $100+ put into it. After a new bolt, polishing the internals, and a lapco big shot barrel with an APEX tip on it it'll spank my 98C's ***.

If you get an A5 and get the cyclone upgrade (softer cyclone paddles, new piston and valve, and new ratchet), get either and e-trigger or a response trigger (easy to find if you buy a used kit off of ebay since most people already have it on their gun) and the lapco barrel that I got you could easily have a dead on, quick-firing gun with no chopping whatsoever. Tippmann all the way, anything else is overpriced and not even as good usually (UNLESS you only play speedball and have tons of $$$$ to spend)

 

I was getting excited, then saw that paintball bullshit.

Thread title fail.

 

DON'T DO IT! LOL paintball puts such a drain on the wallet. If your more interested in Rec ball go with any of the Tippmanns. Tippmanns are rock solid and have tons of upgrades available. If you are going to do much (any) speedball I wouldn't recommend one especially not the 98 custom. I had a 98 custom with a response trigger and 14" DYE Boomstick that was awesome for rec but felt like a broom when playing speedball. For speedball I'm a huge fan of the Proto Matrix but that is more than $300

 

True. I got rid of my toy guns to make room for real guns I got my CCW yesterday and am looking forward to shooting my new Ruger LCP this week. /threadjack

 

I'll sell you my Tipmann 98 custom...I used it 5 times and still looks new. I keep it clean. I dont think I will ever use it again. No one I work with is into it.

 

I know, but its pretty damn fun. The A5 seems like it needs a good amount of upgrades before its good. Im not sure i want any kind of electronic trigger, because all my friends have em, and they have NON-STOP problems with their guns or boards.

 

The 98 needs more to keep up with the A5. Trust me, we play at least once a week every week without a single miss. My dad has a 98C that he's slowly modded out over the years, my new A5 I just bought I've only put $200 into, gun and all the parts, and have yet to be hit by him. We've been playing since last august.....

Think of it like mustangs.

98 = V6 (needs work but CAN be good)
A5 = GT (is fast enough for most people off the floor, but has SERIOUS easy potential)
X7 = Over-priced new GT500 (badass, but is still expensive for just a convenience)

Taa daa.

 

K, thats actually a pretty good comparison, lol. Considering that, if i were to buy an A-5, what would you recommend for it?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/TIPPMANN-A5-X7-T...item53de6b2663

Here's the barrel system I have. I've been using it for about 2 months now and love it more than anything else I've ever touched. I orignially had a barrel swapper that allowed me to flip barrels and switch between my flatline and my lapco snapshot, i had the flatline for range and the lapco for up close range.

The apex system allows you to use both. If you don't already know about it, the apex tip (the big black looking silencer thing) has a rubber bumper on the inside. You adjust the height of this bumper and it makes the ball curve more and more, plus the apex can swivel. So essentially you can have a flatline, giving the ball backspin, a drop shot (super sweet to just watch), and a curve shot either left or right (took out a buddy hiding behind a big tree with this once, I just curved the ball around the tree and hit him behind it). When you turn the APEX off, and set the bumper to lowest height the lapco barrel gives super accurate shots. I could hit a 1 inch wide pole at about 40-50 ft consistently.

For other things I'd look at an X7 low-profile hopper, and if you're going to get a scope I'd look at the offset stovepipe for the hopper as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RED-HOT-POWER-TU...item5ad70e0ecb

A very good bolt. Cheap too.

That's about it really, everything else is your decision as for as butt stocks and stuff go.

I will give some quick advice. If you do go for getting and using a scope like a red dot sight or something, watch what butt stock you get. I have the M16 butt stock and if I try and look through my red dot sight my mask doesn't let me. So if you get the M16 stock look for an offset sight rail or a 45 degree sight rail. If s different butt stock that doesn't get in the way then you don't have to worry about it.

I personally would stay away from e-triggers too. They only cause problems if you play in the wet, or at night with moisture in the air. They're more of a PITA than anything. And in my personal opinion I think you go through way too many paintballs with anything full-auto anyways. Its a waste. If you do want the availability to shoot full auto look at the response trigger, its powered through the excess CO2 instead of a battery and is still water proof. Of course if you do get either trigger you'll have to upgrade the cyclone hopper piece too, so it doesn't start breaking ***** when you try and shoot full auto.

 

I know whatcha mean with the E-Triggers, all my buddies are always like, my gun shoots 20-30bps cause of my trigger...... When it works. I do think the automatic feature would be cool but can you fit a double trigger on a response? If i went with an E trigg i wouldnt get a double but it seems with a response you would need a double. Info?

 

You can still fit a double trigger on there. No problem there. If do that, look at the hair pin kit from TechT. It shortens the travel distance of the trigger to hit the sweet spot. I just have the stock trigger and I'm still thinking about getting it.

Here's a link.

http://www.paintball-parts.com/TechT...-A5-p/2602.htm

There's always more stuff you can get, but it starts to get into a matter of whether or not it actually helps. Like people say to get a CO2 expansion so you won't use as much CO2, yet the science behind it says that it does't matter anyways lol. But thats for you to decide.

The main things are the barrel, and the bolt.

Oh and by the way, with the lapco bigshot barrel since its bigger than paintballs (paintballs are .68 cal, the barrel is .69) you can use pretty much any paintball and it won't chop. I haven't had a chop yet, even in below freezing temperatures and I'm just using Reaction Paintballs from wal-mart. They're cheap and work fine as long as you store them somewhere than doesn't change temps a lot. I wouldn't worry about buying some high dollar paintballs, its a gimmick game.

 

With the RT does the little cylinder bounce back everytime the bolt recoils? Im kinda confused how it works. Do you pull the trigger like halfway, or all the way down and it takes over?

 

No, it has a sort of "sweet spot" that makes it go full-auto. I believe it works almost exactly like the cyclone, you have a piston that just gets pushed back by the excess CO2 and this in terms makes the trigger "bounce" to give you the full auto. The hair trigger kit makes the sweet spot easier to hit with accuracy.

 

So if i slam down the trigger all the way and hold it there, it will only shoot once right? Also does the RT wear on your gun more? or is it about the same as an E trigg? I read up on the hair triggger and it says it can wear on the sear or hammer more, will it only do that if you put the wrong size in? Also i heard that when you have about 100 shots left, it can still run on semi auto without a harder pull right?

 

those guns suck. buy a real paintball gun




or you could surprise the hell out of your competition with one of these




teach them to cheat

 

These are the kinds of guns my friends have, that are all broken.

Also 08, is there any difference between the power tube you listed and this one? besides one has black and one has white? http://www.paintball-parts.com/JCS-B...-A5-p/9008.htm Also whats the benefits of doing that upgrade? Again i looked at the hairpin kit, it says for the A-5. Is there one for the X7?

 

I had an Angel speed that i played with for 2 years and never failed once. buddies played with autocockers, smartparts, Dye Dmwhatever..never had any more than your normal little issues.

tippman makes lame paintball guns. unless you're all into the whole 'pretend warfare sooper cool sniper gillie suit play in the woods all the time everytime' kind of deal. which is also lame. be a man, buy a good paintball gun and play speedball.

or go run around your friends backyard in 1980s BDUs with your tipmann a5 thinking you're a navy seal in training

 

I've got an impulse that I've only used..like twice that I'm looking to sell for fairly cheap with everything... idk if its what you're looking for, but i spent $370 in town..lookin to get $150ish for it.

 

Speedball seems pointless to me. Learn some Parkour and play speedball in apark or something. But running in a tiny area where you know where the other guys are is ******* pointless to me. Yes I have played, A LOT and I was part of an amateur team that made some cash (SOME being a big word).

But if you look at Oklahoma Paintball D-Day, thats some real ****. You're using tactics, not just shooting the fastest and knowing not to pop your head out.

What makes even less sense is that speedball requires less of a gun, yet the guns cost more....My tippmann is water proof, has an enclosed bolt, doesn't use batteries, and has gone through some serious ****. Find me a Dye or an Angel that can take half the **** my Tippmann does and I'll sell my A5s and buy an Angel, again.

Woodsball is the ****. Smoke grenades, gilly suits, night vision (my secret weapon), and barrels that can curve the ball makes it tactical. As close to real gun fights as you can get. But, everyone has their forte.

 

Also 08, is there any difference between the power tube you listed and this one? besides one has black and one has white? http://www.paintball-parts.com/JCS-B...-A5-p/9008.htm Also whats the benefits of doing that upgrade? Again i looked at the hairpin kit, it says for the A-5. Is there one for the X7?[/quote]

Nope same thing, it just helps with CO2 usage. Gives you a more accurate shot and more reliability that the stock bolt. Also helps to not chop.

As far as the RT trigger statement earlier you are correct. If the trigger is slammed all the way back it will just do once shot, but about 3/4 through the stock trigger travel it'll hit that bounce point and go full auto. The RT does not hurt the gun anymore than the e-trigger would, and as far as the hair pin trigger kit hurting the sear I don't see it hurting it that bad. I just ordered mine yesterday when I posted the link to you, so this weekend if they come in I'll let you know how it goes.

I would personally just use the RT if you REALLY want full auto. It does have a greater potential to put more wear on the gun, and if you're using CO2 its hard to get CO2 to keep up with the gun because CO2 doesn't have a very high pressure like HPA or Nitro.

So if its worth like 50-60 bucks to you then sure, but I have yet to be able to justify it. Most times I get lucky to pop my head up and get of three shots, much rather a full auto spray. Also, I prefer the one shot one kill. I've had some pretty sweet one shot headshots in the summer time when my gun is super super accurate. Full auto gives away my position too much, in my mind lol.

The hairpin kit I gave you the link to fits the 98, A5, and X7. And that kit works for stock triggers, RTs, and e triggers. I'll let you know if its worth it when I get mine installed.

 

k, all the above cleared allot up. Unless i start choppin ***** by some odd mishap, ill prbly look into that bolt. I need to find a group of guys that plays woodball more than speedball, most my friends like to play speedball, im more of a woodsball guy, because it is more like a real fight. I doubt ill invest in a ghillie suit unless i start playing allot more, and get a job. Ill most likely just buy the double trigger and see how it works for me, if i find i need full-auto ill invest in it. I would think that with a hairpin double trigger i could prbly hammer a good enough number of rounds out without worrying too much about paint waste. Mind post a pic of ur gun? I only use C02 because i cant find any good places to fill Compressed air tanks, and i dont have any tanks for compressed, i have an air compressor, 210gal. but i heard you need a high dollar compressor for it. And dude, speedball and parkour would be halarious but amazing to watch. I couldnt see justifying the use of smoke grenades unless in a tourny because those are probably pricey. Im afraid to ask how much ur night vision cost. My friends are all too young to get into it seriously, besides of course buying 400$ POS guns. And ill bet those 1shot headshots, your just like, YESSS!! and they are eating ****.

 

Haha yea, well considering most of my headshots have been against my dad (yea my 40-year old dad plays paintball, fun to watch lol) and he's gotten bumps on his head from the paintballs. Cracks my **** up everytime I get his head, I say it's because of the bald spot glowing in the night lol.

But yea I'll take some pictures when I get home tomorrow or saturday. I think a ghillie suit is kinda overboard, cool but requires an open place where you can seriously camp-out. My nightvision costed me a swift-kick-in-the-*** of $150, its a monocular with a 3x zoom but its cool as hell. I had this for another reason and found it when we were digging through all of our old guns (real guns, not paintball). I didn't buy it specifically for paintball lol, I'm not that much of a cheater (sometimes ).

Like you said, if the double trigger with the hair pin kit isn't good enough then you can get full-auto later on. The barrel and the gun itself is all you really need. As far as CO2 versus HPA, I still think HPA is overrated.

It is better, but it requires you to get it filled somewhere or have a high-pressured compressor and a tank (which costs about 4k). You can also use scuba tanks, but then that requires you to go get the scuba tanks filled so the same ****. Meanwhile, I have a 50lb. CO2 tank in my basement that I use to fill up my CO2 tanks and only have to refill it about once every six months if we play every week.

But, I'll get those pictures up this weekend. I can also post some of my buddies A5 that we polished out completely since his paint was peeling. So now its just brushed aluminum that I use some aluminum wheel polish on to shine it up. Looks pretty bad ***, and is the only brushed alum. A5 i've seen so far. Seen silver painted, but never just the bare aluminum.

 

Sounds sweet on the A5. I would try HPA but i dunno anyone that sells any. I might buy a big C02 tank but the only problem is idk how to use em. If my shots arent as accurate as i like, or i chop ever, ill prbly buy the 10$ bolt. Figure out if that hairpins any good yet?

 

Still haven't got it yet....its still in Miami lol. Slow ebay people.

But yea, I'd like to try HPA because it does have a much higher pressure and also no extra blowing out of the end of the barrel giving away your position during the day. But like I said I'd have to find somewhere to do it and then spend out the *** to get it done, nonetheless having to drive and get them filled up all the time.

 

Watcha mean have to spend allot to get it done? And yea ebay ftl.