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im not cracking on people but why would anyone get a muscle car and want automatic besides the fact that there good in stop go traffic... its just one of my pet peeves.

For consistantcy. Drag racing.

yeah but still why get a muscle car and have auto whats the point of that .... theres no trying or skill u step on the gas and it goes enough said...childs play

Nothing wrong with an auto. Throw in a shift kit and stall converter, your good to go.

I plan on doing those plus some 373's in mine.

Should more than make up any "loss" from not having a stick in most cases.
Besides, talk to any 'old timers' a modern manual takes no skill compared to the older muscle cars. thsoe things were freakin sensitive and very easy to stall (at least my dad's '78 280z heh) the car's CPU helps out a lot these days.

Driving a stick can be fun, but 99.99% of the time i'm just doing daily driving, not racing, so the auto just makes more sense for me. If i had nice open, traffic less highways, sure a manual would be nice :-)

i like my aod it gets me a-b just like a manual but i dant have to worry about not being in gear after being at a traffic light for a long time. done it a few times in the crx "pos". rohnert park is a land of fine women i worked at "in-n-out burger" there a few times good times good times. boy do i miss those days back at home in the bay area. autos will kill any stick in bracket racing.

Autos are great! They allow you to set your purse on the center console w/o it getting in the way of your driving.

In drag racing, Auto > Manual...ask John Force. :headbang:

I have an auto, wish it was manual though. When i got my stang it was in october, when they were clearing the 04 stangs out anticipating the arrivals of the 05's.

when i got there they had 2 GT's left, both Auto. They only manuals they had were the V6's, and i wasnt gonna buy a V6 if i could get a V8.
I figured i'd be fine with an auto, even tho ive only driven stick in the past.

I'd rather have an Auto V8 than Manual V6.

Id rather even more to have a Manual V8.

I miss the shifter and clutch way more than i thought i would.
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Maybe they have auto's so they can kick the snot out of the "real racers" with manuals. Nothing beats the look on manual owners faces when they find out my car has a stock motor and an automatic tranny after I've just wasted them.

i wanna see a manual mustang with the same mods you have, line up...who will when then. hmmmm i have an idea

Actually I beat manual cars with more mod's than mine every time I go to the track. Look at my times, I run 12.80's with only 251 rwhp. I beat 96 -01 Cobra's and Mach one's not to mention LS1's.
I have been drag racing since 1976 and automatic cars have always ruled the streets and strips. I grew up in the glory days of the muscle car and the automatics cars were always faster. They are easier to launch and are more consistant.

how about this ..a stock auto vs. a stock manual which is faster givin the drivers are the same

best out of 3 runs i would say the auto. just one race h2h isnt enough to rule which one is better or faster.

Stock would be a drivers race, an auto will not launch near as hard as a manual stock. But a stock p.i. head 99-04 auto will hardly spin the tires so it will have a traction advantage. With a good driver the manual should win by a couple of car lengths everytime. In real life on street tires I have never lost to a manual GT at the track. They simply can't hook well enough on street tires. Most of the GT's I have raced are not stock so I can't give you an instance when I ran stock agaisnt a stock manual car. I did alot of research before deciding on my automatic. Contrary to what most GT owners think it is easier to make a automatic fast than a manual. We don't have to worry about blowing up our rear ends like the manuals cars do. The additional 3-5 percent of power loss of an automatic is made up by the ease of launching and the consistancy of shifting. I belong to several online forums and race alot. I see many 265-285 hp manuals that I can whip with 250 hp.

I guess you have never driven a fast car. Come launch mine with 4.30 gears and a 3500 stall speed convertor and tell me there is no skill or set up involved. I see no times listed in your sig. Take your near stock car to the track and come back and post the time slips so we can all get a good chuckle.
People who don't have a fast car and talk crap are one of my pet peeves.

I will admit autos are more consistent but by any means not faster! I have been beat by many autos because I've had tractions problems, not shifting right and so forth! I do think a well built autos are much better for track use but I love shifting my car!:D

auto's arent that bad, if you dont like a auto then dont get one, simple as that. with mine being tuned I have beatin my friends primarily stock 03 gt 5spd. now a couple more tweaks and a tq converter, tranny cooler I will be fine. Yeah its fun shifting but it gets boring after going through stop and go traffic everyday to work

the starter of this thread is an idiot. you dont just stomp and go. you lock in the brake, bring up stall speed, launch, and shift, i just dont like stomping pedals around like a little kid. and anyway, i bet my times get more consinstant and the autos handle a boatload more power. why buy a muscle car and keep it slow?

also...if you drove something faster than a 96 stang (turd) you would realize the potential of an auto. but for you, your car is such a dud that you look for any excitement you can get, whether its shifting gears, or changing cd's while racing. i guess pressing a clutch takes the attention off of the other car leaving you

ah haha this thread keeps getting better

At least his car can actually move :P

Part of me wants an auto, cuz in rush hour traffic I hate the whole clutch procedure...but at the same time I enjoy a manual. Just the whole shifting gears thing gives me an exhillaration and a rush.

put your MV motor, Procharger, 4R70W, drag suspension, built rear, etc in a 2002 manual gt and lets see who wins at the strip... i dont see many autos in the NHRA or Pro drag races, they prefer manual for a reason....hate to say it but id rather go rice the go auto
iv drivin a 2000 auto gt = not fun wanted to fall asleep at the wheel

Talk all the smack you want, my auto will whip yer slow ass milk jug 6 ways from sunday. Dont get upset and start pickin on auto's cause you have one of the slowest stangs ever made. Why dont you go learn to drive that snail of yours then come back.

Driving a 15 second 96 GT and posting crap on a forum with people running 3 seconds faster than you shows the sheer depth of your ignorance. Last time I checked most of the pro's run a modified version of an automatic. :tool:

I think this person is a ricer with a mustang.

yeah i think you are correct this never would have been a thread if he wasn't a ricer at heart bottom line is this is dumb they both have there advantages and disadvantages you just have to choose which you prefer

blue its a little obviouse youd whip my ass at racing givin whats "under the hood" im saying that manual has many more pros than auto when it comes to racing.....agreed?

gotta say i love sticks for the feel of TOTAL shifting control over an auto...but autos have pluses too....no clutches to wear, total consistency, they're programmable.....it's all personal pref

plus someday you'll be beaten by an auto so live with it

and whoever said JOhn Force prefers an auto your'e a f'ing idiot.....first off the pro's "autos" have manual valvebodies, controlled and monitored by CPUs and they have all of like 3-5 seconds to shift going 200 mph, so it's impossible to shift like a manual trans

No I don't think either is better than the other. It all depends on what you want to do with your car. If you like shifting then a manual is what you should go with. If like me you sit in traffic every day, drive in rain, snow etc. Then an automatic is way easier. I just don't think that there is a advantage as far as racing goes. All you have to do to an automatic is add gears and a high stall speed convertor and you have pretty much made up the manuals advantage. As far as what's under my hood it's a stock 02 engine with a plenum and TB, pullies and headers.

were all agreed lets just say this thread is closed

Nevar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't handle the pressure huh?

This is smack talk buddy...

This thread aint closin anytime soon.

im a fan of a manual cause i think an exhaust sounds 10 times better with one cause u can ride the rpm's high and not even need to get on it.

and blue you pretty much just went outrageous with ur gears and stall and get slicks or dr's. i would do the same thing if i could buy a car that nice to basically make a track car. in that case i would do the same thing. but for a street car i think manuals are the way to go. there just not as boring.

I totally agree. Just wasnt a manual on the lot or within any reasonable distance when I bought mine.

I'll race ANY 5-speed NA 96-04GT car...I have 247rwhp thru a 130,000 mile auto. Hows that for which one do I think is better.:) At the track, about 50% of the people with a stick runs slicks, out of those only about 20% know how to set up there cars, so they are easy prey at the track. If you want the best ET out of the box, go with a stick. If you want consistency go with an auto.

Adam

Did you read above? Mine is a daily driver that gets 23 mpg on the highway not a track car. All I did was what Ford should have in the first place. They make these cars for old ladies, it's up to us to help them out a bit.

I have ridden in his car, the only thing that wasn't great was the ride because of the Steeda Sport springs. Which are coming off because they are SLOWING him down at the track. His car gets driven everyday, snow rain sleet hail etc. Deans car is probably one of the fastest truly daily driven cars that I know of. It will be mid 12's soon, which is quite a feat if you ask me.

Adam

ok what people here fail to see is if there was 2 total stock cars 1 manual 1 auto ...likely the manual would beat the auto in a race....if i lived in the city like NY, yeah i would get auto but for racing id deff go manual......how can u not agree????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????

The auto vs. stick debate will never be over until the end of the world.

I say this "you can drive an auto Manustang, just so long as you know how to drive a stick". If there is some guy on this board who bought an auto just because he could not drive a stick, then you better learn fast or else we will torture you.

Auto, stick...who gives a dam. There are advantages of either. There are very fast cars that are autos and and some that are sticks. It all depends how your car is setup and which you prefer.

For consistent, fast launches it is tough to beat an auto with a converter and the right suspension mods.