Another Street Race Gone Bad
#31
02-17-2008, 10:14 AM
here...educate yourself a lil on tracks.... http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...s&search_type= ....sorry about your buddies but according to your own views they deserved it....cant pick and choose who your views apply to...
#32
02-17-2008, 11:49 AM
never said he wasnt at fault, he chose to race against everybody talking to him about the dangers.
not saying accidents at tracks dont happen either, but the danger to others is greatly reduced. no innocent people walking on a track or a cross street with cars on it. no trees to run unto. all racing is risky, hell that is part of the attraction to it for drivers and spectators. its all about managing risk, track is a safer place than the street no if and or buts about it. it all about the right environment, the street is not it...
oh yeah the girl how was paralyzed didnt choose to race, he decided to race another car from a stoplight. so she would be an innocent bystander in that.
not saying accidents at tracks dont happen either, but the danger to others is greatly reduced. no innocent people walking on a track or a cross street with cars on it. no trees to run unto. all racing is risky, hell that is part of the attraction to it for drivers and spectators. its all about managing risk, track is a safer place than the street no if and or buts about it. it all about the right environment, the street is not it...
oh yeah the girl how was paralyzed didnt choose to race, he decided to race another car from a stoplight. so she would be an innocent bystander in that.
Last edited by jcsuli74; 02-17-2008 at 11:54 AM.
#33
02-17-2008, 11:53 AM
#37
02-17-2008, 04:38 PM
lol...nice try at deflection...no...youtube is used here to sweep away your lil "badthings dont happen at tracks" routine...i think i made it clear what my intention was when i used it...you made the naive statement that innocent people do not get hurt at a track...so i bought up hundreds of examples how youre wrong
by the way...i never once made a case for streetracin in this thread so give that a rest...i just said the accident was not a streetracin accident imho
by the way...i never once made a case for streetracin in this thread so give that a rest...i just said the accident was not a streetracin accident imho
Last edited by StreetRacer; 02-17-2008 at 04:42 PM.
#38
02-17-2008, 05:21 PM
I think yes, street racing was involved, but it wasn't a streetracing accident. Yes, the car should have had it's lights on, but those spectators knew they were taking a chance when they went out to watch an illegal event, so I don't feel one bit sorry for them.
#39
02-17-2008, 06:42 PM
This accident would have never happened had spectators not been there to watch a street race. Hello....newsflash.....cars drive on the streets. While NOT a direct accident from the cars who were driving, everyone there has some opwnership of this incident.
Besides, I still think the driver the smashed into those people could have been some ***-clown chasing after the racers. Think about it.....how and why was he following so closely behind them?
Besides, I still think the driver the smashed into those people could have been some ***-clown chasing after the racers. Think about it.....how and why was he following so closely behind them?
#40
02-18-2008, 05:26 AM
This accident would have never happened had spectators not been there to watch a street race. Hello....newsflash.....cars drive on the streets. While NOT a direct accident from the cars who were driving, everyone there has some opwnership of this incident.
Besides, I still think the driver the smashed into those people could have been some ***-clown chasing after the racers. Think about it.....how and why was he following so closely behind them?
Besides, I still think the driver the smashed into those people could have been some ***-clown chasing after the racers. Think about it.....how and why was he following so closely behind them?
#41
02-18-2008, 11:00 AM
Gentlemen, before you start to jump all over me let me explain a couple of things. When I posted this, I didnt mean to stir up so much ****. I am a fifty year old father of three and I could not imagine the feeling of getting a phone call in the middle of the night saying that one of my kids had been killed or killed someone drag racing on the street. I am not God, dont get me wrong we all have done dumb **** and got away with it. I am no different.
Some of you guys are sitting on 5 or 600 hp. In the old days that was unheard of for the street. Today is alot different, people driving into your lane while on a cell phone or texting and they act like its your fault. Nobody cares about anyone else on the highway except themselves. How many times have you been amost run over by somebody while you were driving on "thier" road? That 600 hp mounted in a beer can makes for one hellawreck.
OK, so you beat some guy from light to light, is that 10 sec. of fame worth the risk of killing someone or yourself? Then you have to haul *** somewhere because youre worried about the cops showing up. No time to savor the moment.
Now think about this, youre at a local dragstrip and the same guy gives you the alligator (all mouth, no ***). Line um up wear him out and have a thousand people see it happen, then you have the rest of the day to savor the moment. No cops! One on One. Youre safer.
There is one thing you need to learn when you play with cars and as soon as you learn this life is FULL. You will never be the fastest, there will always been someboby out there that is just a little bit quicker. Its a game you cant win. What if that ricer had beat you? That LIFE!!
We all know someone that has lost somebody in an car. Some preventable some not. All Im saying is take the preventable path cause you have no control over the other.
Be a bigger man and smile at that dumbass that wants to race down Main St. Tell him youre way to smart for that and he wouldnt have a chance anyway. Pull away from the light like Granny coming home from the store. That will toast his cookies. Your Mom, Dad, Wife, Girlfriend, Kids, will be alot happier.
Now youre grounded for 2 weeks.
Some of you guys are sitting on 5 or 600 hp. In the old days that was unheard of for the street. Today is alot different, people driving into your lane while on a cell phone or texting and they act like its your fault. Nobody cares about anyone else on the highway except themselves. How many times have you been amost run over by somebody while you were driving on "thier" road? That 600 hp mounted in a beer can makes for one hellawreck.
OK, so you beat some guy from light to light, is that 10 sec. of fame worth the risk of killing someone or yourself? Then you have to haul *** somewhere because youre worried about the cops showing up. No time to savor the moment.
Now think about this, youre at a local dragstrip and the same guy gives you the alligator (all mouth, no ***). Line um up wear him out and have a thousand people see it happen, then you have the rest of the day to savor the moment. No cops! One on One. Youre safer.
There is one thing you need to learn when you play with cars and as soon as you learn this life is FULL. You will never be the fastest, there will always been someboby out there that is just a little bit quicker. Its a game you cant win. What if that ricer had beat you? That LIFE!!
We all know someone that has lost somebody in an car. Some preventable some not. All Im saying is take the preventable path cause you have no control over the other.
Be a bigger man and smile at that dumbass that wants to race down Main St. Tell him youre way to smart for that and he wouldnt have a chance anyway. Pull away from the light like Granny coming home from the store. That will toast his cookies. Your Mom, Dad, Wife, Girlfriend, Kids, will be alot happier.
Now youre grounded for 2 weeks.
#42
02-18-2008, 11:42 AM
as for the rest you forgot one thing....that element of danger is part of the allure....half the thrill of the race is rebel nature of it....thats the reason i have my dixie land air horn....the reason i have sky dived with friends...the reason i have seen the mountain top...the reason i go through doors looking for killers for a living....the reason 5 girls have a key to my house...someone said once that i wont stop till something happens....yeah...why should i? i have no intention of getting old and wearin diapers one day...so if i fall off the side of a mountain or if i fall out of a plane or if i get popped in a ghetto basement or if i hit the wall at 140 i'll go out havin fun
#43
02-18-2008, 11:53 AM
as for the rest you forgot one thing....that element of danger is part of the allure....half the thrill of the race is rebel nature of it....thats the reason i have my dixie land air horn....the reason i have sky dived with friends...the reason i have seen the mountain top...the reason i go through doors looking for killers for a living....the reason 5 girls have a key to my house...someone said once that i wont stop till something happens....yeah...why should i? i have no intention of getting old and wearin diapers one day...so if i fall off the side of a mountain or if i fall out of a plane or if i get popped in a ghetto basement or if i hit the wall at 140 i'll go out havin fun
just try not to take anyone with you....
#45
02-18-2008, 12:43 PM
as for the rest you forgot one thing....that element of danger is part of the allure....half the thrill of the race is rebel nature of it....thats the reason i have my dixie land air horn....the reason i have sky dived with friends...the reason i have seen the mountain top...the reason i go through doors looking for killers for a living....the reason 5 girls have a key to my house...someone said once that i wont stop till something happens....yeah...why should i? i have no intention of getting old and wearin diapers one day...so if i fall off the side of a mountain or if i fall out of a plane or if i get popped in a ghetto basement or if i hit the wall at 140 i'll go out havin fun
That is your God-given right. Life should not be boring, but street racers risk the live's of others. Racing belongs at the track, not at a street.
#46
02-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Gentlemen, before you start to jump all over me let me explain a couple of things. When I posted this, I didnt mean to stir up so much ****. I am a fifty year old father of three and I could not imagine the feeling of getting a phone call in the middle of the night saying that one of my kids had been killed or killed someone drag racing on the street. I am not God, dont get me wrong we all have done dumb **** and got away with it. I am no different.
Some of you guys are sitting on 5 or 600 hp. In the old days that was unheard of for the street. Today is alot different, people driving into your lane while on a cell phone or texting and they act like its your fault. Nobody cares about anyone else on the highway except themselves. How many times have you been amost run over by somebody while you were driving on "thier" road? That 600 hp mounted in a beer can makes for one hellawreck.
OK, so you beat some guy from light to light, is that 10 sec. of fame worth the risk of killing someone or yourself? Then you have to haul *** somewhere because youre worried about the cops showing up. No time to savor the moment.
Now think about this, youre at a local dragstrip and the same guy gives you the alligator (all mouth, no ***). Line um up wear him out and have a thousand people see it happen, then you have the rest of the day to savor the moment. No cops! One on One. Youre safer.
There is one thing you need to learn when you play with cars and as soon as you learn this life is FULL. You will never be the fastest, there will always been someboby out there that is just a little bit quicker. Its a game you cant win. What if that ricer had beat you? That LIFE!!
We all know someone that has lost somebody in an car. Some preventable some not. All Im saying is take the preventable path cause you have no control over the other.
Be a bigger man and smile at that dumbass that wants to race down Main St. Tell him youre way to smart for that and he wouldnt have a chance anyway. Pull away from the light like Granny coming home from the store. That will toast his cookies. Your Mom, Dad, Wife, Girlfriend, Kids, will be alot happier.
Now youre grounded for 2 weeks.
Some of you guys are sitting on 5 or 600 hp. In the old days that was unheard of for the street. Today is alot different, people driving into your lane while on a cell phone or texting and they act like its your fault. Nobody cares about anyone else on the highway except themselves. How many times have you been amost run over by somebody while you were driving on "thier" road? That 600 hp mounted in a beer can makes for one hellawreck.
OK, so you beat some guy from light to light, is that 10 sec. of fame worth the risk of killing someone or yourself? Then you have to haul *** somewhere because youre worried about the cops showing up. No time to savor the moment.
Now think about this, youre at a local dragstrip and the same guy gives you the alligator (all mouth, no ***). Line um up wear him out and have a thousand people see it happen, then you have the rest of the day to savor the moment. No cops! One on One. Youre safer.
There is one thing you need to learn when you play with cars and as soon as you learn this life is FULL. You will never be the fastest, there will always been someboby out there that is just a little bit quicker. Its a game you cant win. What if that ricer had beat you? That LIFE!!
We all know someone that has lost somebody in an car. Some preventable some not. All Im saying is take the preventable path cause you have no control over the other.
Be a bigger man and smile at that dumbass that wants to race down Main St. Tell him youre way to smart for that and he wouldnt have a chance anyway. Pull away from the light like Granny coming home from the store. That will toast his cookies. Your Mom, Dad, Wife, Girlfriend, Kids, will be alot happier.
Now youre grounded for 2 weeks.
Streets these days are crowded as hell and there more and more things taking our eyes off the road. One thing is for sure, street racing while popular in certain circles, is grossly not understood or supported by 99.9% of the population.....voters.....people who write letters and ask their law makers to get tough. Stories like this merely evokes emotions and a clamp-down on the sport. Those that continue to take part in these activities just don't see that they are hurting their own cause.
#47
02-18-2008, 12:53 PM
i'm an old movie fan...james cagney, john wayne, humphrey bogart, bing crosby and bob hope....i'll watch those old flicks all day
#49
02-18-2008, 01:10 PM
man i was way off....it was john derek in 'knock on any door" with humphrey bogart in 1949
Last edited by StreetRacer; 02-18-2008 at 01:14 PM.
#53
02-18-2008, 02:54 PM
I will say this,
Street, yer definatly one of my favorite people on here and definatly a character.
But honestly, all this crap you spew about how safe streetracing is where you do it, all this crap about how nobody would get hurt etc, etc,
untill you have ambulances and medical staff on hand with the races taking place on a closed course then it will NEVER be safe, there are TOO many unknowns and the actions you take on the street are immature, arrogant, a danger to yourself and everyone around you. PERIOD, end of story.
There is absolutly NOTHING you could say to confince myself or damn near every poster on here otherwise.
The solid fact about this remains, There was an ILLEGAL RACING event going on a PUBLIC ROAD with these retarded dipshits standing in the MIDDLE OF THE PUBLIC ROAD. If they were NOT there this would NOT have happened, and those 8 people who are friends, lovers, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters to people are all DEAD because they were TOO STUPID to do this on a CLOSED COURSE.
IF this was on a sanctioned CLOSED COURSE then these people would NOT have been slammed into by a car, and if they had MEDICAL STAFF ON HAND maybe the death toll wouldnt be so damn high.
There is NOT a DAMN you can say to make that anything other than FACT.
And you might be able to sit there and make all these escuses and rediculous claims, NOTHING changes the facts and matter how hard you try to blow smoke up everyones asses you are not convincing anyone, and i have a hard time thinking anyone will believe these rediculous justifications and technicallitys you spew out about the circumstances inj a weak and feeble attempt to justify the dangerous hijacking of public roads for the immature desires of criminal behavior.
Honestly i could give 2 ***** less about people being killed while streetracing, i figure it is a part of natural selection to remove the fucktards from the gene-pool, but the problem is they keep killing people who are not even wanting to participate, they draw in victims who had no idea what was going on. But putting a SCRAP of blame on the person who ran into all those ******* idiots standing in the road is a slap in the face to any sort of decency and integrity. Now the person who killed all those people will have to live with that fact the rest of thier lives. (if they lived i diddnt read it all)
So, in review
A) if they were not street racing then those 8 people would not be dead.
B) None of your attempts to justify this sort of behavior fool anyone but yourself.
THE FACT IS NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY YOU CAN NOT ENSURE 100% THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL NOT GET HURT WHILE DRIVING ON PUBLIC ROADS THAT ARE BEING HIJACKED FOR AN ILLEGAL STREET RACING EVENT! ANY CLAIMS OTHERWISE ARE PURE BULLSHIT.
Every time you street race you are toying with other peoples lives. The lives of innocent men, women, and children.
If you want to race, go to a track, at leasy there yer only toying with your own life.
Street, yer definatly one of my favorite people on here and definatly a character.
But honestly, all this crap you spew about how safe streetracing is where you do it, all this crap about how nobody would get hurt etc, etc,
untill you have ambulances and medical staff on hand with the races taking place on a closed course then it will NEVER be safe, there are TOO many unknowns and the actions you take on the street are immature, arrogant, a danger to yourself and everyone around you. PERIOD, end of story.
There is absolutly NOTHING you could say to confince myself or damn near every poster on here otherwise.
The solid fact about this remains, There was an ILLEGAL RACING event going on a PUBLIC ROAD with these retarded dipshits standing in the MIDDLE OF THE PUBLIC ROAD. If they were NOT there this would NOT have happened, and those 8 people who are friends, lovers, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters to people are all DEAD because they were TOO STUPID to do this on a CLOSED COURSE.
IF this was on a sanctioned CLOSED COURSE then these people would NOT have been slammed into by a car, and if they had MEDICAL STAFF ON HAND maybe the death toll wouldnt be so damn high.
There is NOT a DAMN you can say to make that anything other than FACT.
And you might be able to sit there and make all these escuses and rediculous claims, NOTHING changes the facts and matter how hard you try to blow smoke up everyones asses you are not convincing anyone, and i have a hard time thinking anyone will believe these rediculous justifications and technicallitys you spew out about the circumstances inj a weak and feeble attempt to justify the dangerous hijacking of public roads for the immature desires of criminal behavior.
Honestly i could give 2 ***** less about people being killed while streetracing, i figure it is a part of natural selection to remove the fucktards from the gene-pool, but the problem is they keep killing people who are not even wanting to participate, they draw in victims who had no idea what was going on. But putting a SCRAP of blame on the person who ran into all those ******* idiots standing in the road is a slap in the face to any sort of decency and integrity. Now the person who killed all those people will have to live with that fact the rest of thier lives. (if they lived i diddnt read it all)
So, in review
A) if they were not street racing then those 8 people would not be dead.
B) None of your attempts to justify this sort of behavior fool anyone but yourself.
THE FACT IS NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY YOU CAN NOT ENSURE 100% THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL NOT GET HURT WHILE DRIVING ON PUBLIC ROADS THAT ARE BEING HIJACKED FOR AN ILLEGAL STREET RACING EVENT! ANY CLAIMS OTHERWISE ARE PURE BULLSHIT.
Every time you street race you are toying with other peoples lives. The lives of innocent men, women, and children.
If you want to race, go to a track, at leasy there yer only toying with your own life.
Last edited by JackThe Ripper; 02-18-2008 at 03:19 PM.
#54
02-18-2008, 04:34 PM
never said it was safe...see post 42...i said i suspect this may not have been a streetracing "accident"
#55
02-18-2008, 04:50 PM
Boy, Jack's pretty smart for a R'Tard. Hey Street this is not to bash you or your lfestyle. I commend your lifestyle, thats what life should be about.
LIVING IT TO THE FULLEST. All the times you jumped from a plane it was under controlled conditions. You didnt jump off a bridge into the middle of a crowded interstate that could effect others. When you went to the mountain top you didnt take three other people that didnt want to go. All your equipment for both of these things was perpared for that special reason. If you feel off of that mountain or your chute didnt open it only affected you. Thats the thrill of it. Cheating Death what a rush. If this is what you choose and it kills you, then thats perfectly acceptable because its your passion.
If I go to a dragstrip and crash and killed myself then thats my choice, but I didnt take anyone else with me that didnt want to go.
I know that none of us want to kill anyone. We dont leave home saying "C'ya Mom I going out to wipe out a family tonight, I'll be home by 12"
No, but if we condon street racing it will continue to happen. We need to set an example for the younger people that are going to keep our passion for cars alive. Thanks Bubba
LIVING IT TO THE FULLEST. All the times you jumped from a plane it was under controlled conditions. You didnt jump off a bridge into the middle of a crowded interstate that could effect others. When you went to the mountain top you didnt take three other people that didnt want to go. All your equipment for both of these things was perpared for that special reason. If you feel off of that mountain or your chute didnt open it only affected you. Thats the thrill of it. Cheating Death what a rush. If this is what you choose and it kills you, then thats perfectly acceptable because its your passion.
If I go to a dragstrip and crash and killed myself then thats my choice, but I didnt take anyone else with me that didnt want to go.
I know that none of us want to kill anyone. We dont leave home saying "C'ya Mom I going out to wipe out a family tonight, I'll be home by 12"
No, but if we condon street racing it will continue to happen. We need to set an example for the younger people that are going to keep our passion for cars alive. Thanks Bubba
#57
02-18-2008, 04:53 PM
lol
#59
02-18-2008, 06:14 PM
Depending on the state, courts may find that all the parties involved will have comparative fault. I would sue the old man if the spectators where standing on a sidewalk or somewhere in which pesdestrian traffic is allowed. Everyone here is at fault and I would sue and let the courts decide. You may be surprised to know that the old man will get the bigger cut of the blame if it is known that they were watching an illegal event but standing on a pedestrian walkway. Similar if a robber sues you for injury, you could of ask him to stop but instead you decided to hit him with a bat, you may be liable for his injury. You also have to warn trespassors if thery are any dangers in your property like a deadly dog.
#60
02-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Srange world we live in.....full of lawyers. This is one of the many reasons why I don't take part in this crap.
#1 - The embarrassment and humiliation at work.
#2 - The potential loss of my job and the inability to ever get a company car ever again.
#3 - The potential loss of my house
#4 - Ruined reputation.
I guess if I had nothing, and did not care about the safety of others, I would be like "bring it on".
#1 - The embarrassment and humiliation at work.
#2 - The potential loss of my job and the inability to ever get a company car ever again.
#3 - The potential loss of my house
#4 - Ruined reputation.
I guess if I had nothing, and did not care about the safety of others, I would be like "bring it on".