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Old 06-07-2006 | 06:38 AM
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Hey all,
I'm assuming that Randy would probably be the best source on here for the answers I need, but if any of you can provide some help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

First, I do not have a lease agreement, so this isn't a posting about how I can try and get one over on my dealer/manufacturer/etc. This is actually to see of I can F*** over my sister-in-laws now ex-fiance.

Background: They've been living together in a house that she bought (using her and her parents money only as a down payment) specifically for them to live in after he proposed to her. This was about months ago. Over the last couple months he's been getting very abusive, both physically and verbally, and very controlling and domineering. Up until this past Monday night, it had been mostly verbal. But they got into a fight, which resulted in 2 kicked in doors (see pics), him throwing her against the island in the kitchen which left bruises and impact cuts across the length of her lower back, bruised arms from grabbing her and hiiting them as she defended herself, and various other cuts & abrassions.

So yesterday, I took off work, met her at her house, and helped pack all her stuff, and moved it and her into mine and my wife's house. Then I took her to the local county police office, where she filed a domestic abuse claim against him, and they took her statement and pictures of her body. I also e-mailed the pics I had taken (the two here plus another 14) with my camera-phone. Then we went to the county sheriffs office, where they did the same thing, but then also she was able to get an emergency protectve order against him.

So, to the lease questions. From talking to her, when the Magistrates office pulled up his record to add the protective order to his file, she noticed that he has an expired/dropped Bench Warrant. Apparently, a while ago, he had gotten stopped by the police for traffic violations (multiple violations from a single stop) and his license was suspended for non-payment. Then he got stopped again, and was summoned for a court appearence for driving on a suspended license. Only he never went, which is why he had the Bench Warrant issued against him.

So now, he's driving a leased car on a suspended license, and after the series of tickets he got, his auto insurance company dropped him, so he's also driving without any insurance.

So, if you haven't figured it out yet, what I'm trying to find out is, woulf either one of, or both of these things, be cause for Chrysler (who he leased the car thru) to cancel the lease agreement and take back the car, (hopefully) or at the least to take action of any kind against him?
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 07:07 AM
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I would assume they would take action, since its a requirement to have a drivers license (pretty sure) and if not atleast insurance to cover the property their leasing....
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 08:03 AM
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I thought you had to show some proof of insurance before you could sign a lease? Unless his insurance was dropped after he got the least. If it was dropped pre-lease they could get him for insurance fraud, maybe?!?!?
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
I thought you had to show some proof of insurance before you could sign a lease? Unless his insurance was dropped after he got the least. If it was dropped pre-lease they could get him for insurance fraud, maybe?!?!?
Yeah, the tickets, court date, and insurance dropping all happened after he'd had the car for a while.
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
I thought you had to show some proof of insurance before you could sign a lease? Unless his insurance was dropped after he got the least. If it was dropped pre-lease they could get him for insurance fraud, maybe?!?!?
I believe you do, but if it was dropped after he signed it. I believe they will go find an insurance carrier for him and back charge him when he was dropped...They don't care about prices, they WILL find someone no matter what the cost....


You can go this route RCTrucker7 if you want him to get backed up in bills, then once he doesn't pay it'll screw his credit and they will eventually take the car back...
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 01GTBlown
I believe you do, but if it was dropped after he signed it. I believe they will go find an insurance carrier for him and back charge him when he was dropped...They don't care about prices, they WILL find someone no matter what the cost....


You can go this route RCTrucker7 if you want him to get backed up in bills, then once he doesn't pay it'll screw his credit and they will eventually take the car back...
HeHeHe... I likey-likey!!!

No matter what, I'm going to call Chrysler Financial, and also stop by a local dealer and see if they can give me any useful info too.

By the way, here's the two pics I forgot to put up in my original post.
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 02:20 PM
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I dunno how it is there, but in the state of NC if you lose your insurance / don't pay your insurance, then the insurance company is required by law to notify any owner of vehicles on your policy / the dmv that you no longer have insurance. Then they hit you up with a ton of fines and you must forfeit the car after either 30 or 45 days.
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 02:22 PM
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P.S. If you REALLY wanna get him, follow him one night when he's driving and then call the police with the tag number and report a drunk driver speeding and swerving. They are required to investigate and pull him over, so then they'll get him for the no insurance and suspended license regardless of if he's drunk or not.
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rejekt
P.S. If you REALLY wanna get him, follow him one night when he's driving and then call the police with the tag number and report a drunk driver speeding and swerving. They are required to investigate and pull him over, so then they'll get him for the no insurance and suspended license regardless of if he's drunk or not.

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Old 06-07-2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rejekt
P.S. If you REALLY wanna get him, follow him one night when he's driving and then call the police with the tag number and report a drunk driver speeding and swerving. They are required to investigate and pull him over, so then they'll get him for the no insurance and suspended license regardless of if he's drunk or not.
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Old 06-07-2006 | 05:00 PM
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this may help or not, but i used to sell chryslers and jeeps. from my experience chrysler dosnt really give two ***** as long as you send them your payment each month. in fact i've seen it take as long as four months of non-payment for chrysler to finally repo a car. so i would go with the suggestion above, tail him and report him as a drunk driver, he gets popped and arrested, car gets impounded, fines fines fines, cant make the payment to chrysler, loses car, credit get jacked, gets a new job working at mcdonalds...all in a days work...
 
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Old 06-07-2006 | 06:23 PM
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You must have ins on a leased car, if you notify chrysler they will repo the car
 
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Old 06-08-2006 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bcassette
this may help or not, but i used to sell chryslers and jeeps. from my experience chrysler dosnt really give two ***** as long as you send them your payment each month. in fact i've seen it take as long as four months of non-payment for chrysler to finally repo a car. so i would go with the suggestion above, tail him and report him as a drunk driver, he gets popped and arrested, car gets impounded, fines fines fines, cant make the payment to chrysler, loses car, credit get jacked, gets a new job working at mcdonalds...all in a days work...
Yep, stopped by his dealer, and they said the same thing. They couldn't care less what he does to/with the car as long as his payments come in on time and don'ty bounce. However, as someone else here said, they will run a check to verify if his listed insurance company at the time of the lease still has an active policy for him. If not, they will buy their own policy and back date the cost to time of termination, and it usually will cost 3-4 times what you'd pay yourself.
 
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Old 06-08-2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
He abused one of your family members...cut his f-u-c-k-i-n-g throat! Screw messing around with his car or $$ situations...I'd confront him and get him to throw first then apply some techniques I learned to break a few limbs...done deal...I couldnt rest until he was bleeding, broken, crying and had s-h-i-t himself from being so scared I was gonna kill him. Sorry, and I know 2 wrongs dont make a right, but he hurt her, now its time for him to hurt...X10.
Well, between my wife (her sister) and their mom and dad (who came down from Jersey to help her deal with all this, and are staying with us too) it's kind of hard to get my hands on him. She's got the emergency protective order and is arranging to file formal charges against him, so they don't want me doing anything to him to jepordize that. (Although when I got home yesterday, my father-in-law told me that he did come by my house to see my sister-in-law and that he said she doesn't want to see or talk to him, and that it would be best if he left. I told him I wish I had been there, I would've answered the door, grabbed him and dragged him in the house and beat the crap out of him, then called the cops and say that he forced his way in after I told him he should leave and then tried to attack me. My whole family of in-laws are way to nice.) So, I've consigned myslef to other means of F'ing with him. Example; He works for an IT Services company as essentially a salesman for them. He tries to get them signed up by other companies to provide those companies with IT Support. I was able to get the names of 4 companies that he was responsible for signing up with his company. I then got the CEO & VP info of those companies along with the departments and a point of contact with them that would be responsible for making the contracts with his company. Then I got the CEO, VP, CFO, and General Counsels names and contact info for his company. Then a nice e-mail was sent to all, letting his company know what type of people they're employing and the companies they've contracted support for, the type of person that they were/are dealing with and that if he's this way with a person he supposedly loves, then what could they really expect as a business that he no longer needs to be concerned about, because they've already signed?

Another thing I did, was to contact an ex-girlfriend of his, who happens to be the mother of his only son. She and him also happen to be gearing up for a custody case. On a scale of 1-10, guess how happy she was to hear all of this?
 
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Old 06-08-2006 | 09:33 PM
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If you can get him to enter your home, or your sisters home and it becomes assaultive, you can get him for breaking and entering with a first degree assault charge on top of that which can put him in prison for up to life. Also, you have the full legal right to kill him where he stands. Self defense is a great law. Just make sure he "enters without invitation" and that he has no legal right to be in that house.

BTW watch how you mess with any business he has. He can always get you for slander and sue you for the $$ amount of business he feels he has lost due to your slanderous comments. It does work lol....
 
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