I'm a total dork in many ways. Being a die hard star wars mega fan isn't one of them. I am however a SW purist and I feel left out for never having had the, "Who shot first, Han or Greedo?" argument, and I'm spoiling for a discussion of the matter.

So, I present the postulate: Han shot first.

Discuss.

 

Greedo shot first.

 

Han Shot first in the original films (the unaltered re-releases, pre 1997)

then in the Re-releases (post 1997) Greedo shoots first

Lukas's reasoning is that he wanted to show that Han had no choice to shoot greedo cause Han has a "Dead or Alive" bounty on his head.

EDIT: No, i didnt go to wiki to look this up. i am a pretty hardcore fan as well. i know someone from school that can tell you every little detail about the star wars universe: from every single book, video game, EVERYTHING...he has a room about 20x25 ish (part of his basement) full of books, videos, toys, collectibles)

 

I think someone should give the back story of the argument for the non-nerds. I like star wars, but I have no idea what is being talked about.

Edit: Ok I just went ahead and looked it up in Wikipedia, but whats the big deal about who shot first. Some kind of Jedi code or something?

 

BTW, one of the funniest videos I have ever seen involves Triumph the dog at a Star Wars convention.

If you have never seent his, watch it....just be ready to cry.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11...dog-star-w_fun

As far as who shot who, I say R2D2 did it with professor Mudd in the Cloak Room.

 

How about a follow up: Was anyone else horribly saddened by the production of Episodes 1-3? I mean I was ok not knowing who Jengo was, and never having had to listen to JarJar mix french, spanglish, and yoda-ish into moronic dialogue which was irrelevant to the story. I was happy knowing that vader was lukes dad and luke was totally into his sister and that was that. It's like he had to explain the whole of Episodes 4-6 with 1-3 which was totally unnecessary.

 

LMAO at truiumph

 

yeah the triumph dog is hilarious saw that a long time ago but its still funny

 

Last night I watched "An Empire of Dreams," the documentary about the idea/making and impact of episodes 4-6 with a short followup of 1-3, it made me happy. I love starwars. The DVD box set AFAIK has just the re-release versions with the digital stuff implanted. I haven't seen the original starwars' in years.

 

I have to completely disagree. Episodes 1-3 were completely necessary to explain Episodes 4-6. If your like me, you ask questions. After seeing 4-6 I wanted to know why Darth Vader was on the dark side, and why Luke and Leia were seperated from him and eachother. Why was he in that ridiculous suit? Why did he have chronic asthma? A million questions needed to be answered.

Personally i thought Episode 3 was the best episode out of the entire saga. It explained everything, and showed you exactly what led up to the empire. The fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan was just f'n bad ***.

I want Lucas to make episodes 7-9. I know he won't but its completely do-able. Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford are probably the same age now as they would be in the story. It should bring back the Dark Jedi, and completely eliminate the Sith and so on.

 

does every story you read or watch have to be explained from beginning to end? You'd have probably loved the ending to St. Elsewhere.

 

Obviously Lucas knew what he was doing making the 3 episodes. They were hits. They answered so many questions that almost every star wars fan was asking.

 

I have a question. Did George Luca really plan it out like that to make episodes 4-6 first and then years later make 1-3?

 

I think so

 

Not at first. I believe the first release of Episode 4 did not state that it was the 4th episode in the opening credits.

 

He dubbed it episode 4 before he started working on empire strikes back IRRC, it was in the documentary I watched.

 

Yeah but he didn't know if it was going to be a hit or not.

 

Well of course not, but after the huge success of the first one he had enough of his own money to immediately start on the second film. The budget for the empire strikes back was about twice as much as a new hope so he had the resources he needed to make a better movie.

 

Yeah but what im saying is he didn't decide to call it Episode 4 before it was successful. I'm almost positive he didn't even think about making episodes 1-3, 21-22 years down the road before making Episode 4.

 

It was still call Episode IV IIRC. He had the entire story line planned out and knew what he wanted to do.



nerd.

 

It was called A New Hope. In the first release the opening credits did not say Episode IV.

And i had to google search to find out what "IIRC" meant. nerd.

 

Whatever nerdfag.

 

 

This is my understanding and some interpretation of the SW bi-trilogies history.

Ep4 was just simply the easiest to make at the time and grew into a much larger story during writing as Lucas figured out the story was just too damned complicated to make a single episode. The history that takes place in ep.1-3 is mentioned throughout the series but no plan was made to make them until Lucas needed money after his divorce and decided that the CGI technology available was improving enough to pop the series back into life. A few quick slashes to the soul of the original trilogy, some bad acting from overly twiggy broads and jarjar's aforementioned language issues and bango. Millions in his pocket.

Well done George. If I give him 5 bucks I bet he'd be willing to draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa.

 

george lukas is truely a talented man. he created 2 extremely great series and is one of the most financially successful producers/writers ever. and the fact that harrison ford was in 6 of the greatest movies of all time makes him the most financially successful actor of all time.

it all started for Ford when he was building shelves for Lukas when ford was a carpenter. lol. how bout that for your tough break

 

I doubt he needed money even after his divorce. The man makes billions off of merchandising alone. Not to mention all the Indiana Jones films and stuff.

 

when your expenses are what his are.. even with all the money he makes it's not hard to get cash strapped from a divorce.

 

Yeah because chicks take HALF....I repeat......HALF OF WHATEVER YOU HAVE!!!!!!! What's half of a billion......yeah even if you had a billion....HALF of it is gone.

oh and Star Wars sucks ballz!!!!

 

i wasnt including the divorce. how many has he been through? i know of only one which was cause by the making of the original series

 

he lost like 87 million dollars or some crap on that one. As far as I know that's his only divorce so far. In the 80's 80million bucks was an unthinkable fortune to most people.