stupid friend...
 

Ok guys, my friend is "suppost" to get a 00ish Trans Am and laughs at me cause he will beat me in a race...

what would i need mod wise (N/A) that could allow me to beat a stock trans am in my auto...?

thx.... (he is getting in August)

Hmm...

5.7-liter OHV V8
320 horsepower @ 5200
345 pound/feet @ 4400
56.5 horsepower/liter

You have your hands full there buddy. It's an LS1 so if it's modded at all you better believe it's breathing well. And if his is a stick then say hello to his taillights. Don't plan on beating him without being blown.

Tell your buddy to race me because you will get embaressed....lol

so basically mustangs arnt fast at all unless u got cash for a s/c? when he can pay 10K for a trans am same yr as mine, got mine for 10K and basically eat me alive....thats lame...

wut if i just get a nitrous to ONLY spray when i race him? LOL? will that work?

well if your car is stock under the hood....you have a lot of money to spend if you want to even have a chance to keep up with him. but i would say every bolt on (full exhaust, tb/plenum, cai, pulleys), gears, cams, and a new torque converter would help you beat a manual TA. if its an auto then you could prolly get by without the cams or torque converter.

LoL, don't forget about the heads.

Gears and a 100 shot will take him.

i beat one with nothing more then cai,nitto drags and off road h-pipe.

its all in the driver and i was the one with the advantage. his was a 01 auto bird with lid thats it. beat it by 2 cars to 80mph when i shut down. He was right with me though.

my buddy has a GT with gears, throttle body and 100 shot and it smokes trans am all the time, it even takes out 03/04 cobras.

dont get so frustrated when racing LS1's.. just remember it's a freaking 5.7 liter engine, you only have a 4.6 liter engine. My buddy has a 98 TA LS1 and they are no joke.

m0nkeh wants to stay N/A and nitrous would not exactly be N/A.

btw.. when my buddy goes over 90mph it feels like his car is about to fall apart and kill us all in the process. That's why your stang is better right there lol.


but I beat him from a roll before I put my cams in

lol...well i do got like wut rest of april and may june july and august to beef up my car and hopfully beat him...? lol

i want to eventually just drop a new engine in my car BUT for one, idk what to get and where and such. (( would this work, or be too big? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=4050 )

If i did... SLP1 + Xpipe + Gears/Tune + Tb/PLenum + U/D Pullies + Torque convertor + CAMS

would i be even CLOSE to him or just get all that and run like a 75shot if i got juice......lol (one thing about it, what else do u need to run nitrous "safer")

it depends about how much he mods his car... like I said before no matter what he's got a jump on you because its a 5.7 liter engine, when he mods he's gonna gain more power per mod than you do. so if you do all that stuff you could most likely take him, but if he goes and does a few mods of his own it will make it all more difficult

well he wants to race like as soon as he gets the car, so itll be stock.

soo much easier to just add a 75 shot and do your exhuast and gears, but if you must stay n/a i guess thats a good idea.

Gears, exhaust, and a 3000 stall torque converter and some drag radials. This should be enough

i said that..so i mean i just might get the juice just to beat him and i guess bring up my times...lol

Take my advice, and seriously, take it. If you REALLY MUST beat your friend, and wont be happy unless you do, DO NOT TRY TO DO IT N/A. He will make you even more pissed off everytime he beats you for the money you spent that you THOUGHT would beat him. Go buy 4.10's, a nitrous kit, and a tune, and be done. Dont do this BS heads/cams/exhaust thing thinking that it will handle it. If he cant drive, sure, it will do the trick, but all he has to do, is get a cam, exhaust, and god forbid, a bottle of spray, and that 5k that you spend making your car fast n/a will be USELESS. Either buy a bottle, or buy a blower, well, or sell your car and get a t/a because the LS1 is a bad bitch, and you have to find happiness in your slow mustang because its a mustang, not because you beat an ls1. 8 out of 10 times, you will lose to them. Unless you have mad skillz at teh driving like spike :D

Why are you so worried about trying to do all this stuff to your car just to beat your friend? Do what you want instead of doing anything possible to be his T/A. Personally our cars look much better than theirs do anyway so atleast you have that on him. Mod your car but don't do it just to beat him.

Hell like I said bring him to the track and i'll race him......

Think of this, Ls1 = Michael Jordan
4.6l = Scottie Pippen

Pippen was a bitch compared to jordan but was better than 90% of the players when he was in his prime. Even tho the 99-04 mustangs are not the fastest, they still hold their own.

ok...fine... :(

lets say i did get nitrous, what would i need to be able to run the nitrous as safe as possible (tho nitrous isnt safe...)

and i do wanna atlaest do gears and exhaust for my car...

((and i kno he wont do nitrous on his car so thats not a worry))

I'm so sick of kids saying "nitrous isnt safe" ....nitrous can be safe but in the hands of of kids who dont know what they are doing then s*** goes wrong. If your going to put nitrous just to use one race its not even worth the effort because you have no idea what your doing and I bet you would be too scared to flip the switch. Hands down at this point he will hand you your a$$ without trying.

Nitrous is safe if you keep it on the d/l, get the venom kit that shuts off if the A/F ratio isnt prime for nitrous.

just go a 75 wet and call it a day its safe on stock everything.

im not gonna do it ONCE, id do whenver i go to track....y use nitrous going on i4?

Well, for one thing, you are going to have to test the stuff out somewhere, get used to it, get used to how your car reascts to having ~75 horses shoved down its mouth all of the sudden. Not to mention... we all like to have a little fun on the interstate when no one's looking eh? :beerchug:
Along with that NAWZ invest in a good radar detector... dont tell me they arent worth it, if they save you once its paid for itself, just dont think you are invulnerable young padawon.

Damnit, nitrous is only unsafe because of that damn movie. Nitrous is JUST AS SAFE as a blower/turbo when run correctly. Just like if you run too much boost, you can blow your motor, if you run too much nitrous, and/or dont have the other safety stuff, of course you will kill your car. Be smart, get a window switch and keep the shot/use down, and youll be fine. Look at spike, he's been using nitrous for like 4 years now, with two different cars, never even had a dyno tune, and is doing fine. Now, Id still strongly recommend a tune for it, but IT CAN BE DONE JUST AS IF NOT SAFER THAN A BLOWER.

what year is it?...if it's an LT1 and not an LS1...you have way more of a chance...I'm thinking it is an LT1 if he got it for 10k.....and as slappy says, and I agree...we have the slowest fast cars around...ours are more of a combo of looks, sound, speed, and comfort. 5.7 L hmmm I wonder WHY he would be you? who cares..if you wanted a raw power factory, shouldn't have bought a mustang...IMO Mustangs are the best all the way around

1998 and later f bodys are ls1's. If its a 2000, its def an ls1.

oh...I missed the "00ish"

Before I bought my stang, I test drove an 01 z28. The salesman was a younger guy so he let me play with the car a little, that thing was completely stock and ran like a beast. The ls1 is a bad bitch, but I couldn't justify $22,000 for a used z. (a couple yrs ago)

thats for making my point i didnt feel like doing it.

I ran nitrous on my f150 for a long time on a 150shot on a 2v 4.6

i have been on nitrous for over a year 4 months untuned on a 125shot on my mustang. Its all about saftey learn how it works how to read plugs if you wanna go big like me and you can be safe. I am however getting a tune this summer finally. not to be safer but to get more n/a power out of my car. oh and i have never blown a motor on the bottle, trannys yeah i blew two in my f150. but thats a whole different animal right there, heavy truck light duty tranny doesnt work.

The guy three houses down from me has two Camaros, a 2000 z28 and a 01 SS. The z has the basic mods, sames as most of us, ex,tb,no cats,gears-I think, runs like it ! prob a few others. I've driven the z and it's sick fast(5sp). I love my Mustangs, always have, but like some have told you without a power-adder you will not win stock-vs-stock or even you with all the bolt-ons. now if you did bolt-on everything you can, you would run damn close if not win. Remember, there's no sub for cubic inches!

alright, your all right and im retarded then...and that is true, mustangs arnt the fastest, but all around are nice cars...looks...leather comfort...and still got the speed..

sry for being lame about it and stuff... think is i prolly dont think nitrous is that safe YET cause i dont kno ALOT about it and havnt used it personally i guess...

but if i got nitrous, wut brand would be best bet and such...and would i need anything new to run the nitrous better? like pistons or a fuel pump?

prolly a stupid question so if sum1 could just post a link to an MT post of nitrous or sumtin...thx

Like i said a simple wet kit with a 75 shot would be very safe and can be run on a totaly stock motor, you dont need anything but install the kit and use 93 octane gas when you spray and run copper plugs one step colder such as NGK tr6's part number 4177 at any parts store. for you i wouldnt recomend over a 75 till you learn more about it.
As per what kit there are tons out there all good. For a beginer who wants a safe easy to install kit i would say ZEX is your best bet, they can be had for cheap off ebay and install is easy and they will not spray if the fuel pressure gets low (aka a built in fuel pressure saftey switch).

how much would the NX kit cost to get installed and dyno'd correctly assuming you already have the kit...

(sry not to hijack the thread but I think this is relavent...)

Install the kit yourself. I dont know very many people that install them and if they do they will charge a arm and a leg. Where I got mine dyno'd it was $499 with equipment.....I had the tuner already so it cost me $350 for 3 tunes

So total under $800-900

price ranges alot. If you have a freind who knows how to wire things up he can do it with you its rather easy actuly.