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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23194752

 

Looks to me like an old lady in her old crown vic saw the kids on the side of the road and decided to run into them.

Tragic.

 

i'm glad that someone bought this up...lets be honest though..

THIS WAS NOT A STREETRACE ACCIDENT

heres a news story:

smoking caused the school shooting the other day because as the wacko shot up the school there was a guy smoking in the bathroom..

see? just as ridiculous...
i love this statement:

Authorities say the driver accidentally drove into the crowd but wasn't part of the race.


so why oh why is this a streetrace accident? lol


instead of blaming it on the race why not take the drivers license away from people who shouldnt have it

 

This was 100% a street race. Stop kidding yourself. Those people were there to watch a race and they got killed by another car when they stepped out into the street to watch the racers pass by.

I am not sure what is making me more speachless, you, or the incident. I want to say more, but I just don't know where to begin. I am completely dumbfounded.

Besides, the driver might as well been someone chasing them or somehow affliated with the race.....it really does not matter. Street racing killed those people, plain and simple.

AND, those spectators are also 100% at fault for their own death.....spectators need to take responsibility too.

 

Such of waste....R.I.P...

 

It did say in there, that the Crown Vic couldn't see from the smoke. Smoke from the two racing cars I'm assuming.

 

bs, there was a streetrace...i said this was not a streetrace accident...read the story...some body who had nothing to do with the race plowed into the crowd...not the racers!!! and oooo the smoke did it? bs again....if the driver is gonna try and pin it on the smoke then how fast was that driver going? this was not a streetrace accident...it was a bad driver accident.....
such a crock...hey..people were shopping in the world trade center the morning of 9-11...lets blame that attack on the shoppers...it was a shopping accident!

 

Wow, things like this are becoming more and more common..

 

is it me or does it seem like whole family's are going to these races. the sad thing is the kids are going to think this is ok, and theres going to be a lot more crash if more and more kids think that its fine.

 

so it was the fault of an innocent person driving their car on a public road?
ok here is the low down, if they were not there in the middle of a PUBLIC road watching an ILLEGAL street race then they would still be alive. none of was there to know the driving conditions, but lets see early morning (before the sun was up) nice haze of tire smoke (driver probably thought it was fog) and a road that has a 55 mph speed limit. now most people including myself would exactly expect to find 50 people standing in the middle of a ROAD. I love one quote i read something like he always likes going to the track.... hello ROAD not "track". if these guys would have been in a controlled safe environment (TRACK not road) then the spectators would still be alive.

simple cause and effect. dont like the effect then dont stand in the middle of a damn road watching an illegal street race.

 

yes...it was...guy shoots into a crowd....i guess you would say it was the crowds fault there too huh?
lol

old guy plowed into a arbys restaurant 2 months ago in queens village...uh...where was that streetrace? lol

taxi plowed into 4 people in manhattan 1 month ago....jeez i guess there must have been a streetrace there too huh?

last night a garbage truck ran into 4 people in the city...i would think it would be hard to streetrace a garbage truck but if you say so.....streetrace accident!!! lol

so now this guy plows into a crowd and you blame the streetrace?? oooooooooookay

you say a crowd of people standing in a street? lol...coulda sworn the story said they were on the side...and since when does tire smoke obscure that large crowd you describe? you must be picturing a desert storm...

 

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/8-kille...16110009990001

ACCOKEEK, Md. (Feb. 16) - A car plowed into a group of street-racing fans obscured by a cloud of tire smoke on a highway Saturday, killing eight people and scattering bodies in the early morning darkness.
At least five others were injured in the gruesome wreck along a flat, isolated stretch of highway about 20 miles south of Washington known for illegal races.

About 50 people were gathered before dawn along Route 210 as two cars spun their wheels, kicked up smoke and sped off, said Prince George's County police Cpl. Clinton Copeland.

Fans had spilled onto the smoky, dark road to watch the cars drive away when a white Ford Crown Victoria unexpectedly came up from behind and smashed into them.


that is a direct quote from the new story i read.

put down the fast and furious movies and realisze that people DIE at these things
BTW what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand

 

why is never the people who are participating in the illegal activity's fault for anything?

thats the trouble with today's society no body wants to take responsibility for their actions.

 

oh yeah look at where the debris and the car is in the picture.... yep right in the MIDDLE of the road, so much for side of the road theory.

 

oh yeah this a quote from the FIRST paragraph of the story that came from the link given in the first thread

ACCOKEEK, Md. - In the pre-dawn hours, the lonely stretch of Route 210 belonged to a crowd of street-racing fans pumped up by the thrill of squealing tires, smoke and speed.
They spilled into the middle of a 55-mph zone, enveloped by the smoke cloud as two racers peeled off to the north. No one suspected the danger that roared from behind until it was upon them.

 

never said that the streeracers ran into them, said an innocent driver ran into a crowd gathered to WATCH an illegal event. look at the road in the picture, narrow, curvy, and hilling, now factor in early morning before the sun is up, a haze of tire smoke and tell me that the driver saw anything that might have been standing in the middle of the road. we are not talking about somebody driving through a building or driving on a sidewalk. they were driving on a road that had a 55 mph speed limit.

 

looks like there was a nice curve in the road to me
they wouldnt start out goin that way
so im assumin dude came around curve at 50-60 mph
into a lil fog
its dark
all of a sudden your airbags deploy
people are dead
from an illegal street race
ima have to go with everyone else on this and say your not makin any sense stree

 

jcsuli74,

bullshit...this guy came around the curve and hit the crowd...since when is it the victims fault? tire smoke at a streetrace doesnt blanket the entire road for more than 5 seconds....how fast was he goin to do that sort of damage....only a couch potato thinks that where a car stops is where the accident happened? omg damage in the street....i guess you think they were standing there like bowling pins and nobody ran when the 1st guy got it...the idiot didnt have his lights on!!! ya think maybe his speed and his lights off may have had more to do with it than a 5 second cloud of smoke? lets see...guy speeding with his lights off.....and then you want to point to the picture..."see where the car is, street" 'see where the debris is, street" look again genius....follow the debris trail...i marked it with a arrow....see the grass in the street? see that debris in the grass? how do you think the car ended on that angle? because it went into the side...it hit a few people....and it kept on hitting people until it came to a stop...see the amount of damage? you wanna stick with the 50 miles an hour theory? wake up!!

 

heres a few parts of the story you conveniantly left out....lol:

1. About 50 people were watching the race, Gaines said, and she saw the Crown Victoria approach without its lights on.

2. The car came through so fast that "it just ripped people apart," he said.

3. Shoes were strewn about in the grass

4. The Crown Victoria, which had a crumpled hood and a partially collapsed roof, ended up down an embankment with one of the victims lodged inside

 

if there hadn't have been a streetrace then the crowd would not have been in that specific location, and therefore wouldn't have been plowed down by grandma. nuff said IMO.

 

okay....along that line of thinking...
kid plays hooky from school...ends up caught, raped, and killed by a pedophile....hmmmm....well if the kid hadnt played hooky..................

see what i mean....look i know that tires can kick up lots of smoke and streetracin is bad....but i see another possibilty here....like this fucko decided to do exactly what he did...turn off his lights and plow down a coupla damn streetracers...and nobody will even look at that possibilty because omg those guys shouldnt have been streetracin in the first place and before somebody says , "oh no, noone would do that":

In 1987, local resident and insurance broker Andrew Romano tried to take matters into his own hands and was charged with second degree manslaughter when he poured oil on Francis Lewis Boulevard to stop people from racing – and ended up killing 20-year-old racer Ken Miret, whose car spun out of control and ran into a tree. Romano was acquitted the next year, but the case has become a famous example of the racing on the Boulevard.

 

yeah if the kid hadn't played hookie he would not have been raped and killed that day.

but I see what your saying street, the ppl were not killed from the actual racing part of that streetrace but they shouldn't have even been there in the first place, they were there because of that streetrace. So most ppl are gonna see it that the streetrace is why they are dead.

 

whatever apparently you are the only one on here that feels this way, so lets just that we aggree to disagree on this

i bet you think its the guns fault people commit crime and shoot people.
it was the bars fault that some guy got drunk decided to drive home and killed innocent people. it is McDonald's fault are kids are fat. all is the same logic you are using

ok everyone street racing is perfectly acceptable behavior, grandma DECIDED to kill as many people who were standing in the road for a perfectly acceptable legal event (hey thats why they were there at 4 in the morning) we should all stop and hail the streetracer for being a hero.

dude put down the vin diesel bobblehead, take which everone of the fast and furious videos you are watching out if the dvd player, and enter reality streetracing is dangerous, illegal, and well stupid. it doesnt make you cool, so it helps pick up some 18 year old girl.

if they were not there for the supercool, totally awesome, perfectly acceptable race then they would still be alive.

 

I understand what everyone is saying from both sides. How much is it the street racers fault and how much is the crowd plus the crown vic. Have you asked yourself if you saw a big cloud of smoke that did not allow visibility beyond 10 feet would you slow down and put your lights on?

I offer a different reason why those poor souls died that day. The senior citizen knew that this sort of activity happens there. He was fed up with it and wanted to prove a point. He purposefully turned off his lights and ramed into the victims. The Perfect crime? Maybe, maybe not I hope they really study the facts and look at all the angles so we may get to the truth.

If it were me and I saw a cloud a smoke in the middle of the street I would slow down to a stop to let it clear as there may be a car on fire or in an accident.

 

the bar and the gun analogy makes my point , not yours... and since i already addressed the rest of your views i wont go in circles like you want to...as for the fast and the furious, you seem more into that movie than i am....fyi...i'm more into american graffiti

 

+10000000....BINGO BINGO BINGO...thanks venom...thats what i said earlier but maybe they will listen to you....because theres no way anyone is gonna ACCIDENTALLY drive through a smoke cloud WITH LIGHTS OFF and a speed fast enough to plow down eight people and flip his car over into an embankment....

 

i'll tell you a true story...(he tells this story all the time) years ago my buddy Marc handled a traffic accident involving a maxima and a mustang....both cars had flipped over a few times and the drivers were mangled all over the damn street....passenger in the maxima lived but in critical...streetracing accident they called it! case closed who cares...well marc and his partner had the job of notifying the familys...and the mustang guy had a nice family who were shocked and saddened by the loss...the maxima guy's family werent so sad cause the guy was a loser who had a record a mile long...armed robberys............................and a carjacking 5 years earlier...anyway the case is closed as a streetracing accident but it keeps naggin marc...so the next day he goes back to the scene on a feeling....he searches around with a flashlight and finds a gun in the embankment...hmmm......long story short, marc and his partner pay a visit to the hospital and get the guy to admit that the driver of the maxima waved the gun at the mustang guy while trying to get the mustang...the mustang took off and they chased him in the maxima....the crash occurred and its called a streetrace but see how things arent always what they seem to be? maybe it doesnt matter to clear a dead mans name but at least the truth was told...people need to get out of that 2 dimensional line of thinking and realize that there is more than meets the eye sometimes....i think they just let a murderer off because its easier to say it was a streetrace gone bad

 

no my point was that guns dont cause shootings and crime the criminal behind them does.... as fas as the bar scene, it was the idiot who got plowed and decided hey i can drive home that caused the accident. it's not Mcdonalds fault are kids are fat its the parents who shove it in their mouths.

so let me guess if a woman gets raped, its her fault for wearing something that provoked it

just more its not my fault, it is someone elses. i dont have to take responsibilities for my actions. blah blah blah. first of all as i said before none of us no the exact details of what happened and what the ENTIRE road looks like, i am saying given the pictures that were taken the road is narrow hilly and very curvy. it is not a flat, straight piece of road that sometbody had plenty of time to see what was coming. do you think it might be reasonable to consider that the person driving came around a curve and oh wow there is a haze of something and didnt have time to stop. remember this was a crown vic with its glorious 4057lb curb weight doing what we expect to be the 55mph speed limit. now simple reason can tell us that 1) the car doesnt stop on a dime 2) a 4000lb car goin 55mph is going to do a hell of a lot of damage to anything it hits (alot more than say a honda civic with its 2500lb curb weight)

 

lol...i give up dude...keep those rose colored glasses on...lol...at least this thread has got you postin

 

this is a subject i get very passionate about my senior year in high school i lost a very good friend of mine i street race event. and his girlfriend is still paralyzed from the chest down (16 years later). we had a lot of car accidents, serious injuries and his death as well as a junior die in the same year. all were due to street racing. bottom line is i feel if you are going to race do it on the track. at least there innocent bystanders dont get hurt and you have to abide by safety regulation. i have no problem with racing just keep it where it belongs not on the road.