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Old 11-16-2008, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazerred6
No i can manually start in 1st or 2nd with my auto


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I believe that the computer will take over if I try to take 1st or 2nd past redline but I have never tried and I don't plan to
Of all the auto cars I've driven (2 Mercury minivans, F150, F250, and Civic), only the F250 allowed me to do that. All the others, if I put it in 2, it would start off in 1, shift to 2, and stay in 2 until the engine blows or if I shift it to 3 or D.
 
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:42 PM
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Ha your a mets fan? Sucks to be you.
 
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:13 PM
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Hey, at least I'm not a Rockies fan. lol
 
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by doobie
i had ~125lbs evenly spaced over the axle. i dont mash the pedal in the winter either because in chicago, all that does is make your rear end go where the front is supposed to be. i've just had alot better luck with a good set of snow tires and careful driving.
I'm from Chicago too. I tried the sand bag crap with the stock goodyears for 1 month 3 years ago. It might have helped, but it certainly did not help enough. Once there was a few inches of snow on the ground I wasn't going anywhere. I got some used Bridgestone Blizzaks for $400 and threw them on because the weight in the trunk was just not helping me. With the snow tires you do not need any extra weight in the trunk. My car does fine in 6" of snow. The hardest part is getting in and out of an unshoveled parking spot. Last year I was doing 55mph on the highway in a blizzard when everyone was going 40mph. The car felt perfectly fine. Not once did I feel like I was going to loose control.
 
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:58 AM
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the extra weight in the trunk may help with traction while accelerating but when STOPPING, the tires (if youre not running snow tires) are going to slide.

i experienced this the night i first got my snow tires installed. i was on the way to get them installed and we had just got over a foot of snow that day and i had drag radials on. it was the first time i'd driven the car in snow so i wasn't sure how it handled. i went to stop extra soon at a light and i still almost hit a car in front of me because it couldnt get traction and slid. once i got the tires on that night i was flying through snow with no problems as long as you have proper throttle control. braking is 100x easier.
 
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:37 AM
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Guys, one thing to think about when putting stuff in the trunk for weight, that stuff could end up hitting you in the back of the head. Just be careful and make the right deceisons and watch out for the other 100000 idiots that aint watchiing you. Good Luck
 
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Originally Posted by blownstang
I'm from Chicago too. I tried the sand bag crap with the stock goodyears for 1 month 3 years ago. It might have helped, but it certainly did not help enough. Once there was a few inches of snow on the ground I wasn't going anywhere. I got some used Bridgestone Blizzaks for $400 and threw them on because the weight in the trunk was just not helping me. With the snow tires you do not need any extra weight in the trunk. My car does fine in 6" of snow. The hardest part is getting in and out of an unshoveled parking spot. Last year I was doing 55mph on the highway in a blizzard when everyone was going 40mph. The car felt perfectly fine. Not once did I feel like I was going to loose control.
Well there's your problem. If there's anything a Mustang owner should know and that is the stock Goodyear ZR17s suck, period. Doesn't matter if the ground is dry, wet, snowy, or icey, they suck. My Wide Ovals, which are a summer tire, does better in the snow than the old Goodyears. In fact, it's amazing that despite how much they suck, they are more expensive than the tires that outclass it.
 
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Originally Posted by bassman97
Of all the auto cars I've driven (2 Mercury minivans, F150, F250, and Civic), only the F250 allowed me to do that. All the others, if I put it in 2, it would start off in 1, shift to 2, and stay in 2 until the engine blows or if I shift it to 3 or D.
The stang does it and it's saved me from sitting at an intersection many a time.

When there is snow on the grond I try to never go into 1st
 
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I bought a beater. F snow.
 
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I'm poor married and my mustang is my beater
 
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Hmm, maybe I just never noticed before since the 150 had the 4R70W but it also had enough torque to over power to e-brake at idle while the 250 is a complete dog.
 
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Originally Posted by HokieStang00
I bought a beater. F snow.
I rather be stuck in a rwd car w/ a posi than fwd and no posi. The posi has saved my *** too many times for me to even consider doing the snow w/o it. However, if your beater is a 4wd truck, ignore me.
 
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Originally Posted by bassman97
Well there's your problem. If there's anything a Mustang owner should know and that is the stock Goodyear ZR17s suck, period. Doesn't matter if the ground is dry, wet, snowy, or icey, they suck. My Wide Ovals, which are a summer tire, does better in the snow than the old Goodyears. In fact, it's amazing that despite how much they suck, they are more expensive than the tires that outclass it.
I only had the car for 2 months back then so I had no idea about how the Goodyears sucked. I have had BFG KDW II's as my summer tires for 2 years now. When I hear that there will be at least an inch of accumulation, that is when I go throw on the snow tires. I got my 2 rear 255/40/17 BFG's for $50 less than stock Goodyear replacements would have cost me.
 
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Figures, it doesn't take long to learn.
 
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i'm not even going to try to drive my GT in the snow. i have a Mazda 626 that is FWD and paid for that i can use for winter duties. but it burns me, because i REALLY want to drive my mustang...especially since i can get a nice hurst short throw shifter. i miss Cali weather.
 
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626 as a winter beater FTL they suck in snow
 
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Originally Posted by bassman97
I rather be stuck in a rwd car w/ a posi than fwd and no posi. The posi has saved my *** too many times for me to even consider doing the snow w/o it. However, if your beater is a 4wd truck, ignore me.
I would never go to a fwd car for the winter if I could help it. If you guys could see my driveway, there's not much but a 4wd vehicle that could make it up. Even then it's still a bitch.
 
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My v6 with Tiger Paw® Touring tires gets me around in the winter haven't gotten stuck yet only have like maybe 6 inches of snow so far but I think it'll be just fine
 
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Originally Posted by Black Sunshine
Yet another reason why I love sunny, non-winterland Florida.

 
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazerred6
626 as a winter beater FTL they suck in snow
it did a lot better than my Mustang, which has summer tires. my Mazda has Goodyear Viva 2's on it, and it did wonderful in the snow. it only slides when i slam on the brakes, or mash the throttle.
 
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My Mother in law has one and I can't stand the thing I would much rather drive my stang
 
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:41 PM
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Got another 5 inches today went drifting on some country back roads for awhile
 
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:46 PM
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We can get anywhere between a nice little dusting of snow all of the way up to two feet here in town. We're on the border of the bad stuff, so we'll see.
 
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Originally Posted by Flynnster
I will be putting some tractor weights in my truck this winter, 2WD FTL (sometimes)
ya representing holt michigan, i have been there a few times. it's my last name ironically...and tractor weights?
 
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Originally Posted by blownstang
I'm from Chicago too. I tried the sand bag crap with the stock goodyears for 1 month 3 years ago. It might have helped, but it certainly did not help enough. Once there was a few inches of snow on the ground I wasn't going anywhere. I got some used Bridgestone Blizzaks for $400 and threw them on because the weight in the trunk was just not helping me. With the snow tires you do not need any extra weight in the trunk. My car does fine in 6" of snow. The hardest part is getting in and out of an unshoveled parking spot. Last year I was doing 55mph on the highway in a blizzard when everyone was going 40mph. The car felt perfectly fine. Not once did I feel like I was going to loose control.
part of that is also because you have t/c...some of us arent that lucky
 
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p.s. it was fun driving today and yesterday in about 11 inches!!
 
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangman95gt
part of that is also because you have t/c...some of us arent that lucky
T/C! Are you kidding! That sh^t is off all the time. I haven't used it in almost 3 years. It took me a few weeks of winter driving to figure out that t/c does not help at all. Should've had the tuner turn it over permanently last year when I got the car tuned.
 
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Originally Posted by blownstang
T/C! Are you kidding! That sh^t is off all the time. I haven't used it in almost 3 years. It took me a few weeks of winter driving to figure out that t/c does not help at all. Should've had the tuner turn it over permanently last year when I got the car tuned.
X2. Ford made it so it would always kick in when you didn't want it and when you wanted, it would not kick in. In fact, because of TC, I got stuck on the smallest little hill 2 winters ago in which it took me an hour to go up it. Since TC kicked, I lost momentum and went sideways just enough to get out of the tracks and into slush. The limited slip is the only God sent anyone needs.
 
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Originally Posted by bassman97
X2. Ford made it so it would always kick in when you didn't want it and when you wanted, it would not kick in. In fact, because of TC, I got stuck on the smallest little hill 2 winters ago in which it took me an hour to go up it. Since TC kicked, I lost momentum and went sideways just enough to get out of the tracks and into slush. The limited slip is the only God sent anyone needs.
i actually left the TC on the other night. we got 5" of snow on the highway and they didnt plow any of it for rush hour. took me 6 hrs to get home. Anyway, going uphill+5" of snow/slush+rwd=fail. the traction control saved it. in that much snow, any blip of the throttle makes the rear end boogie with the trac control off, especially with the stupid v6 rear diff.
 
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I guarantee you that backing off the throttle yourself when you start to feel it slipping is going to be better than letting Ford decide. You my friend got very lucky w/ TC.
 


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