Troubleshooting a clutch, help?
#1
11-08-2006, 01:46 PM
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Troubleshooting a clutch, help?
Hey folks.
So i swapped out the clutch on my honda. It is an inline 4banger.
pain in the ***. Pulled the starter, pulled the axles, dropped the transmission and swapped out the clutch.
Got the new clutch in. And something is definatly wrong. so tomorrow im gonna pull it all back off.
The lever on the transaxle which is attacked to the clutch cable isnt very stiff, it is actually not stiff at all. Now, i know this handle is connected to the throwout bearing which should be putting pressure on the diaphram spring. But it doesent look like that is happening.
Now, the relase fork/throwout bearing i did NOT replace, i assumed it would work with this new clutch. this is NOT a performance clutch but just a direct replacement, however the clutch plate does look a little different than the one im pulling out. Swapping that out with the new one is something im looking into
when starting the car i can shift through all the gears without pushing in the clutch pedal except reverse which just grinds.
While in neutral the axle is still which i expect cause as far as i can tell it has nothing to do with the clutch.
when i pop it in first gear the axle starts spinning as it should. (except i dont need the clutch to do this)
As far as i can tell, the throwout bearing does not look like it is pressing against the diaphram spring. I think that is the problem.
Does anybody have any other ideas as to what the cause could be? Anything else i should check?
So i swapped out the clutch on my honda. It is an inline 4banger.
pain in the ***. Pulled the starter, pulled the axles, dropped the transmission and swapped out the clutch.
Got the new clutch in. And something is definatly wrong. so tomorrow im gonna pull it all back off.
The lever on the transaxle which is attacked to the clutch cable isnt very stiff, it is actually not stiff at all. Now, i know this handle is connected to the throwout bearing which should be putting pressure on the diaphram spring. But it doesent look like that is happening.
Now, the relase fork/throwout bearing i did NOT replace, i assumed it would work with this new clutch. this is NOT a performance clutch but just a direct replacement, however the clutch plate does look a little different than the one im pulling out. Swapping that out with the new one is something im looking into
when starting the car i can shift through all the gears without pushing in the clutch pedal except reverse which just grinds.
While in neutral the axle is still which i expect cause as far as i can tell it has nothing to do with the clutch.
when i pop it in first gear the axle starts spinning as it should. (except i dont need the clutch to do this)
As far as i can tell, the throwout bearing does not look like it is pressing against the diaphram spring. I think that is the problem.
Does anybody have any other ideas as to what the cause could be? Anything else i should check?
#2
11-08-2006, 01:55 PM
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Just thought of something.....
brief history, i started having troubles with the clutch, it was hard to get in 1st and 2nd, reverse always grinded.
I adjusted the cable and everything worked fine.
My girlfriend was driving the car, she hit the clutch and heared/felt a pop and once again it was very very hard to get in first and 2nd, reverse grinded badly during a shift to revserse.
I tried adjusting the clutch cable but that diddnt seem to help this time.
im wondering if there is something wrong with the level and assembly that the throwout bearing connect to, seems like once i adjusted the clutch it was able to reach the diaphram spring and all was well. While she was driving something popped and caused the throwout bearing assembly to not reach as far?.......
brief history, i started having troubles with the clutch, it was hard to get in 1st and 2nd, reverse always grinded.
I adjusted the cable and everything worked fine.
My girlfriend was driving the car, she hit the clutch and heared/felt a pop and once again it was very very hard to get in first and 2nd, reverse grinded badly during a shift to revserse.
I tried adjusting the clutch cable but that diddnt seem to help this time.
im wondering if there is something wrong with the level and assembly that the throwout bearing connect to, seems like once i adjusted the clutch it was able to reach the diaphram spring and all was well. While she was driving something popped and caused the throwout bearing assembly to not reach as far?.......
#4
11-08-2006, 02:43 PM
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plus i have a very hard time believing that i can pay 100 bucks and have them take out the axle, starter, drop the tranny and fix the clutch.
i did everything the chiltions manual said. i think something is ****ed up and im trying to find out what it is....
no offence, but if yer not going to be helpful........ then go away
i did everything the chiltions manual said. i think something is ****ed up and im trying to find out what it is....
no offence, but if yer not going to be helpful........ then go away
#5
11-08-2006, 02:44 PM
uh...
I always change the throw out bearing when I swap a clutch...
you did something wrong... take it apart and fix it...
I honestly don't know how ya screwed up... i mean really... were you born dumb? Or did you become dumb later on in life?
lol
I always change the throw out bearing when I swap a clutch...
you did something wrong... take it apart and fix it...
I honestly don't know how ya screwed up... i mean really... were you born dumb? Or did you become dumb later on in life?
lol
#6
11-08-2006, 02:49 PM
the point was that you've experienced 3 significant abberations in the operation and installation of the clutch so chiltons and text descriptions aren't going to help much in all probability. It's clearly beyond chiltons and despite having done a handful of honda clutches myself, I'm stumped. (probably should have said that the first time).
The 100 dollar penalty is on top of the normal charge for a clutch job. One of my side jobs is gunsmithing and in that role I charge people 100 bucks as a penalty for trying to fix their own gun, then bringing me the pieces to assemble. That's on top of the 50 bucks to strip, detail clean and lube.
I'll go away now. You've got the best advice I could muster. peece owt dude.
The 100 dollar penalty is on top of the normal charge for a clutch job. One of my side jobs is gunsmithing and in that role I charge people 100 bucks as a penalty for trying to fix their own gun, then bringing me the pieces to assemble. That's on top of the 50 bucks to strip, detail clean and lube.
I'll go away now. You've got the best advice I could muster. peece owt dude.
#8
11-08-2006, 02:51 PM
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LOL.... yah.. the bad thing is i troubleshoot stuff that is thousands of times more complex for a living..... i reallt think the problem is with the release fork or something, the release bearing definatly isnt getting to the pressure plate.
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