Lets see who gets the answer to this one...
#122
08-24-2006 | 05:28 PM
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From: JACKSON NJ
seriously... my ****in dog is smarter then you people...
Everyone w/ a treadmill... do this...
turn on treadmill
take toy match box car...
put car on treadmill... and hold your finger on the roof...
now push the car foward...
it will move...
the plane is the car
the treadmill is... well the treadmill
and your finger is the JET ENGINES...
Everyone w/ a treadmill... do this...
turn on treadmill
take toy match box car...
put car on treadmill... and hold your finger on the roof...
now push the car foward...
it will move...
the plane is the car
the treadmill is... well the treadmill
and your finger is the JET ENGINES...
#123
08-24-2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GREG@SN95
seriously... my ****in dog is smarter then you people...
Everyone w/ a treadmill... do this...
turn on treadmill
take toy match box car...
put car on treadmill... and hold your finger on the roof...
now push the car foward...
it will move...
the plane is the car
the treadmill is... well the treadmill
and your finger is the JET ENGINES...
Everyone w/ a treadmill... do this...
turn on treadmill
take toy match box car...
put car on treadmill... and hold your finger on the roof...
now push the car foward...
it will move...
the plane is the car
the treadmill is... well the treadmill
and your finger is the JET ENGINES...
LOL..... No, your finger is the engine providing power to the wheels.
Weather or not the wheels spin have NOTHING TO DO with this situation.
The engines pull the AIRCRAFT, they do not move the wheels to get forward movement.
The engines when on, pulling the aircraft pull the air, they do not pull the ground.
this is dumb. anyone else wanna look like a retard on this?>
#124
08-24-2006 | 06:09 PM
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HERE IS THE ANSWER.
This is a trick question, it tricks you into looking at the situation in the wrong way.
First off, Prop or Jep planes do NOT use movement created by the wheels to gain speed.
Instead they gain speed by pulling the AIR AHEAD of them and BLOWING it BEHIND them.
That said, it does not matter if the trreadmill is moving fast or standing still, it does create AIR MOVEMENT.
The plane gets its movement by pulling the AIR which is still, NOT by pulling itself along the ground with motorized wheels.
So, even if the treadmill is moving 200mph, the plane will still suck air ahead and spit it out behind to gain speed, once it has enough speed it WILL take off.
Now, for ****s and grins, lets put a WIND MACHINE at the end of the runway blowing at the plane. Well, once the wind machine puts enough force out with the wind it creates lift, in which case the plane will STILL take off but it will be hovering.
So, seeing as how the plane does NOT use motors to power the wheels to pull it across the runway, as a car would, that nulls out the runway in its entirety.
If this was actually done? Well, i'd hate to think ot the lodgistics of this but the plane better take off fast or it will simply be dumped off the rear of the runway.
lol
This is a trick question, it tricks you into looking at the situation in the wrong way.
First off, Prop or Jep planes do NOT use movement created by the wheels to gain speed.
Instead they gain speed by pulling the AIR AHEAD of them and BLOWING it BEHIND them.
That said, it does not matter if the trreadmill is moving fast or standing still, it does create AIR MOVEMENT.
The plane gets its movement by pulling the AIR which is still, NOT by pulling itself along the ground with motorized wheels.
So, even if the treadmill is moving 200mph, the plane will still suck air ahead and spit it out behind to gain speed, once it has enough speed it WILL take off.
Now, for ****s and grins, lets put a WIND MACHINE at the end of the runway blowing at the plane. Well, once the wind machine puts enough force out with the wind it creates lift, in which case the plane will STILL take off but it will be hovering.
So, seeing as how the plane does NOT use motors to power the wheels to pull it across the runway, as a car would, that nulls out the runway in its entirety.
If this was actually done? Well, i'd hate to think ot the lodgistics of this but the plane better take off fast or it will simply be dumped off the rear of the runway.
lol
#126
08-24-2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
This has been proven time and time again by me, Badfish, Jack, greg and the few others who "get it"
i dunno.. what is amazing is how many times this can be explained and people are still too ****ing stupid to understand....
its like explaining advanced physics to a bunch of inbred monkeys.
#127
08-24-2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
Lol... i misread what greg wrote.
i dunno.. what is amazing is how many times this can be explained and people are still too ****ing stupid to understand....
its like explaining advanced physics to a bunch of inbred monkeys.
i dunno.. what is amazing is how many times this can be explained and people are still too ****ing stupid to understand....
its like explaining advanced physics to a bunch of inbred monkeys.
#129
08-24-2006 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
It is frustrating...now you know someone else is gonna chime in and say the plane cant take off. There not gonna read the whole thread and see the correct answer in their face over and over and over again. Then one of the ppl who "gets it" is gonna have to waste time and reply...vicious cycle of thread reading neglect.
#130
08-24-2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mossberg
It's frightening to see how many of you don't know the concept of thrust. Why should it take this many pages before people figure out that the wheels and treadmill are meaningless?
Why should it take this many pages before people figure out that the wheels and treadmill are meaningless?
#131
08-24-2006 | 07:11 PM
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OMG GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA.
Say you have the same plane... and It wants to take of on this supercool treadmill of never ending runway.
But, intead he taxi's on the treadmill the WRONG WAY? now he is pointing in the DIRECTION of the movement. He sits still on the ground... he starts to accelerate but the treadmill matches his movement! the plane gets up to 100 knots and he takes off... but... the treadmill matched his 100 knots and the wheels were standing perfectly still the whole time... he launched at 100 knots and only 100 knots, not 200.
Does that help?
Say you have the same plane... and It wants to take of on this supercool treadmill of never ending runway.
But, intead he taxi's on the treadmill the WRONG WAY? now he is pointing in the DIRECTION of the movement. He sits still on the ground... he starts to accelerate but the treadmill matches his movement! the plane gets up to 100 knots and he takes off... but... the treadmill matched his 100 knots and the wheels were standing perfectly still the whole time... he launched at 100 knots and only 100 knots, not 200.
Does that help?
#132
08-24-2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostalker
OMG GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA.
Say you have the same plane... and It wants to take of on this supercool treadmill of never ending runway.
But, intead he taxi's on the treadmill the WRONG WAY? now he is pointing in the DIRECTION of the movement. He sits still on the ground... he starts to accelerate but the treadmill matches his movement! the plane gets up to 100 knots and he takes off... but... the treadmill matched his 100 knots and the wheels were standing perfectly still the whole time... he launched at 100 knots and only 100 knots, not 200.
Does that help?
Say you have the same plane... and It wants to take of on this supercool treadmill of never ending runway.
But, intead he taxi's on the treadmill the WRONG WAY? now he is pointing in the DIRECTION of the movement. He sits still on the ground... he starts to accelerate but the treadmill matches his movement! the plane gets up to 100 knots and he takes off... but... the treadmill matched his 100 knots and the wheels were standing perfectly still the whole time... he launched at 100 knots and only 100 knots, not 200.
Does that help?
lol....
you mean as in the treadmill basically shot him off the end? well... he would fly.
done.
CAN SOMEBODY CLOSE THIS FREAKIN THREAD???????????????
#133
08-24-2006 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper
You gotta be kidding me right?
lol....
you mean as in the treadmill basically shot him off the end? well... he would fly.
done.
CAN SOMEBODY CLOSE THIS FREAKIN THREAD???????????????
lol....
you mean as in the treadmill basically shot him off the end? well... he would fly.
done.
CAN SOMEBODY CLOSE THIS FREAKIN THREAD???????????????
#137
08-24-2006 | 09:23 PM
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well im not going to lie the first couple pages i was dead set on it wont fly, cuz the info was all jacked up on the question. but after a few pages i was 50-50 and i was just argueing one 50% side. i have a bunch of ideas that you guys havent mentioned that will make you think it will fly. but i do know that their are only 8 planets. but there might be 9 again. cuz their thinking of makeing the earths moon a planet, which would be gay
#138
08-24-2006 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S
well im not going to lie the first couple pages i was dead set on it wont fly, cuz the info was all jacked up on the question. but after a few pages i was 50-50 and i was just argueing one 50% side. i have a bunch of ideas that you guys havent mentioned that will make you think it will fly. but i do know that their are only 8 planets. but there might be 9 again. cuz their thinking of makeing the earths moon a planet, which would be gay
its all good. now admit the damn plane CAN take of. lol.
#139
08-24-2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
yup...thanks for the info. it didnt take an entire thread and a billion posts for me to realize you are correct about the planet thing. its all good. now admit the damn plane CAN take of. lol.
its all good. now admit the damn plane CAN take of. lol.
#141
08-24-2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
Oh Jesus H christ. lol...I see your game now...haha.
#144
08-24-2006 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
your like a misquito. lol. its all good man...I know you know the correct answer.
#145
08-24-2006 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S
you know whats crazy. i think before this thread opened i had like 620 posts. i better stop before i get flammed. i think ill take a week off
#146
08-24-2006 | 10:21 PM
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From: JACKSON NJ
Originally Posted by 1 BAD S
you know whats crazy. i think before this thread opened i had like 620 posts. i better stop before i get flammed. i think ill take a week off
lol
#150
08-24-2006 | 10:50 PM
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eh im actully happy this tread was started it made the time at work go by faster.
and in all actuality we REALLY will not know it could be true or it couldn't and untill some crazy mothaFer actually spends the money and builds the worlds biggest treadmill and gets in to a jet to do this. Non of us will not honestly know.
NOW CLOSE THIS DAMN TREAD!
and in all actuality we REALLY will not know it could be true or it couldn't and untill some crazy mothaFer actually spends the money and builds the worlds biggest treadmill and gets in to a jet to do this. Non of us will not honestly know.
NOW CLOSE THIS DAMN TREAD!
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