Don't mess with that mans car...haha

No, I'm not talking down on S197s, they are just not what I want. I'm looking for a 4v Mustang which is either a Cobra or Mach, and a newedge specifically because I can use all of the mods I have on my V6 on it.

Wow, ever heard of personal preference? Jesus christ dude.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever sat in or driven a newer Stang? It honestly took me a long time to get into the '05+ the body style was just so different (same thing happened with the new edges) but the interior is just so much nicer. It's much more user friendly and the seats are so much more comfortable it's hard to believe. You can crank the seats down so low (which is good for me because I'm 6'4"), the cup holder are actually functional, IDK to me it is leaps and bouds ahead of the 94-04.. The ONLY thing I don't like about the 197's interior is the round vents in the middle, I realize that they are more functional than the rectangular vents, but they just look a little out of place, that's probably the best change from the '05-09 to the '10+.

Yes I've been in one, they are more comfortable, but I just can't look at one without thinking of how much sportier it could have been designed.. everything's just..square. I like my 90's designed plasticy curvy interior styling. I can live without creature comforts (honestly how usable the cup holders are is something that doesn't bother me as I don't allow open drinks in my car..just bottles, which can be put anywhere). I'm only 5'10 and am very comfortable in my stang.

Yeah..a couple of months ago it would have been the Mitsu logo, few months before that, the subaru logo, few months before that, the Built Ford Tough truck logo, few months before that, the ford oval.

Everyone has an opinion. He didn't come out and say BlueOvals car is a piece of shit or anything. Pretty sure there was no mention of you in his statement. I don't like the 05+ either. I think they are too big and too heavy especially for the power. An 01 cobra with 53,000 miles is nothing. So what if it's a cobra. A car is meant to be driven and not to sit in a garage somewhere and be rubbed down with a diaper everyday except for the once a week you pull it out of tha garage to wash it.

yeah we all know fishy has auto-identity crisis issues.

Whatever car he's driving at the moment is the most badass car on the planet... ever notice that?

I just think he likes to get those ^^ kind of comments, he just likes to get under peoples' skin lol.

As far as the '05+ goes, I just honestly think they are all around better cars. Yeah, they're a little heavier, big whoop. Guess it's all personal opinion though.

I have never compared the weight or overall length. It would be interesting to find out. Maybe I'll look it up later when I have more time. I know the wheelbase is longer which is what gives it the better ride. The only thing I am not crazy about on the 197's is the fender flairs. I think they could have done a better job molding them into the side a little better. Every body style has its pros and cons, and again, I love them all.

Okay well do you still hate me for no apparent reason? Haha

don't be mad you're not down with the toyo zig

No, man...were cool. LOL I just didn't see the "lol" at the bottom. I'll try to pay more attention from now on.

It doesn't happen often, but I agree with WNRacing. The 05+ stangs are better than the previous years when it comes to ride, engine ect.... But like everyone has said, it's personal preference.

A couple of years ago my wifes jeep was in the shop and they gave her a 5 speed 05 GT to drive. This is when I still had my Mach. I drove the HELL out of that GT and to be honest, the ride was a lot smoother than my Mach, but it wasn't really that close to being as fast as my Mach. Yeah it probably wasn't a very fair comparison since I was modded, but there after driving a 4v it seemed like the 3v signed off too fast.

Anyway, I still kick myself in the azz for getting rid of my Mach.

Oh by the way, that is not a lot of miles for an 01 Cobra.