Has Anyone Seen This Before?

Beer_farts · 04-14-2005, 10:56 PM

Just wondering if anyone has ever tried one of these.
http://www.turbonator.com/index.html

rebelyell · 04-14-2005, 11:26 PM

I was looking at that in a magazine. Vortec makes one of those. Guaranteed to boost your HP or money back. easy to install (takes 5 mins it says). we need a guinea pig here to try it and see. I would do it but I'd have to get a note from my doctor first. any volunteers?? :toothy11:

Just dont leave the screw

driver on your motor like the illustration shows..

BeatTheBrat94 · 04-15-2005, 01:35 AM

Don't bother with them... Anyone here remember or have ever heard of the Tornado Air System. It's a rip off of that, basically. And both are about as "lame" as you can get for "aftermarket hp gains". As per my knowledge to the Tornado, if you watch the info-mercial closely, you can see their claims of 20+ hp gains are momentary at best, and also pay close attention to what make/model cars have the biggest "gains". Obviously you can tell I'm not fan of these devices... If you want to spend your money to try them out, by all means, go for it. I just think that it's a waste of money/time. Just my thoughts on it.

USMCstang · 04-15-2005, 03:51 AM

Dude...its a complete waste of money. The "swirling" effect does take place, but the minute that swirled air hits the top of the intake manifold it goes back to normal.

Maybe if you had an individual runnered stack type race manifold and bought 8 of them, one for each stack it would help....wait...no it wouldn't. They're a restriction and a gimmick

*venom* · 04-15-2005, 05:26 AM

I remember this when it first came out. Its actually made for marine applications, not sure for what. Whats funny is that it states as seen on several mags but they are paying for advertisement not that those mags installed or reviewed it. :laughing3

Islander03GT · 04-15-2005, 06:04 AM

I'll make you one out of a soup can and some tin snips for half price if you really want to try it.

Mustang Tuning · 04-15-2005, 06:42 AM

Well, I have one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33741 and I picked up 6 tenths in the quarter mile!

WaterDR · 04-15-2005, 07:37 AM

These things kind of scare me. Think about it. To make more power, you need to bring in more air and fuel. Right? Assuming these pupies bring in more air with the swirling affect, is the MAF able to pick up on it? Will more fuel be able to be added correctly?

Show me an independant dyno and I might start believing.

USMCstang · 04-15-2005, 07:51 AM

They don't bring in more air...even if they worked like they said they did.

Thier claim is that it "swirls" the air that does come in, thus creating more efficent combustion. It's all a marketing ploy. For these things to work, they would have to be in each individual intake port in the heads, and the swirl dams/ quench pads would need to be removed from the heads. Think of all the turns and variations the air has to take past the MAF. First it's "split" by the throttle blade, thend it turns 90 degrees at the plenum. In the lower intake, it flattens out against the bottom of the manifold, then is spilt again 8 times, turns back up into the runners, does a another U-turn near the top side of the runners, then down into the intake ports, which curve, past the valve, which "spreads it out", hits the swirl dam/ quench pad in the combustion chamber of the heads...where it is FINALLY mixed with fuel spray from the injectors.

If this thing can keep the air swirling, "promoting better combustion and adding 20 HP", after all that, I want MT to start carrying them...I'll buy 2.

I have an electric hair dryer that I'm gonna fab into my intake system...it has a high and low setting, so I can change the amount of boost. I'm gonna hook a shop vac up to my tailpipes as well...to "promote better exhaust scavenging"

04-15-2005, 05:33 PM

Heh. Ive been tempted to pick up a turbinator just to see if it works or not.

I wouldnt mind, and they are not too expencive. Maybe ill order one up, go dyno my car, bolt it on, and dyno it again. see what really happens with them.

im pretty skeptical about them though.

If i do it ill be sure to post the results, but regardless it will be coming right back off. How can i have something called the "Turbonator" installed in my car and take myself seriously?

Ill buy one and try it out and mail it to whoever wants to try it. Keep it moving around. <G>

BeatTheBrat94 · 04-15-2005, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCstang

They don't bring in more air...even if they worked like they said they did.

Thier claim is that it "swirls" the air that does come in, thus creating more efficent combustion. It's all a marketing ploy. For these things to work, they would have to be in each individual intake port in the heads, and the swirl dams/ quench pads would need to be removed from the heads. Think of all the turns and variations the air has to take past the MAF. First it's "split" by the throttle blade, thend it turns 90 degrees at the plenum. In the lower intake, it flattens out against the bottom of the manifold, then is spilt again 8 times, turns back up into the runners, does a another U-turn near the top side of the runners, then down into the intake ports, which curve, past the valve, which "spreads it out", hits the swirl dam/ quench pad in the combustion chamber of the heads...where it is FINALLY mixed with fuel spray from the injectors.

If this thing can keep the air swirling, "promoting better combustion and adding 20 HP", after all that, I want MT to start carrying them...I'll buy 2.

I have an electric hair dryer that I'm gonna fab into my intake system...it has a high and low setting, so I can change the amount of boost. I'm gonna hook a shop vac up to my tailpipes as well...to "promote better exhaust scavenging"

Omg, that's the funniest thing I have heard all night... LOL. I needed that. But, yeah, you're right. They don't do jack.

rebelyell · 04-15-2005, 11:00 PM

I wonder if it sounds like a blower with the air swirling around and all that. Poor mans blower. kinda like having a timing "gear" drive instead of a chain and sprocket. I remember those days..:laughing1

2000 STEEDA · 04-16-2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Tuning

Well, I have one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33741 and I picked up 6 tenths in the quarter mile!

This is a joke, right?

Because I'll go buy five of them this very minute.

MattJ · 04-16-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slappy

Heh. Ive been tempted to pick up a turbinator just to see if it works or not.

I wouldnt mind, and they are not too expencive. Maybe ill order one up, go dyno my car, bolt it on, and dyno it again. see what really happens with them.

im pretty skeptical about them though.

If i do it ill be sure to post the results, but regardless it will be coming right back off. How can i have something called the "Turbonator" installed in my car and take myself seriously?

Ill buy one and try it out and mail it to whoever wants to try it. Keep it moving around. <G>

That sounds like a great idea. We should get a group of people, mabye 5 or so, and pitch in and buy one. we will all circulate it around for testing...

dannyb785 · 04-16-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Well, I have one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&category=33741 and I picked up 6 tenths in the quarter mile!

yeah, it was definitely hard to tell if bob was serious about that. 20-40hp for $100? im in. he added that lil crazy face at the end of his statement, so dangit. its hard to tell. Chances are though, if BOB got it and it worked well, I think he'd carry it on the site. IMHO.

ThePunisher · 04-16-2005, 06:19 PM

Several years ago when the original gimick device came out I read about it in a "Sport Truck" magazine where the magazine put one in a 97 S-10 I think. Running the 1/4, with it in, they supposedly picked up 2/10s. They took it out and lost 2/10s. Put it back in and picked them back up. If I remember right the S-10 was a 4.3 with a 5-speed, CAI, exhaust, programming, drag radials, and ran a 15.3 without it and a 15.1 with it. Could just have been propaganda to promote it.

rebelyell · 04-16-2005, 09:05 PM

Lol. read some of the feedback on this thing. One guy went from 34 HP to 44 HP after he got one. Geez I would hate own a dodge neon. But most of the feedback says a gain in MPG. That's nice I guess but wouldn't an increase in HP cause less MPG? This probably aint the same contraption as the tornado thing for 19.99 (as seen on TV). It even looks a little cool, like a mini blower :icon_tong . 69 bucks is a lot to pay for something that don't do squat. But too dam cheap to gain what it says. I think our fine MT guys should try this out and give us members the (2 snaps up or 2 snaps down). loved it, hated it, lol :hiding:

dannyb785 · 06-08-2005, 06:34 AM

Im bumping this bc I'm hopefully getting a large chunk of change through fafsa as well as a new job which I make so much more money, so when I have a comfortable amount, I'll blow $70 on it and let you guys know.

USMCstang · 06-08-2005, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyb785

Im bumping this bc I'm hopefully getting a large chunk of change through fafsa as well as a new job which I make so much more money, so when I have a comfortable amount, I'll blow $70 on it and let you guys know.

More power to ya man, keep us updated. I'd rather spend the $70 on something more constructinve...like beer.

dannyb785 · 06-08-2005, 06:54 AM

lol, I hear ya man...but the only reason I would buy it is if the fafsa thing goes through. The estimated total I should get is over $7000 just bc Im a fulltime college student with a divorced family. I'll keep yall posted.

Mustang Tuning · 06-08-2005, 07:21 AM

Hey Danny, I could use a supercharger. Wanna sponsor me with that money? I'll put your name on my car. Just think how popular you will be on the forums when you have dannyb785 on a bright red supercharged Cobra!

dannyb785 · 06-08-2005, 07:51 AM

in the words of napoleon dynamite....sweet!!! the words "dannyb" pasted on the side of a torch red cobra....ahhh im drooling..

ill have the 5k sent thru paypal in no time...

Mustang Tuning · 06-08-2005, 07:56 AM

My Paypal address is...

LOL

I need a better picture of my car. Oh and btw, its PERFORMANCE RED!!! Identical color to the 2000 Cobra R, which was at Carlisle this weekend next to the '93 Cobra R and the '95 Cobra R. It was also next the the new GT500 which is a pretty sweet car. I may have to get one of those.

The1Neo · 09-28-2005, 01:33 PM

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html

09-28-2005, 02:58 PM

yeah, i dont know anyone who has tried it, but the general concensus is that it is crap. They dont offer any dyno graphs.
its one of those things if ya got a few extra bucks and go in not expecting anything, it might be fun to try out. Ive thought about getting one and seeing for myself and putting this matter to rest, but havent gotten around to it.
would be fun to experiment though

it just seems like BS to me. 35hp for that? right.

04-14-2005, 10:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Beer_farts Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 138	Has anyone ever bought this Just wondering if anyone has ever tried one of these. http://www.turbonator.com/index.html

04-15-2005, 01:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
BeatTheBrat94 Form3r L337 KR3W Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 162	Don't bother with them... Anyone here remember or have ever heard of the Tornado Air System. It's a rip off of that, basically. And both are about as "lame" as you can get for "aftermarket hp gains". As per my knowledge to the Tornado, if you watch the info-mercial closely, you can see their claims of 20+ hp gains are momentary at best, and also pay close attention to what make/model cars have the biggest "gains". Obviously you can tell I'm not fan of these devices... If you want to spend your money to try them out, by all means, go for it. I just think that it's a waste of money/time. Just my thoughts on it. __________________ -John 2002 V6... RIP... 1990 Buick LeSabre - winter beater

04-15-2005, 03:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
USMCstang Secretary of Defense Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Akron, OH...5 Mins from Summit Racing Posts: 355	Dude...its a complete waste of money. The "swirling" effect does take place, but the minute that swirled air hits the top of the intake manifold it goes back to normal. Maybe if you had an individual runnered stack type race manifold and bought 8 of them, one for each stack it would help....wait...no it wouldn't. They're a restriction and a gimmick __________________ ~Mike 98 GT 4R70W Buckeye Stangs - Ohio Based Mustang Enthusiasts

04-15-2005, 05:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,228	I remember this when it first came out. Its actually made for marine applications, not sure for what. Whats funny is that it states as seen on several mags but they are paying for advertisement not that those mags installed or reviewed it. :laughing3 __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

04-15-2005, 06:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	I'll make you one out of a soup can and some tin snips for half price if you really want to try it. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

04-14-2005, 11:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
rebelyell unofficial philosopher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,751	I was looking at that in a magazine. Vortec makes one of those. Guaranteed to boost your HP or money back. easy to install (takes 5 mins it says). we need a guinea pig here to try it and see. I would do it but I'd have to get a note from my doctor first. any volunteers?? :toothy11: Just dont leave the screw driver on your motor like the illustration shows..

04-15-2005, 06:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mustang Tuning Mustang Tuning Sales Manager Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Newtown Square, PA Posts: 116	Well, I have one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33741 and I picked up 6 tenths in the quarter mile! __________________ 2001 Performance Red SVT Cobra Best E.T. 13.383 @ 107.49 miles per hour Bob MustangTuning.com

04-15-2005, 07:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,357	These things kind of scare me. Think about it. To make more power, you need to bring in more air and fuel. Right? Assuming these pupies bring in more air with the swirling affect, is the MAF able to pick up on it? Will more fuel be able to be added correctly? Show me an independant dyno and I might start believing. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

04-15-2005, 07:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
USMCstang Secretary of Defense Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Akron, OH...5 Mins from Summit Racing Posts: 355	They don't bring in more air...even if they worked like they said they did. Thier claim is that it "swirls" the air that does come in, thus creating more efficent combustion. It's all a marketing ploy. For these things to work, they would have to be in each individual intake port in the heads, and the swirl dams/ quench pads would need to be removed from the heads. Think of all the turns and variations the air has to take past the MAF. First it's "split" by the throttle blade, thend it turns 90 degrees at the plenum. In the lower intake, it flattens out against the bottom of the manifold, then is spilt again 8 times, turns back up into the runners, does a another U-turn near the top side of the runners, then down into the intake ports, which curve, past the valve, which "spreads it out", hits the swirl dam/ quench pad in the combustion chamber of the heads...where it is FINALLY mixed with fuel spray from the injectors. If this thing can keep the air swirling, "promoting better combustion and adding 20 HP", after all that, I want MT to start carrying them...I'll buy 2. I have an electric hair dryer that I'm gonna fab into my intake system...it has a high and low setting, so I can change the amount of boost. I'm gonna hook a shop vac up to my tailpipes as well...to "promote better exhaust scavenging" __________________ ~Mike 98 GT 4R70W Buckeye Stangs - Ohio Based Mustang Enthusiasts

04-15-2005, 05:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	Heh. Ive been tempted to pick up a turbinator just to see if it works or not. I wouldnt mind, and they are not too expencive. Maybe ill order one up, go dyno my car, bolt it on, and dyno it again. see what really happens with them. im pretty skeptical about them though. If i do it ill be sure to post the results, but regardless it will be coming right back off. How can i have something called the "Turbonator" installed in my car and take myself seriously? Ill buy one and try it out and mail it to whoever wants to try it. Keep it moving around. <G>

04-15-2005, 11:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
rebelyell unofficial philosopher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,751	I wonder if it sounds like a blower with the air swirling around and all that. Poor mans blower. kinda like having a timing "gear" drive instead of a chain and sprocket. I remember those days..:laughing1

04-16-2005, 06:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
ThePunisher Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 624	Several years ago when the original gimick device came out I read about it in a "Sport Truck" magazine where the magazine put one in a 97 S-10 I think. Running the 1/4, with it in, they supposedly picked up 2/10s. They took it out and lost 2/10s. Put it back in and picked them back up. If I remember right the S-10 was a 4.3 with a 5-speed, CAI, exhaust, programming, drag radials, and ran a 15.3 without it and a 15.1 with it. Could just have been propaganda to promote it.

04-16-2005, 09:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
rebelyell unofficial philosopher Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,751	Lol. read some of the feedback on this thing. One guy went from 34 HP to 44 HP after he got one. Geez I would hate own a dodge neon. But most of the feedback says a gain in MPG. That's nice I guess but wouldn't an increase in HP cause less MPG? This probably aint the same contraption as the tornado thing for 19.99 (as seen on TV). It even looks a little cool, like a mini blower :icon_tong . 69 bucks is a lot to pay for something that don't do squat. But too dam cheap to gain what it says. I think our fine MT guys should try this out and give us members the (2 snaps up or 2 snaps down). loved it, hated it, lol :hiding:

06-08-2005, 06:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	Im bumping this bc I'm hopefully getting a large chunk of change through fafsa as well as a new job which I make so much more money, so when I have a comfortable amount, I'll blow $70 on it and let you guys know.

06-08-2005, 06:54 AM	#20 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	lol, I hear ya man...but the only reason I would buy it is if the fafsa thing goes through. The estimated total I should get is over $7000 just bc Im a fulltime college student with a divorced family. I'll keep yall posted.

06-08-2005, 07:21 AM	#21 (permalink)
Mustang Tuning Mustang Tuning Sales Manager Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Newtown Square, PA Posts: 116	Hey Danny, I could use a supercharger. Wanna sponsor me with that money? I'll put your name on my car. Just think how popular you will be on the forums when you have dannyb785 on a bright red supercharged Cobra! __________________ 2001 Performance Red SVT Cobra Best E.T. 13.383 @ 107.49 miles per hour Bob MustangTuning.com

06-08-2005, 07:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	in the words of napoleon dynamite....sweet!!! the words "dannyb" pasted on the side of a torch red cobra....ahhh im drooling.. ill have the 5k sent thru paypal in no time...

06-08-2005, 07:56 AM	#23 (permalink)
Mustang Tuning Mustang Tuning Sales Manager Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Newtown Square, PA Posts: 116	My Paypal address is... LOL I need a better picture of my car. Oh and btw, its PERFORMANCE RED!!! Identical color to the 2000 Cobra R, which was at Carlisle this weekend next to the '93 Cobra R and the '95 Cobra R. It was also next the the new GT500 which is a pretty sweet car. I may have to get one of those. __________________ 2001 Performance Red SVT Cobra Best E.T. 13.383 @ 107.49 miles per hour Bob MustangTuning.com

09-28-2005, 01:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
The1Neo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 109	Has Anyone Seen This Before? http://www.turbonator.com/index.html

09-28-2005, 02:58 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	yeah, i dont know anyone who has tried it, but the general concensus is that it is crap. They dont offer any dyno graphs. its one of those things if ya got a few extra bucks and go in not expecting anything, it might be fun to try out. Ive thought about getting one and seeing for myself and putting this matter to rest, but havent gotten around to it. would be fun to experiment though it just seems like BS to me. 35hp for that? right.