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Old 05-20-2006, 07:44 AM
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Default Something i don't understand about the "da vinci code"...

The book is listed as fiction. It was written as a fiction. The facts used in the book are absurd(atleast from what I've seen of it). And its book is a top seller and has been for a looooon time for fictonal works. So why is there such a controversy about it, and why are some people starting to believe the book??? I've seen people who, after watching the movie, are saying "wow, i cant believe Jesus had a kid and got married' IT'S A FICTIONAL STORY!!!!! The author doesn't try to hide that fact, but some people are just...er...nvm...


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Old 05-20-2006, 07:46 AM
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Havent read the book based on all of that. Id like to see the movie though.

Remember when fiction becomes popular, fact is overruled by fiction.
 
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Old 05-20-2006, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
The book is listed as fiction. It was written as a fiction. The facts used in the book are absurd(atleast from what I've seen of it). And its book is a top seller and has been for a looooon time for fictonal works. So why is there such a controversy about it, and why are some people starting to believe the book??? I've seen people who, after watching the movie, are saying "wow, i cant believe Jesus had a kid and got married' IT'S A FICTIONAL STORY!!!!! The author doesn't try to hide that fact, but some people are just...er...nvm...


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The Da Vinci code has become popular because people always love the idea of thinking that something they have been told all their life may not be true (Jesus and Mary, The Holy Grail, etc....)

Why people sometimes believe that some aspects of the book/movie are true is because Dan Brown mixes facts in his book with fiction ideas. Instead of it being all fictious ideas or being a book filled with facts, it is a mixture of both that can cause a lot of confusion. So during a certain part of the story, part of it may be factually true, but another part may not.

I dont think people actually believe that what Dan Brown says is 100% factual, I think people just think it is fun to think "What if...."
 
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:05 AM
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Yes, its the whole What if scenario. Some people have such a hissy fit because the book is VERY convincing, and they are worried (they being mostly religious bible-belters) that people who dont have a strong grasp on their faith might be swayed into thinking something untrue. But Ill tell you what...that book will make you scratch your head.
 
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:39 AM
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I've watched a few things on the History & Discovery Channel and it's kind of a weird story because there are factual things in the book.....but the facts get mixed with fiction....so that's where people get a little confused by the truth vs fiction.

I think there is nothing wrong with making people think about things a little bit. Not saying people should take fiction as the truth, but it doesn't hurt to explore different things. I might get flamed for this, but I'm not a fan of religion at all so it cracks me up when all of these people get there panties in a bunch over a book that challenge it.
 
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:37 AM
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The main problem churches(or christianity in general) has a problem with is, as matt said, it can sway those who dont know their stuff. If I had very little knowledge of the bible or the history of the bible, I could very well be swayed to believe what the da vinci code suggests. And those "christians" who know very little of the bible will leave the movie thinkin "wow i didnt know *insert absurd lie here*"
 
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people who argue over fiction books need to get a life...
 
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The book and/or the movie is fiction. But it has factual merit if being half truths. That is enough to get the public interested in it. Escpecially young people who wouldn't otherwise give a crap. Now that there is something else to be considered it will raise the interest level. How can one find out the truth. You can read the bible and learn more but it's confusing at times. I personally think the author is a genius for writing it. He sold over 45 million copies. Plus he started a debate about what the truth is. So you would almost certainly have to research church history, and the old and new testaments.. It aint so ho hum anymore. There's a new twist in the story Christians have believed in for 2000 years..
 
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Originally Posted by rebelyell
The book and/or the movie is fiction. But it has factual merit if being half truths. That is enough to get the public interested in it. Escpecially young people who wouldn't otherwise give a crap. Now that there is something else to be considered it will raise the interest level. How can one find out the truth. You can read the bible and learn more but it's confusing at times. I personally think the author is a genius for writing it. He sold over 45 million copies. Plus he started a debate about what the truth is. So you would almost certainly have to research church history, and the old and new testaments.. It aint so ho hum anymore. There's a new twist in the story Christians have believed in for 2000 years..
yah... theres a book called the DAVINCI HOAX which dis credits that fictional book...

my mom read it... I don't read... better stuff to do... like wrench on cars... drink... fish... drink... work... drink... beer... yum... :banana:
 
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Originally Posted by GREG@SN95
people who argue over fiction books need to get a life...
Seeing as to how we're talking about christianity and all...i'll just say...

Amen brotha.......
It's a freakin movie/book. People need to find other things to do.
 
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Originally Posted by macs03GT
Seeing as to how we're talking about christianity and all...i'll just say...

Amen brotha.......
It's a freakin movie/book. People need to find other things to do.
It is NOT christianity... It is a fictional book... thats why its caused contaversy... cause people think that because its writen on christian writing or whatever that it is true... Its fiction... they might as well argue that there is no such thing as green eggs and ham...
 
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i saw the movie last night i honestly think it sucked, maybe its because i never read the book but even my g/f who had read the book said it was whack. It was just soo long and boring
yah... i wanna see the movie w/ the cruise ship that sinks
 
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I think you gotta read the book first before you can comment on this whole thing. The movie was just so so and really didn't do a great job depicting the book. I thought the book was MUCH better.

Again, the reason for why the book is so controversial is because the book contatins both factual statements and fictious ideas and at times, it is unclear whether a statement is a fact or something made up.
 
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Originally Posted by GREG@SN95
yah... theres a book called the DAVINCI HOAX which dis credits that fictional book...

my mom read it... I don't read... better stuff to do... like wrench on cars... drink... fish... drink... work... drink... beer... yum... :banana:

Better stuff to do??? Like post on an internet message board??! :loser: :loser:
Hehe.
 
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I wanna go see the movie. Im sure it wont hold up to the bar the book set for me, but it shouldnt be too bad I suppose. For those of you that like The Da Vinci Code, read Dan Browns other book, Angels and Demons. Its a great book as well. Very easy to get addicted to...
 
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Me and the fiancee are going to see the movie later today. I read the book and thought it was great but you have to take it as it is, a work of fiction. Just like any other of the hoax claims such as the 911 conspiracies and faked moon landings, I find them interesting but take them as they are - entertainment and not truth. If the davinci code was passed off as a factual book, then I'd understand an uprising against it, but it wasn't. Religious leaders throwing a fit about sure made Dan Brown a lot of $$$$$>
 
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Originally Posted by Brandman316
Better stuff to do??? Like post on an internet message board??! :loser: :loser:
Hehe.
 
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It's good to know you guys have a good head on your shoulders. There really is no reason for the church to get upset. And as rebel said, if anything, it should make christians investiate christianity's history so they can know the concrete facts. Oh well
 
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
It's good to know you guys have a good head on your shoulders. There really is no reason for the church to get upset. And as rebel said, if anything, it should make christians investiate christianity's history so they can know the concrete facts. Oh well
Yes, but you know people. Theyd rather complain about something than actually go do some research. Its kinda like the Harry Potter bullcrap, people got all hissyfitty about it, when they dont do ANYTHING bad. STFU crazy people. :loser:
 
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Originally Posted by dannyb785
It's good to know you guys have a good head on your shoulders. There really is no reason for the church to get upset. And as rebel said, if anything, it should make christians investiate christianity's history so they can know t[heB] concrete fact[/B]s. Oh well
if any ...........
 
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Originally Posted by Badfish
if any ...........

lol. you're a funny guy
 
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As a Christian who has studied this subject matter (church history, archeology, and The Bible and it's history) I offer this as reason for the controversy.

At the beginning of the book, or the inside cover it says, more or less, that all depictions of art, architecture, organizations, and rituals are accurate. Then there "historian" throws out all these statements as fact all the way to the climax of the plot...

They are not. Look it up.

Madonna on the Rocks is painted on wood not canvas.

The Louvre pyramid doesn't have 666 glass panels. More like 672

It says the Bible was not intact as we know it today until The Nicean Creed happened. And that the Divinity of Jesus was decided there. It says that there were at least 80 Gospels that were available but "the church" suppressed the ones that showed Christ's Humanity there. All of which is not true and can be researched if you really care to know the truth.

The problem isn't the Christian objection to the movie. The problem is the "truth" presented in the movie, that is absolutely false. It's so blatant to the point of trying to make Christianity into something it is not now nor ever has been.

It analogous to saying someone you know personally and intimately is a bigot and a liar when you know them to be nothing of the sort. I suspect if you cared about them at all you would stand with them or at least up for them to denounce and/or refute the lies.... But that's just my opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by caballo
As a Christian who has studied this subject matter (church history, archeology, and The Bible and it's history) I offer this as reason for the controversy.

At the beginning of the book, or the inside cover it says, more or less, that all depictions of art, architecture, organizations, and rituals are accurate. Then there "historian" throws out all these statements as fact all the way to the climax of the plot...

They are not. Look it up.

Madonna on the Rocks is painted on wood not canvas.

The Louvre pyramid doesn't have 666 glass panels. More like 672


It says the Bible was not intact as we know it today until The Nicean Creed happened. And that the Divinity of Jesus was decided there. It says that there were at least 80 Gospels that were available but "the church" suppressed the ones that showed Christ's Humanity there. All of which is not true and can be researched if you really care to know the truth.

The problem isn't the Christian objection to the movie. The problem is the "truth" presented in the movie, that is absolutely false. It's so blatant to the point of trying to make Christianity into something it is not now nor ever has been.

It analogous to saying someone you know personally and intimately is a bigot and a liar when you know them to be nothing of the sort. I suspect if you cared about them at all you would stand with them or at least up for them to denounce and/or refute the lies.... But that's just my opinion.
You made a good point and IMHO this book/movie, which I have not read or seen,is going to make an impact because they're 3 kinds of people. Devout Christians who have no other concept that Jesus is the savior. (and have been saved)..

People who believe there is a higher power but haven't given their souls to Jesus because they are sceptical about the whole religious thing.

And there are the ones who don't think it really exists at all.

I fall in the middle of these categories. I try to live by the rules given to us. I think in my heart I am a very good person. I really wouldn't hurt a fly if I didn't have sometimes. But maybe this movie will make someone younger than myself "think" about what the truth really is. I don't think todays youth even give a **** about suffering, or doing good, or even caring about people they should love. I consider my self a christian but not a whorshiper.. Anyone else feel that way?
 
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Old 05-23-2006, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rebelyell
You made a good point and IMHO this book/movie, which I have not read or seen,is going to make an impact because they're 3 kinds of people. Devout Christians who have no other concept that Jesus is the savior. (and have been saved)..

People who believe there is a higher power but haven't given their souls to Jesus because they are sceptical about the whole religious thing.

And there are the ones who don't think it really exists at all.

I fall in the middle of these categories. I try to live by the rules given to us. I think in my heart I am a very good person. I really wouldn't hurt a fly if I didn't have sometimes. But maybe this movie will make someone younger than myself "think" about what the truth really is. I don't think todays youth even give a **** about suffering, or doing good, or even caring about people they should love. I consider my self a christian but not a whorshiper.. Anyone else feel that way?
I guess what it all boils down to is The Truth of the Scriptures (aka the Bible)... You have basically two questions you have to answer in your life at some point.

One:

Is Jesus Christ who he and the Bible say he is?


Two:

What difference does it make?


When you answer those two question objectively and honestly your life will change. Whether or not it's in the "affirmative" or the "negative"...
 
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