Blue Ray and HDDVD both began development in 2002, both formats were viable working formats before Xbox360 came out, but they were more reserved for the high price botiques and not quite ready for the mass consumer market


And you know why Paramount, Universal, and Warner went with Blue ray? Because they knew damn good and well that people are willing to drop 500-600 for a game system, but not many people were willing to drop 400-700 for a new video format, especially when so many people dont have TV's that can even do the new formats Justice.

Hell, if PS3 didnt have Blue-Ray and Xbox had HDDVD it would be all about HDDVD

But people without HD TVS dont give a **** when it comes to video game systems, they will buy the latest and greatest.

Honestly, i doubt either format would have ever taken off unless it was sneaked uinto yer home.

Seriously, the average consumer has a DVD player and an SD TV. Why the HELL pay a crapload more for something that does you no real good?

However, they gobbled up the PS3's like mad, even with sub-par TV's. A lot of those are people who probably would have NEVER tried to adopt a new video format.

I still dont think Blu Ray will ever be what DVD currently is, i think it will always be a small brother to DVD, and forgotten once the next truly impressive format is developed.

The difference in video quality between a quality DVD player and a bluertay/HDDVD player is not exactly staggering and it offers almost no added conveniences, and convenience is the real reason most consumers buy stuff.


I have a Denon DV2800 player, i got it about 3 years ago and paid 1,100, i got it on sale. lol. The thing is built with some of the best circuitry out there, it is solid as a tank, weights in 45lbs, is chalk full of 192khz Burr Brown DACs and delivers a VERY solid performance, All in all it is one hell of a DVD player. Honestly it will hold its own STILL with most Blue-Ray playes, aint saying it is better, but not all DVD players are equal, not all circuitry are equal.

I love having the latest and greatest, but quite frankly it looks like a waste of money. Slight picture improvement at best. Definatly not worth the cost.

However, if i bought a PS3 sure i would buy the stuff. If my Xbox did HD DVD then i would probably try that.

alot of consumers are the same, you gotta find a way to sneak a new format to them or they probably wont be interested

 

Anyone played Lost Odessy? Looks friggin amazing... 4 disc game. lol

 

the point i was trying to make is that the xbox 360 came out well before the PS3, at a time when adding an HD-dvd drive to the xbox would have driven the price through the roof.

And up until recently, very few people were buying PS3's specifically for blu-ray. It was more like, "Damn i just spent 600 bucks on this PS3 and there are no good games? I guess I'll buy some blu-ray discs so i can at least get my money's worth out of this beast"




edit: and yes that lost odyssey game looks pretty sweet. and it's yet another game that the PS3 doesn't have.

 

well yeah thats just it, blueray was epxencive as hell and not selling much. I dont think ANYONE bought a PS3 for blue-ray capability, the ps3 is a slick machine even without blue ray i think it would be worth the price, but a LOT of people found a blueray player in thier home with the PS3.

it was a damn good idea honestly.

 

Ph yeah as far as Lost Oddessy only being on Xbox, PS3 can kiss my *** cause Final Fantasy is ONLY on PS...

 

Universal and Paramount never flipped over to the Blu Ray side. Paramount originally released on both formats and then went HDDVD exclusive. To this day, there are more standalone HDDVD players than there are standalone Blu Ray players. Companies joined Blu Ray because they thought PS3 would sell a lot and therefore have a lot of blu ray players in the market. I guarantee half these people with PS3s aren't even playing them on HDTVs so its just wasting the blu ray capabilites.

Anyways, I supported HDDVD just cause it was cheaper and at the time ad better movies. I figure I'm only down $200 for the player and then about 30 movies I'll watch over and over again.

Oh, COD4 kicks ***. The single player campaign was perfect length and great and online is awesome. Way better than Halo 3.

 

Paramount hopped ship like a month ago, they had a clause in their contract that allowed them to follow warner. They started out Hd-dvd exclusive though. Universal makes both formats, for now. You're preaching to the choir on this one, I was rooting for HD all along and was kinda said when blu-ray won.


And i wasn't comparing COD4 to halo or ANY other game, it sucks all on it's own. I wasted 60$ for a game that is too short, has NO co-op play, and weak multiplayer. They advertised how it was going to have like 100's of weapons, then you get the game and realize they are all just different versions of the same three or four weapons.

 

COD will be better than Halo when:
-online co op with 4 players
-meta games that tallies score during campaign
-theater that records last 20 games,create your own pics and vids with vids
-Forge that allows you to create your own levels and game types
-GRunt Party with Headshots

Halo 3 has defined what you should expect from games not just pretty realistic lights. Next FPS I buy I expect it to have the list mentioned above, except the Grunt party hehe.

 

this little tid bit of information might **** you off...

Microsoft extended the 1 year warranty to 3 years for that actual problem. If it's the ring of death then it is covered for 3 years. Mine was old as **** as well and I still called Microsoft hoping they would work with me or something and when I got to a person he informed me of the warranty extension for that problem.

 

Yah.... i had already traded in before i found that out. I put the Serial Number in thier website and it said it was out of warranty.

it would be nice if they would say "For all issues aside from Red Ring of Death"

 

hahaha
how many computers have you built with ati JUNK?
i gave up after about o my 3rd
stickly nvidia here

 

get the **** out with that ****!

COD4 is the ****!...i mean yea it lacks co op which i like to play with friends since you cannot play with 2 people on 1 xbox on live...which is the downfall of all the rainbow and cod games...but its a good game...i enjoy it

 

Universal only produces for HDDVD. Paramount started out as dual format but switched to HDDVD exclusive. Toshiba is calling it quits though and Blu Ray will be the only format. Hopefully Microsoft will put out the Blu Ray add on soon like they said they would.

COD4 is a great multiplayer game. I think they have the perfect amount of weapons. Do you honestly switch weapons that often? I usually stick to the same 2 or 3 guns. For me the single player was perfect because I don't usually finish the whole single player games.

 

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006254.html

multi-player is the ONLY thing COD4 had going for it, and it's multi-player still sucks. And Yes, in a game where the weapons actually have differences (halo 3) I do switch weapons a lot. Hard to adapt if you only ever use one or two guns.

I don't really want to argue about COD4 anymore though, if thats what people like then they should go for it. No amount of convincing will ever make me think it's a good game, so why should I expect to be able to convince anybody halo is better? Not to mention 90% of the Halo bashers have never even played through a whole level. Play what you want and we'll all be happy.

 

I agree that it's personal preference. I have both games and prefer COD4 just cause thats more of my taste. To each their own. I just wish all the FPS would take ideas from each other and use them. I like Halo 3's use of recording video and taking pictures, COD4s party invites so your friends always follow you into games and are on the same team, and then GRAW and Raindbow Six have the better of the creating match features in the sense that you can pick the map you want, change and restrict weapons, time/kill length, etc.

Oh and, Universal is only switching because Toshiba decided to hang up the towel. Universal still has not produced one movie on Blu Ray. Again, it's all about preference and HDDVD had better prices and actually more features then Blu Ray put out. People just like to ride Sony's nuts.

 

I wish they would add the ability to sprint to halo, And co-op on COD4 would have added a lot to that game.

Not to mention HD-DVD's don't (or didn't i suppose) have region codes so the discs were the same globally. Again, preaching to the choir since I don't much care for blu-ray. Unfortunately, sony is a major player in the HD market. Things didn't bode well for toshiba when they had to use Sony cameras to shoot their HD superbowl ad though, that's how entrenched Sony already is.

 

Im not buying another player as Im more than very satisfied with Dvds. The price of blueray has to come down on burners and blank discs.

 

if yours is a new one it should have HDMI mine does

 

Ah yes, I forgot about the sprint feature. Add that in there as well as the cover system from Vegas.

 

I wish the sniping in halo would be like COD4

 

It doesn't

It's a newer version, not the newest.