i gave in, which supercharger set-up is best

ex-ricer98gt · 06-14-2006, 06:17 AM

seein as how i cant get 400hp with the 2v im going ahead and gettin a power adder, ill buy it but i wont enjoy it lol which is a good set up i was lookin at the 1 from procharger, i gota 98gt auto

Teal_Beast · 06-14-2006, 06:27 AM

98? PI top end swap first imho

mcmmotorsports · 06-14-2006, 06:30 AM

Seeing that you have a non-pi motor and an auto it will take a lot of boost and a lot of engine mods to see 400hp. Now, you also have to decide if you are looking for 400 Wheel Horsepower or 400 Crank Horsepower. 400 crank is a much more realistic goal for you with your current setup.

ex-ricer98gt · 06-14-2006, 06:51 AM

yea im doin a pi head and intake swap, 400 crank hp im guna try and do its alot more realistic then 400 hp all motor to the wheels lol

Teal_Beast · 06-14-2006, 07:07 AM

hell, 400whp isnt that far of a stretch. .

PI H/C/I swap, maybe get a little port job before they go in, do exhaust and some bolt ons, then an 11psi procharger kit 3 core IC and BOOM

matrixpuba · 06-14-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Teal_Beast

hell, 400whp isnt that far of a stretch. .

PI H/C/I swap, maybe get a little port job before they go in, do exhaust and some bolt ons, then an 11psi procharger kit 3 core IC and BOOM

yep

MOTT · 06-14-2006, 10:25 AM

My opinion for what it's worth, get the Procharger S/C, it is easiest to install, and you don't have to drill a hole in you oil pan. It's totally self contained, the oiling system that is. Just change it like you do you car engine oil. Every 3,000 miles, I hope that's when you change it anyway. Look them up, I'm sure you'll agree.

matrixpuba · 06-14-2006, 10:29 AM

procharger oil is changed every 6000 miles

*03gtmustang* · 06-14-2006, 10:31 AM

I thought the Prochargers have bad seals and always leak?

SlickSilverVert · 06-14-2006, 10:51 AM

no - actually there is no seal - along th bottom anyway - people claim the turbine seal leaks - but this happens no more so than any other supercharger - basically theyre are all just as good quality wise - but the power and step up ratios are different.

MOTT · 06-14-2006, 10:58 AM

I would still change it the same time I change my engine oil, that way you don't forget.

spike_africa · 06-14-2006, 12:38 PM

some people had problems with them leaking. They found out alot of times if you run 3/4 of a bottle of procharger oil rather then a full bottle it pretty much stops the leaks and doesnt hurt the blower.

I would also recomend ati as there kits are pretty easy to install no pan tapping, And makes great power. its really up to you though.

mcmmotorsports · 06-14-2006, 12:38 PM

Please do not base your purchase solely on the fact of punching a hole in your oil pan. It was the EASIEST part of the installation.

spike_africa · 06-14-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports

Please do not base your purchase solely on the fact of punching a hole in your oil pan. It was the EASIEST part of the installation.

Its not hard by any means just a pain in the ass to get it in square and nice. Like i said there all good blowers.I think adding the T-fitting to the oil pressure sender was more of a pain in the ass really. If i was him i would go by what i can get the best deal on if hes not set on what blower he wants.

mcmmotorsports · 06-14-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spike_africa

Its not hard by any means just a pain in the ass to get it in square and nice. Like i said there all good blowers.I think adding the T-fitting to the oil pressure sender was more of a pain in the ass really. If i was him i would go by what i can get the best deal on if hes not set on what blower he wants.

Spike, I posted the same time you did, I was not replying to your post. I was just making the point that most people get discouraged because they have to punch the pan.

spike_africa · 06-14-2006, 01:00 PM

Oh i know, i was just saying it isnt too bad at all. Its just a pain to get up in there and make sure its squared up nice.

mcmmotorsports · 06-14-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spike_africa

Oh i know, i was just saying it isnt too bad at all. Its just a pain to get up in there and make sure its squared up nice.

Actually, when I did mine, I went in on an angle with the punch, then, tapped it straight on.

MOTT · 06-14-2006, 07:30 PM

I've never heard of them leaking, guess you learn something new everyday here. The thing I liked about a self contained oiling system was that you didn't run the risk of getting some contaminated oil up in your expensive S/C, and Procharger was the only one I knew of. Is there more out there, and do they make more power? If so please share the info, many people here would like to know. I'll still go with a self contained oiling system though, to old to change my thinking on that.

spike_africa · 06-14-2006, 08:31 PM

mcm on the v6's like teals when i did his vortec with him his has to be tapped on the side, it was such a pain in the ass to get in there and do it sucked.

But yours looks nice and clean, thats what i like to see.

mcmmotorsports · 06-15-2006, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa

mcm on the v6's like teals when i did his vortec with him his has to be tapped on the side, it was such a pain in the ass to get in there and do it sucked.

But yours looks nice and clean, thats what i like to see.

Thanks, I took my time with it.

r3dn3ck · 06-15-2006, 08:53 AM

damn that's purdy.

I don't like procharger... not enough oil volume to cool and lubricate such a precision item. Same thing with powerdyne... no likey belts where gears should be.

Paxton or Vortech, premium product at a modest price. Otherwise, roots type.

Stangdude27 · 06-16-2006, 06:01 AM

If you have the money get the Novi.

MOTT · 06-16-2006, 06:33 AM

why the novi? what advantage does it have?

*03gtmustang* · 06-16-2006, 07:27 AM

Yeah, Id go with a Paxton. Its just an all around good blower. http://modularpowerhouse.com/product...ef876142e557ad

06-14-2006, 06:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
ex-ricer98gt Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 194	i gave in, which supercharger set-up is best seein as how i cant get 400hp with the 2v im going ahead and gettin a power adder, ill buy it but i wont enjoy it lol which is a good set up i was lookin at the 1 from procharger, i gota 98gt auto

06-14-2006, 06:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Teal_Beast V6 Power Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 944	98? PI top end swap first imho __________________ '94 v6 Mustang Custom twin turbo kit by Justin @ vmp Split port engine swap from a 2000 v6 mustang 388whp 435wtq Want to go fishing in the Florida Keys? http://www.rustyiv.com/

06-14-2006, 06:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
mcmmotorsports One Bad Mother Trucker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Eastern, NC Posts: 2,781	Seeing that you have a non-pi motor and an auto it will take a lot of boost and a lot of engine mods to see 400hp. Now, you also have to decide if you are looking for 400 Wheel Horsepower or 400 Crank Horsepower. 400 crank is a much more realistic goal for you with your current setup. __________________

06-14-2006, 07:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Teal_Beast V6 Power Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 944	hell, 400whp isnt that far of a stretch. . PI H/C/I swap, maybe get a little port job before they go in, do exhaust and some bolt ons, then an 11psi procharger kit 3 core IC and BOOM __________________ '94 v6 Mustang Custom twin turbo kit by Justin @ vmp Split port engine swap from a 2000 v6 mustang 388whp 435wtq Want to go fishing in the Florida Keys? http://www.rustyiv.com/

06-14-2006, 10:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
MOTT OUTCAST Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hartford WI Posts: 95	My opinion for what it's worth, get the Procharger S/C, it is easiest to install, and you don't have to drill a hole in you oil pan. It's totally self contained, the oiling system that is. Just change it like you do you car engine oil. Every 3,000 miles, I hope that's when you change it anyway. Look them up, I'm sure you'll agree. __________________ 2002 GT, Accufab T/B and Plenum (75mm), (4.10 gears, (Ford)), Aluminum Drive shaft, MAC 8.8 Differential Cover, Steeda CAI. TRI-AX shifter, Diablosport Predator tuner. MAC H pipe (catless) Steeda cat back exhaust. BFG DR P275-40-17 Steeda "Weight Jacker" lower control arms. (Adj.) Steeda HD upper control arm's.(Adj.)Steeda Comp. Street,Strip springs. Steeda full length frame rails, and cross brace. Steeda 4 bolt camber plates. ANYTHING WORTH DOING, IS WORTH OVERDOING!!!

06-14-2006, 06:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
ex-ricer98gt Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 194	yea im doin a pi head and intake swap, 400 crank hp im guna try and do its alot more realistic then 400 hp all motor to the wheels lol

06-14-2006, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
matrixpuba Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tennessee Posts: 1,103	procharger oil is changed every 6000 miles __________________ pics->http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/for...?do=view&g=158 vid at idle->http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=5ab47c14.flv

06-14-2006, 10:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,245	I thought the Prochargers have bad seals and always leak? __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

06-14-2006, 10:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
SlickSilverVert Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29	no - actually there is no seal - along th bottom anyway - people claim the turbine seal leaks - but this happens no more so than any other supercharger - basically theyre are all just as good quality wise - but the power and step up ratios are different.

06-14-2006, 10:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
MOTT OUTCAST Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hartford WI Posts: 95	I would still change it the same time I change my engine oil, that way you don't forget. __________________ 2002 GT, Accufab T/B and Plenum (75mm), (4.10 gears, (Ford)), Aluminum Drive shaft, MAC 8.8 Differential Cover, Steeda CAI. TRI-AX shifter, Diablosport Predator tuner. MAC H pipe (catless) Steeda cat back exhaust. BFG DR P275-40-17 Steeda "Weight Jacker" lower control arms. (Adj.) Steeda HD upper control arm's.(Adj.)Steeda Comp. Street,Strip springs. Steeda full length frame rails, and cross brace. Steeda 4 bolt camber plates. ANYTHING WORTH DOING, IS WORTH OVERDOING!!!

06-14-2006, 12:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,413	some people had problems with them leaking. They found out alot of times if you run 3/4 of a bottle of procharger oil rather then a full bottle it pretty much stops the leaks and doesnt hurt the blower. I would also recomend ati as there kits are pretty easy to install no pan tapping, And makes great power. its really up to you though. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

06-14-2006, 12:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
mcmmotorsports One Bad Mother Trucker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Eastern, NC Posts: 2,781	Please do not base your purchase solely on the fact of punching a hole in your oil pan. It was the EASIEST part of the installation. __________________

06-14-2006, 01:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,413	Oh i know, i was just saying it isnt too bad at all. Its just a pain to get up in there and make sure its squared up nice. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

06-14-2006, 07:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
MOTT OUTCAST Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hartford WI Posts: 95	I've never heard of them leaking, guess you learn something new everyday here. The thing I liked about a self contained oiling system was that you didn't run the risk of getting some contaminated oil up in your expensive S/C, and Procharger was the only one I knew of. Is there more out there, and do they make more power? If so please share the info, many people here would like to know. I'll still go with a self contained oiling system though, to old to change my thinking on that. __________________ 2002 GT, Accufab T/B and Plenum (75mm), (4.10 gears, (Ford)), Aluminum Drive shaft, MAC 8.8 Differential Cover, Steeda CAI. TRI-AX shifter, Diablosport Predator tuner. MAC H pipe (catless) Steeda cat back exhaust. BFG DR P275-40-17 Steeda "Weight Jacker" lower control arms. (Adj.) Steeda HD upper control arm's.(Adj.)Steeda Comp. Street,Strip springs. Steeda full length frame rails, and cross brace. Steeda 4 bolt camber plates. ANYTHING WORTH DOING, IS WORTH OVERDOING!!!

06-14-2006, 08:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,413	mcm on the v6's like teals when i did his vortec with him his has to be tapped on the side, it was such a pain in the ass to get in there and do it sucked. But yours looks nice and clean, thats what i like to see. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

06-15-2006, 08:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,015	damn that's purdy. I don't like procharger... not enough oil volume to cool and lubricate such a precision item. Same thing with powerdyne... no likey belts where gears should be. Paxton or Vortech, premium product at a modest price. Otherwise, roots type.

06-16-2006, 06:01 AM	#22 (permalink)
Stangdude27 Silver 2003 GT Conv Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ft Walton Beach,Florida Posts: 399	If you have the money get the Novi.

06-16-2006, 06:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
MOTT OUTCAST Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hartford WI Posts: 95	why the novi? what advantage does it have? __________________ 2002 GT, Accufab T/B and Plenum (75mm), (4.10 gears, (Ford)), Aluminum Drive shaft, MAC 8.8 Differential Cover, Steeda CAI. TRI-AX shifter, Diablosport Predator tuner. MAC H pipe (catless) Steeda cat back exhaust. BFG DR P275-40-17 Steeda "Weight Jacker" lower control arms. (Adj.) Steeda HD upper control arm's.(Adj.)Steeda Comp. Street,Strip springs. Steeda full length frame rails, and cross brace. Steeda 4 bolt camber plates. ANYTHING WORTH DOING, IS WORTH OVERDOING!!!

06-16-2006, 07:27 AM	#24 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,245	Yeah, Id go with a Paxton. Its just an all around good blower. http://modularpowerhouse.com/product...ef876142e557ad __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan