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badassGT 08-21-2009 06:25 PM

short shifter question
 
Ok, What is the best one to buy and how will this add on improve the performance of my stang or is it just cosmetic

rkaz 08-21-2009 06:45 PM

http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_shifter.shtml
It's on my wish list, or my damn I'm so broke I can't afford to pay attention but I want this stuff list.

Pyrosis 08-21-2009 06:46 PM

i have a steeda and to be honest the one thatwas on my car before seemed a lot shorter but it was thrown away and have no idea what it was. it gives you faster shift times from the reduced throw, helps you find 3rd and 4th easier and makes it look good.

BikerSk8rKid 08-21-2009 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 425085)
http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_shifter.shtml
It's on my wish list, or my damn I'm so broke I can't afford to pay attention but I want this stuff list.

Mine looks smaller. That one looks BIG.

Tape 08-21-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by badassGT (Post 425083)
Ok, What is the best one to buy and how will this add on improve the performance of my stang or is it just cosmetic

definitely NOT cosmetic.

spike_africa 08-22-2009 05:31 AM

Any aftermarket shifter is good. just pick one you like and go for it.

badassGT 08-22-2009 07:06 PM

Thanks for the feed back

01FR500 08-23-2009 10:28 AM

I like my MGW, I've never tried a different aftermarket shifter though. I love how short the throw is, precise, fluid, and sure. To bang through the gears it's just 'click, click, click' and your in third. I've never had a problem with a heel-toe down shift. Gave a friend a ride that had a B&M or something shifter and he said that mine was shorter and just felt better overall.

bassman97 08-24-2009 01:36 PM

Hurst FTW. Looks the best (nothing like a chrome stick and white ball for that retro flare), adjustable neutral spring, multiple sticks available, and a OEM supplier. Again though, there is very little difference between all the good manufacturers, just pick one you like.

garrett01001 08-25-2009 09:33 AM

MGW ftw (you can always buy a different ball bassman..)

wildride02gt 08-25-2009 09:51 AM

I gotta vote for PRO 5.0. I've had a Hurst, and Summit Racing shifter, but the PRO 5.0 has been the best by far. I just swapped the handle and ball off of an old Hurst, and it looks and works great.http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...g/P1010807.jpghttp://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...g/P1010813.jpg

Leonide 08-25-2009 11:10 AM

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i have a Hurst shifter. it works great. better than the stock one. i vote for Hurst. i got mine from LRS
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Tape 08-25-2009 04:39 PM

^^^^^^sure don't look short

wildride02gt 08-25-2009 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Tape (Post 425633)
^^^^^^sure don't look short

short-throw shifts, long handle for reach. I don't know about you, but I've always found the shifter position in the SN95's and New Edge to be a little too far forward. I don't like having to reach for the shifter.

Tape 08-26-2009 04:57 AM

the factory shifter and the aftermarket shifter are the same other then the bushings, the only thing that makes it a "short throw" is the length of the shifter arm, in other words if you install a shorter arm on the factory shifter you have a short throw shifter just not as good.

wildride02gt 08-26-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tape (Post 425691)
the factory shifter and the aftermarket shifter are the same other then the bushings, the only thing that makes it a "short throw" is the length of the shifter arm, in other words if you install a shorter arm on the factory shifter you have a short throw shifter just not as good.

I beg to differ, friend. the length of throw is not determined by just the handle. the "throw" in a shifter is the distance between gears in the shifter itself. That distance is greatly reduced by using an after market piece. If you take a stock shifter, with stock handle, and compare it to an after market shifter with stock handle, you will notice the shortened throw. Its hard to explain in words, but I'll try. Lets say that on a stock shifter the movement distance from neutral to a gear is 1" travel. On a "short-throw" shifter, that movement distance is reduced to, say, 1/2". You get that good,fast, solid, shift feel as you run through the gears.

rkaz 08-26-2009 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by wildride02gt (Post 425745)
I beg to differ, friend. the length of throw is not determined by just the handle. the "throw" in a shifter is the distance between gears in the shifter itself. That distance is greatly reduced by using an after market piece. If you take a stock shifter, with stock handle, and compare it to an after market shifter with stock handle, you will notice the shortened throw. Its hard to explain in words, but I'll try. Lets say that on a stock shifter the movement distance from neutral to a gear is 1" travel. On a "short-throw" shifter, that movement distance is reduced to, say, 1/2". You get that good,fast, solid, shift feel as you run through the gears.

Very true, if not y would you pat almost $200 for a new shifter when you could find a way to cut off your stock shifter.

Tape 08-26-2009 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by wildride02gt (Post 425745)
I beg to differ, friend. the length of throw is not determined by just the handle. the "throw" in a shifter is the distance between gears in the shifter itself. That distance is greatly reduced by using an after market piece. If you take a stock shifter, with stock handle, and compare it to an after market shifter with stock handle, you will notice the shortened throw. Its hard to explain in words, but I'll try. Lets say that on a stock shifter the movement distance from neutral to a gear is 1" travel. On a "short-throw" shifter, that movement distance is reduced to, say, 1/2". You get that good,fast, solid, shift feel as you run through the gears.

if thats what you believe then believe it, you cannot change anything but the length of the shifter arm, the shifters stock and aftermarket have the exact same travel, or it wouldn't work, you cannot change the travel in the transmission, only the length of the shifter arm defines it as a shortshifter.

Tape 08-26-2009 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by rkaz (Post 425747)
Very true, if not y would you pat almost $200 for a new shifter when you could find a way to cut off your stock shifter.

because the factory shifter is crap with loose and spongy bushing, factory has it designed to make it quieter.

Steeda21 08-27-2009 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Tape (Post 425849)
if thats what you believe then believe it, you cannot change anything but the length of the shifter arm, the shifters stock and aftermarket have the exact same travel, or it wouldn't work, you cannot change the travel in the transmission, only the length of the shifter arm defines it as a shortshifter.

you are 100% wrong...

Quicker, More Positive Shifts. The Roush 5-Speed Short Shifter reduces shifting travel by 55% to provide quicker, more positive shifts and gets rid of that sloppy feeling that many stock factory shifters have.

the reason its called a short shifter is because there is less distance to throw it into each gear. Trust me i drove 3 gt's before i bought this one. A roush with the short shift kit, a stock gt and then my gt that has a pro 5.0 shift kit. The pro 5.0 was night and day compared to the other 2 mustangs. Just because you shorten the length of the handle, doesn't mean you don't have to shift as far. You are still shifting the same distance as if you had the stock telephone pole of a shifter. Think about it, why in gods name would a shorter arm cost 180 bucks+??

garrett01001 08-27-2009 03:03 AM

part of the price comes from what it's made of I think

Shifter assembly is completely machined from aircraft grade aluminum and all billet components are hard coat anodized for a lifetime of service. All steel components are aircraft grade stainless steel.
MGW short throw ^


But I have to agree, it's not just handle length

Tape 08-27-2009 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Steeda21 (Post 425859)
you are 100% wrong...

Quicker, More Positive Shifts. The Roush 5-Speed Short Shifter reduces shifting travel by 55% to provide quicker, more positive shifts and gets rid of that sloppy feeling that many stock factory shifters have.

the reason its called a short shifter is because there is less distance to throw it into each gear. Trust me i drove 3 gt's before i bought this one. A roush with the short shift kit, a stock gt and then my gt that has a pro 5.0 shift kit. The pro 5.0 was night and day compared to the other 2 mustangs. Just because you shorten the length of the handle, doesn't mean you don't have to shift as far. You are still shifting the same distance as if you had the stock telephone pole of a shifter. Think about it, why in gods name would a shorter arm cost 180 bucks+??

wow, I don't know what to say but wow.... you two have no idea how the shifting components in the trans works.

01FR500 08-27-2009 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Tape (Post 426006)
wow, I don't know what to say but wow.... you two have no idea how the shifting components in the trans works.

I think maybe we're talking about two different things. The mechanisms within the transmission are a constant. It is true that you cannot change those. However, the shifting mechanism can be changed. Think of the base of the shifter as a fulcrum of leverage and the handle(length) of the arm as a whole used to shift the gears. If you move fulcrum up or down, or add length to one side or the other, different amount of movement and forces are needed to cause a change, as in shift the gears.

bassman97 08-27-2009 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by garrett01001 (Post 425554)
MGW ftw (you can always buy a different ball bassman..)

But the Hurst stick won't fit on the MGW.

Tape 08-27-2009 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 426010)
I think maybe we're talking about two different things. The mechanisms within the transmission are a constant. It is true that you cannot change those. However, the shifting mechanism can be changed. Think of the base of the shifter as a fulcrum of leverage and the handle(length) of the arm as a whole used to shift the gears. If you move fulcrum up or down, or add length to one side or the other, different amount of movement and forces are needed to cause a change, as in shift the gears.

if you take a stock shifter and flip it over then measure the travel of the ball it will be exactly the same of any "short throw shifter" I have researched all this, I'm not saying it's not worth changing from stock to aftermarket, it should be one of the first mods done to ones mustang.

Steeda21 08-27-2009 10:08 PM

im not going to waste my energy to tell you what a douchebag you sound like for thinking you know all. Don't see why you have to get your shit tied up in a knot just because i said i think your wrong. Don't forget we are all on the same team here.


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 425119)
Any aftermarket shifter is good. just pick one you like and go for it.

i like the pro 5.0. Nice, smooth and well priced. Just hope around the forums and see what people say about the ones your looking at. I believe they are pretty similar other than handles and little things like that.

PureStang 08-27-2009 11:19 PM

i have a hurst short throw shifter and it is a world of difference between that and stock..i dont have any fancy chrome shifter with white ball..

i personally have a hurst short throw base, mgw blue shifter arm, and stock knob and it looks like stock. i wouldnt have it any other way. i honestly love how it feels in my hand. not too far to push into first, and just perfect to rest my arm on in 4th.

i wish i had a photo of my interior....but its hard to do with the stang 150 miles away... :-(

Steeda21 08-27-2009 11:40 PM

anyone know if i can attach any arm/handle to the pro 5.0? It is kinda short, but its not any issue i just want a longer one maybe.

rkaz 08-28-2009 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Steeda21 (Post 426131)
anyone know if i can attach any arm/handle to the pro 5.0? It is kinda short, but its not any issue i just want a longer one maybe.

Not 100% sure but from the looks of it they can use any handle. I know that some people useing the stock handle on the steeda's and they look to be close to the pro 5.0

Tape 08-28-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Steeda21 (Post 426118)
im not going to waste my energy to tell you what a douchebag you sound like for thinking you know all. Don't see why you have to get your shit tied up in a knot just because i said i think your wrong. Don't forget we are all on the same team here.


go fk yourself asshat! I don't know all but I know alot! "Don't forget we are all on the same team here.
LOL same team, do you call your team-mates douchebag:rolleyes:
yeah, dont waste your time because your will find out your wrong!


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