auto??

96stangGT · 07-21-2005, 07:56 PM

im not cracking on people but why would anyone get a muscle car and want automatic besides the fact that there good in stop go traffic... its just one of my pet peeves.

ThePunisher · 07-21-2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96stangGT

im not cracking on people but why would anyone get a muscle car and want automatic besides the fact that there good in stop go traffic... its just one of my pet peeves.

For consistantcy. Drag racing.

96stangGT · 07-21-2005, 09:17 PM

yeah but still why get a muscle car and have auto whats the point of that .... theres no trying or skill u step on the gas and it goes enough said...childs play

sonikku · 07-21-2005, 10:24 PM

Nothing wrong with an auto. Throw in a shift kit and stall converter, your good to go.

I plan on doing those plus some 373's in mine.

Should more than make up any "loss" from not having a stick in most cases.
Besides, talk to any 'old timers' a modern manual takes no skill compared to the older muscle cars. thsoe things were freakin sensitive and very easy to stall (at least my dad's '78 280z heh) the car's CPU helps out a lot these days.

Driving a stick can be fun, but 99.99% of the time i'm just doing daily driving, not racing, so the auto just makes more sense for me. If i had nice open, traffic less highways, sure a manual would be nice :-)

stanger00 · 07-22-2005, 12:19 AM

i like my aod it gets me a-b just like a manual but i dant have to worry about not being in gear after being at a traffic light for a long time. done it a few times in the crx "pos". rohnert park is a land of fine women i worked at "in-n-out burger" there a few times good times good times. boy do i miss those days back at home in the bay area. autos will kill any stick in bracket racing.

WaterDR · 07-22-2005, 03:31 AM

Autos are great! They allow you to set your purse on the center console w/o it getting in the way of your driving.

USMCstang · 07-22-2005, 05:37 AM

In drag racing, Auto > Manual...ask John Force. :headbang:

07-22-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

im not cracking on people but why would anyone get a muscle car and want automatic besides the fact that there good in stop go traffic... its just one of my pet peeves.

I have an auto, wish it was manual though. When i got my stang it was in october, when they were clearing the 04 stangs out anticipating the arrivals of the 05's.

when i got there they had 2 GT's left, both Auto. They only manuals they had were the V6's, and i wasnt gonna buy a V6 if i could get a V8.
I figured i'd be fine with an auto, even tho ive only driven stick in the past.

I'd rather have an Auto V8 than Manual V6.

Id rather even more to have a Manual V8.

I miss the shifter and clutch way more than i thought i would.
:cwm21:

Blue02GT · 07-22-2005, 07:48 PM

Maybe they have auto's so they can kick the snot out of the "real racers" with manuals. Nothing beats the look on manual owners faces when they find out my car has a stock motor and an automatic tranny after I've just wasted them.

96stangGT · 07-22-2005, 07:56 PM

i wanna see a manual mustang with the same mods you have, line up...who will when then. hmmmm i have an idea

Blue02GT · 07-22-2005, 08:16 PM

Actually I beat manual cars with more mod's than mine every time I go to the track. Look at my times, I run 12.80's with only 251 rwhp. I beat 96 -01 Cobra's and Mach one's not to mention LS1's.
I have been drag racing since 1976 and automatic cars have always ruled the streets and strips. I grew up in the glory days of the muscle car and the automatics cars were always faster. They are easier to launch and are more consistant.

96stangGT · 07-22-2005, 08:50 PM

how about this ..a stock auto vs. a stock manual which is faster givin the drivers are the same

stanger00 · 07-23-2005, 12:16 AM

best out of 3 runs i would say the auto. just one race h2h isnt enough to rule which one is better or faster.

Blue02GT · 07-23-2005, 06:15 AM

Stock would be a drivers race, an auto will not launch near as hard as a manual stock. But a stock p.i. head 99-04 auto will hardly spin the tires so it will have a traction advantage. With a good driver the manual should win by a couple of car lengths everytime. In real life on street tires I have never lost to a manual GT at the track. They simply can't hook well enough on street tires. Most of the GT's I have raced are not stock so I can't give you an instance when I ran stock agaisnt a stock manual car. I did alot of research before deciding on my automatic. Contrary to what most GT owners think it is easier to make a automatic fast than a manual. We don't have to worry about blowing up our rear ends like the manuals cars do. The additional 3-5 percent of power loss of an automatic is made up by the ease of launching and the consistancy of shifting. I belong to several online forums and race alot. I see many 265-285 hp manuals that I can whip with 250 hp.

Blue02GT · 07-23-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 96stangGT

yeah but still why get a muscle car and have auto whats the point of that .... theres no trying or skill u step on the gas and it goes enough said...childs play

I guess you have never driven a fast car. Come launch mine with 4.30 gears and a 3500 stall speed convertor and tell me there is no skill or set up involved. I see no times listed in your sig. Take your near stock car to the track and come back and post the time slips so we can all get a good chuckle.
People who don't have a fast car and talk crap are one of my pet peeves.

*4.6 Love* · 07-23-2005, 08:37 AM

I will admit autos are more consistent but by any means not faster! I have been beat by many autos because I've had tractions problems, not shifting right and so forth! I do think a well built autos are much better for track use but I love shifting my car!

StangMan04 · 07-23-2005, 09:37 AM

auto's arent that bad, if you dont like a auto then dont get one, simple as that. with mine being tuned I have beatin my friends primarily stock 03 gt 5spd. now a couple more tweaks and a tq converter, tranny cooler I will be fine. Yeah its fun shifting but it gets boring after going through stop and go traffic everyday to work

dom · 07-23-2005, 09:38 AM

the starter of this thread is an idiot. you dont just stomp and go. you lock in the brake, bring up stall speed, launch, and shift, i just dont like stomping pedals around like a little kid. and anyway, i bet my times get more consinstant and the autos handle a boatload more power. why buy a muscle car and keep it slow?

dom · 07-23-2005, 09:40 AM

also...if you drove something faster than a 96 stang (turd) you would realize the potential of an auto. but for you, your car is such a dud that you look for any excitement you can get, whether its shifting gears, or changing cd's while racing. i guess pressing a clutch takes the attention off of the other car leaving you

stang00 · 07-23-2005, 12:20 PM

ah haha this thread keeps getting better

Shambles · 07-23-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dom

also...if you drove something faster than a 96 stang (turd) you would realize the potential of an auto. but for you, your car is such a dud that you look for any excitement you can get, whether its shifting gears, or changing cd's while racing. i guess pressing a clutch takes the attention off of the other car leaving you

At least his car can actually move :P

Part of me wants an auto, cuz in rush hour traffic I hate the whole clutch procedure...but at the same time I enjoy a manual. Just the whole shifting gears thing gives me an exhillaration and a rush.

96stangGT · 07-23-2005, 01:11 PM

put your MV motor, Procharger, 4R70W, drag suspension, built rear, etc in a 2002 manual gt and lets see who wins at the strip... i dont see many autos in the NHRA or Pro drag races, they prefer manual for a reason....hate to say it but id rather go rice the go auto
iv drivin a 2000 auto gt = not fun wanted to fall asleep at the wheel

07-23-2005, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96stangGT

put your MV motor, Procharger, 4R70W, drag suspension, built rear, etc in a 2002 manual gt and lets see who wins at the strip... i dont see many autos in the NHRA or Pro drag races, they prefer manual for a reason....hate to say it but id rather go rice the go auto
iv drivin a 2000 auto gt = not fun wanted to fall asleep at the wheel

Talk all the smack you want, my auto will whip yer slow ass milk jug 6 ways from sunday. Dont get upset and start pickin on auto's cause you have one of the slowest stangs ever made. Why dont you go learn to drive that snail of yours then come back.

Blue02GT · 07-23-2005, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96stangGT

put your MV motor, Procharger, 4R70W, drag suspension, built rear, etc in a 2002 manual gt and lets see who wins at the strip... i dont see many autos in the NHRA or Pro drag races, they prefer manual for a reason....hate to say it but id rather go rice the go auto
iv drivin a 2000 auto gt = not fun wanted to fall asleep at the wheel

Driving a 15 second 96 GT and posting crap on a forum with people running 3 seconds faster than you shows the sheer depth of your ignorance. Last time I checked most of the pro's run a modified version of an automatic. :tool:

ThePunisher · 07-23-2005, 03:49 PM

I think this person is a ricer with a mustang.

07-21-2005, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	auto?? im not cracking on people but why would anyone get a muscle car and want automatic besides the fact that there good in stop go traffic... its just one of my pet peeves.

07-21-2005, 10:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
sonikku 99 GT Convertible Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rohnert Park, California Posts: 17	Nothing wrong with an auto. Throw in a shift kit and stall converter, your good to go. I plan on doing those plus some 373's in mine. Should more than make up any "loss" from not having a stick in most cases. Besides, talk to any 'old timers' a modern manual takes no skill compared to the older muscle cars. thsoe things were freakin sensitive and very easy to stall (at least my dad's '78 280z heh) the car's CPU helps out a lot these days. Driving a stick can be fun, but 99.99% of the time i'm just doing daily driving, not racing, so the auto just makes more sense for me. If i had nice open, traffic less highways, sure a manual would be nice :-) __________________ --- Robert Petersen 1999 Mustang GT Convertible 35th Anniversary Steeda CAI \| SLP Loudmouth Catbacks \| To do list: 70mm Throttle Body + Plenum Combo , Underdrive Pulleys , SLP Catted X-Pipe

07-22-2005, 03:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
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07-22-2005, 05:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
USMCstang Secretary of Defense Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Akron, OH...5 Mins from Summit Racing Posts: 355	In drag racing, Auto > Manual...ask John Force. :headbang: __________________ ~Mike 98 GT 4R70W Buckeye Stangs - Ohio Based Mustang Enthusiasts

07-22-2005, 07:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Maybe they have auto's so they can kick the snot out of the "real racers" with manuals. Nothing beats the look on manual owners faces when they find out my car has a stock motor and an automatic tranny after I've just wasted them. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

07-21-2005, 09:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	yeah but still why get a muscle car and have auto whats the point of that .... theres no trying or skill u step on the gas and it goes enough said...childs play

07-22-2005, 07:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	i wanna see a manual mustang with the same mods you have, line up...who will when then. hmmmm i have an idea __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-22-2005, 08:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Actually I beat manual cars with more mod's than mine every time I go to the track. Look at my times, I run 12.80's with only 251 rwhp. I beat 96 -01 Cobra's and Mach one's not to mention LS1's. I have been drag racing since 1976 and automatic cars have always ruled the streets and strips. I grew up in the glory days of the muscle car and the automatics cars were always faster. They are easier to launch and are more consistant. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

07-22-2005, 08:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	how about this ..a stock auto vs. a stock manual which is faster givin the drivers are the same __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-23-2005, 06:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	Stock would be a drivers race, an auto will not launch near as hard as a manual stock. But a stock p.i. head 99-04 auto will hardly spin the tires so it will have a traction advantage. With a good driver the manual should win by a couple of car lengths everytime. In real life on street tires I have never lost to a manual GT at the track. They simply can't hook well enough on street tires. Most of the GT's I have raced are not stock so I can't give you an instance when I ran stock agaisnt a stock manual car. I did alot of research before deciding on my automatic. Contrary to what most GT owners think it is easier to make a automatic fast than a manual. We don't have to worry about blowing up our rear ends like the manuals cars do. The additional 3-5 percent of power loss of an automatic is made up by the ease of launching and the consistancy of shifting. I belong to several online forums and race alot. I see many 265-285 hp manuals that I can whip with 250 hp. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

07-23-2005, 08:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,132	I will admit autos are more consistent but by any means not faster! I have been beat by many autos because I've had tractions problems, not shifting right and so forth! I do think a well built autos are much better for track use but I love shifting my car! __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

07-23-2005, 09:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
StangMan04 Ricer Abuser Join Date: May 2005 Location: Richmond,Va Posts: 430	auto's arent that bad, if you dont like a auto then dont get one, simple as that. with mine being tuned I have beatin my friends primarily stock 03 gt 5spd. now a couple more tweaks and a tq converter, tranny cooler I will be fine. Yeah its fun shifting but it gets boring after going through stop and go traffic everyday to work __________________ 2004 GT SLP Loudmouth 2 Catback,SLP Catted X-pipe,SLP LT Headers,JLT RAI,4:10s, XCal2. Waiting to go in: VT Stage 3 Blower Cams, 3200 Stall

07-23-2005, 09:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	the starter of this thread is an idiot. you dont just stomp and go. you lock in the brake, bring up stall speed, launch, and shift, i just dont like stomping pedals around like a little kid. and anyway, i bet my times get more consinstant and the autos handle a boatload more power. why buy a muscle car and keep it slow? __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

07-23-2005, 09:40 AM	#19 (permalink)
dom whos gonna ban me next? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 1,268	also...if you drove something faster than a 96 stang (turd) you would realize the potential of an auto. but for you, your car is such a dud that you look for any excitement you can get, whether its shifting gears, or changing cd's while racing. i guess pressing a clutch takes the attention off of the other car leaving you __________________ 2007 explorer limited procharged 2002gt sold new project: 427w c4 9" fox

07-23-2005, 12:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
stang00 Civic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: brewster ny Posts: 2,577	ah haha this thread keeps getting better

07-23-2005, 01:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
96stangGT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 37	put your MV motor, Procharger, 4R70W, drag suspension, built rear, etc in a 2002 manual gt and lets see who wins at the strip... i dont see many autos in the NHRA or Pro drag races, they prefer manual for a reason....hate to say it but id rather go rice the go auto iv drivin a 2000 auto gt = not fun wanted to fall asleep at the wheel __________________ 96 GT with only 45,000 mi.

07-23-2005, 03:49 PM	#25 (permalink)
ThePunisher Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 624	I think this person is a ricer with a mustang.