I just got done reading about the Venom 1000 write up by Water Dr. Great write up by the way. But I have a couple of questions about the system. I have a sniper special forces tuner. I have it tuned for my current mods and running on 93 oct. Well I am running with the O2 sensors off b/c of my o/r h-pipe. The write up says that it uses the O2 sensors to read the a/f ratio and supply the needed nitrous. How will it work with the O2 sensors off? Will it automatically turn my sensors on since it take over my computer? Or do I have to have a tune set up with the sensors back on? Plus will it also adapt for 93 oct? Right now I have it set up with a hand held tuner that loads my tunes but plan on switching to the chip with 6 postions from sniper so that i can run various tunes including nitrous but will it matter with this system since it self tunes? Should I look at the zex kit instead since it doesnt self tune the computer? Any help will be great.

 

You dont have your front O2 turned off you have the rears only as those only read to see if the cats are working. Your fronts are still working. My opinion is that its not only an over priced kit, its to complex and makes alot less power then other kits, its blown motors before (two people on here have done it with that kit) and its a dry kit so its garbage in my book, also it looks like **** in your engine bay with all the wires and what not in the way.

The best way to go is run any wet nitrous kit (meaning it injects the nitrous+fuel) from any nitrous competitor. I have a Compucar kit jetted for 125-150 shot depending on what i feel like using. They are good kits with lifetime warranties on there products. NX,NOS,Ny-Trex,Zex,Nitrous works, NItrous Proflow, and TNT are all good companies too and im sure i missed a few. Venom is one of the few i would stay far away from.

You will need to change that tune up for the nitrous, but not to much if you use smaller shots like 125 or less. I would go back to the stock timing table for the nitrous tune and look at the a/f ratio when spraying to see what you need to do there(assuming you have a wideband for tuning).

 

Thanks for the info. I read about the venom kit and it looked like a good kit for someone just getting into nitrous. But I have heard that Zex and NX have some good starter kits. I want to stay with a dry kit b/c it is from what I understand less complicated and safer. I dont plan on going super nuts just alittle hp for now. I still am deciding btw nitrous and superchargering. Cost is a big factor and the nitrous looks appealing from that point. What part # of what brands do u recommend (nitrous)? And where to purchase?

 

I wouldn't recommend a dry kit. The only extra thing you have to do to install a wet kit is to run a line from the fuel solinod to the fuel rail and use the supplied fitting to get fuel for the nitrous system off the fuel rail, thats it. So really its not much harder to install.

A dry kit is also going to be more money as you will need a better fuel pump and injectors for it. Where as with the wet kit you can do it with no fuel mods at all for up to a 100shot. A wet kit is just as safe as a dry kit if not safer in my book because you know the nitrous kit is getting the extra fuel in. The only downfall is nitrous backfires which can still occure with a dry kit. Those can be avoded with a proper use of the nitrous kit by not using it below 3,000rpms so the fuel/nitrous doesnt have a chance to slow down and puddle in the intake manifold and backfire.

Trust me and the other tons of people who have been using wet kits on these cars for years. Wet is the easy cheaper way to go. Like i said any kit for a Ford efi vehicle is going to work and will be easy to install. Zex is very simple to install but doesnt offer the power that other kits do. The other kits arent even that hard to install at all. Most can be done in under 6 hours taking your time. I did mine in i think it was 4hours and change.

I can give you tons more info if you need be. I kinda like nitrous

 

I will only make two quick comments:

1 - Don't mess with the sauce until you are 100% comfortable with what you are doing.

2 - Kits don't make power. Adding nitrous and fuel does. No kit make more power then another. There is no magical relationship that makes a Zex, Venom, or NX make more power then then the other.....power only gets made based on how much nitrous and fuel you add. Some kits are rated differently then others since there is no set law that defines what a 100 shot or a 75 shot is really supposed to be. So, if an NX makes more actual proven dyno power then a Venom, it is because more fuel and nitrous was added....not because of the name of the kit.

3 - If you don't have plans for other mods to your car and your car stock, in theory, then I think the Venom kit is fine. The kit is defintely more complex, but it is very cheap. You used to be able to buy complete kits for $525. If your car is not stock, then I would avoid this kit. A wet kit like an NX is a lot more adaptable and can grow with anything that you do to your car assuming it is tuned correctly. You can't tune a Venom kit......this reason alone is enough for a lot of people to avoid them. Keep in mind that a proper NX EFI kit with all the bells and whistles can get over $2,000 (kit, purge systems, guages, bottle warmers, chips, dyno tune....all this stuff adds up).

BTW, American Muscle no longers sell Venom kits any longer.....I don't know why as this forum is no longer affliated with the business. As such, I am going to take down the thread about the kit. There have been users with problems, so that might be the issue, but there have been blown motors with ALL nitrous kits.

 

True about the amount of power, most people don't understand this they just under stand that you change gets to get more power. So i don't bother explaining that part. However not all companies kits are the same if you ask me. I would want a kit that has lifetime warranty on the Solenoids so you don't have to worry about them failing and you footing the bill.

What i really don't understand is why there is so much discrepancy in the hp rating of different companies kits. Why aren't they all rated at rwhp like they should be, thats the real question.

 

I think it is because it is un-regulated and it comes down to marketing. The companies can call them whatever they want which leaves some confusion. It also depends somewhat on the tune.

 

Its ridiculous really I mean look at the TNT kits their 150shots make like 175-185rwhp thats a bit more then a 150hit lol.