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Old 05-21-2006, 09:44 PM
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What would it take to beat a Vette?:helpsmili
 
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:49 PM
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:46 PM
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supposedly, aggressive gearing, great traction, and good shifting can compete. But if youre not so skilled, I'd say around 300 rwhp with stock gearing. A little less might be needed if you have 373 or 410
 
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It depend's on what year of the Vette!!
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:19 AM
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a supercharged v6 mustang

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but yea with your '05 get her up to ~ 300whp and some traction and your good to go.

well i assume your talking about C5's right?
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:24 AM
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another vette with a better driver, or spike strips.
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:53 AM
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hope its not the TT c6 zo6. if so your screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:03 AM
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I'd say you'll need around 315+ rwhp & 4.30 gears to beat one *C5* from a stop. From a roll it'll be pretty close, you'll jump him hard with the gears and he should start to gain some of that jump in 3rd gear.

That was the scenario for me when I ran a lightly modded c5 *roll races* & I have 3.73 gears *teh suck * From a dig I was getting killed due to a bad rearend.
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 04:22 PM
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It depends on the Vette. I raced two at the track and spanked both of them. They were running in the 15's so were slow as hell.

The driver mod is oh soo important too and most guys think they are better then they really are. I can tell you one thing that since installing my blower, my car is fast as hell as is definately a Vette eater, maybe not all vettes, but a lot of them. BUT, I still need to learn to drive better. The more power you make, the less forgiving your car is when you make a misstake. Things like missing a shift or loosing traction become much bigger of an issue.

I did absolutely rape a blown WRX last week. It was funny as hell hearing his blow-off valve as he was shifting like a **** and I just went right around him like he was jogging. Dam blower is soo much fun it takes a great deal of maturity to keep your foot off the floor.

So, I would say, blow the biatch and you should ramp many a Vette. If any are still faster then you at that point, hey, so what. Like someone already pointed out, all it takes is money.
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:54 PM
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Yeah, the bastard pulls up on my rear bumper. I change lanes because i am comming to my exit. Then, naturally, he nails it and passes me. He gets about 2 cars in front and I lay it down. I actually past him as I took the exit ramp in about a second. He never saw it comming.

Now, back to the vette.....
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:32 PM
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C5's run mid 13's. I can beat their brains out all night long. They will come after you at the top end so you need gears and traction to get a jump on them.
I would not want to run one from a roll on the freeway lol.
Dr's, 4.10's and some bolt on's will do the trick at the track.
 
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:30 PM
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just depends on the year. a full bolt on new edge should be a good race for a stock c5 if you have some steap gears and a great launch.

I've taken out a C5 with ease but I'm a tad beyond stock. I'd like to see how I can do against a C6 one of these days.
 
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My dad just got the brand new corvette convertable this weekend. Not the z06. What would I need to beat him, do you think I can do it with the mods i have on now? my car came stock with 285hp and 330tq. I know the new vette stock is like 400hp or something.
 
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Originally Posted by p3s7_01
My dad just got the brand new corvette convertable this weekend. Not the z06. What would I need to beat him, do you think I can do it with the mods i have on now? my car came stock with 285hp and 330tq. I know the new vette stock is like 400hp or something.

Sorry for this stupid comment, but it reminds me of when I was a kid and my dad would say he "beat me up" every morning, and he was right, he always got up earlier than I did.
 
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Originally Posted by Blue02GT
I would not want to run one from a roll on the freeway lol.
Dr's, 4.10's and some bolt on's will do the trick at the track.

I agree.....don't try to run them on from a roll on the freeway. I also have smacked several c5 vette's on the street....but I leave them alone on the freeway. I have also been embarrassed by a modded c5 zo6....I had a half car length on him through 1st and 2nd gear, but when he hit 3rd gear he literally gave me the peace sign and freaking took off...ha ha ha....

You might want to look into some weight reduction because I think once you get the driver and gas into an 05+ they are fat and happy!
 
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a blown cobra and a prayer
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:28 PM
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100-shot wet, and drag radials......have witnessed it myself! A '02 GT with just exhaust/intake with BFG drag radials and a 100 wet shot....ate up 2 C5's and a C5 z06.
 
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well my buddy and i have been out to test this theory before, and here were the results. my friend has an 87 automatic and we took it to the track. he ran 8.91 1/8th mile (street tires, 252 rwhp) and the auto vette (same driver) and whatever the stock specs are on that car, and the vette ran 9.06 on street tires. I took my completely stock 89 stick, along with a 2000 stock manual, and got basically the same results, 8.89 mustang, 8.97 vette. so with the foxbodies... its do-able. Anyone that doubts me... >you are on the left :bash: < i am on the right. keep in mind it was stock tires, and we tried to keep it all the same. then again, the fox body mustangs were the fastest production mustangs, with the 89-91 being the fasted, rated at 225 hp stock
 
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:47 PM
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umm....the fox bodies may have been the fastest production in the late 80's and early 90's but 225hp isnt much compaired to the Modular 4.6's coming with 260hp and more. All cars perform different with different drivers....i've seen stock vettes with 30day tags go mid 8's 1/8 mile with old guys driving! As far as the older vettes go...they are just a joke anymore especially and Auto.
 
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still, the fox bodies may not have the most horse power, but with the weight and the torque, they are the fastest. i mean in reality, hp has nothing on who will win a race, like you said, its based on the driver, and weight. i mean if ur telling me that a 250 hp 6 cylinder camry is going to take ANY mustang, thats just crazy. (a little exaggeration there)
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 89stang
still, the fox bodies may not have the most horse power, but with the weight and the torque, they are the fastest. i mean in reality, hp has nothing on who will win a race, like you said, its based on the driver, and weight. i mean if ur telling me that a 250 hp 6 cylinder camry is going to take ANY mustang, thats just crazy. (a little exaggeration there)
How would you consider them the fastest? if you're talking modded then that's out the window because that's purely based on how deep your pockets are.

If you're talking about minimal boltons on a stock car, then there's no contest mod motors win :clap: I'm not bashing pushrod motors at all, they're great engines
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:23 AM
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no i'm talking straight out of the factory completely stock, the fastest production. maybe not most hp, maybe not most torque, but definitely the fastest
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:36 AM
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FWIR, bone stock 5.0's turn in high 14 second to low 15 second slips... bone stock 99+ GT's are a full second faster. Just a few mods to a 5.0 can get you a big power increase and they are pretty light cars but they're not really that fast in stock trim.
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:56 AM
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well i'm not saying ur wrong or anything.. well maybe i am... but when my car was 100% stock right down to the tires from the factory, it ran 13.8 3 passes in a row. fastest was 13.6. so i'm not sure where your sources said 14-15 1/4mile. my father bought the car in sept 1989 and i bought it off him. i've seen the slips and i know that it is 100% stock
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 89stang
no i'm talking straight out of the factory completely stock, the fastest production. maybe not most hp, maybe not most torque, but definitely the fastest

yeah i second what r3dn3ck said... there's no way foxbodies were the fastest... thats just being ignorant. i guess you forgot about the cobras? they were production vehicles too. heck look at the new 3v's. they may be ugly but they are certainly fast production stangs. around 2 seconds faster than stock foxbodies.

fox bodies were great cars in their day, faster than most any other car out there but as technology improves the cars are only getting faster. 5.0's are ineffecient motors, thats why simple bolt-ons make such big power on them. im not saying they're bad, just ineffecient compared to todays motors.


edit: we're way off subject here, time for a new thread...
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:04 AM
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I could easily be wrong about the times but that's all I've ever come to expect from them after seeing a few dozen go down the track. Perhaps your driving skill is superior enough to the average fox pilot that you carved a half second off your time. Without seeing a time slip I can't begin to guess or confirm the claim.

Post a slip if you can.. I'd like to see the 60' time.
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:09 AM
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Back to the topic....a mustang CAN beat a vette with the right work done and good driving.....Who cares about a stock foxbody they are antiques now.
 
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 89stang
well i'm not saying ur wrong or anything.. well maybe i am... but when my car was 100% stock right down to the tires from the factory, it ran 13.8 3 passes in a row. fastest was 13.6. so i'm not sure where your sources said 14-15 1/4mile. my father bought the car in sept 1989 and i bought it off him. i've seen the slips and i know that it is 100% stock

even with a 13.6 (which is a damn good time for a stock 5.0) you're not comparing your times with the best times for a modular. you're only comparing it to what you've read on the forums. people have taken bone stock 2v stangs into the very low 13's and i've heard even high 12's. 3v's have gone 12's a bit easier. im not even gonna bring up the 4v cobras or the blown 4v cobras again.
 


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