Puttin a blower on it....

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 07:08 AM

Ive been looking through Ebay alot and you can get a great used Vortech or Procharger kit for like 2500 bucks! I think im gonna keep the nitrous on it and buy a procharger this summer when Im makin money. Itll be used but i dont mind it cause I really want some boost

Ill be running prolly 8 pounds and Ill top it off with a little 25 or 50 shot.....

Open to ideas or thoughts.......

*venom* · 03-21-2006, 07:17 AM

I have heard too many horror stories about used SC on ebay. I would try to buy one from someone you know or buy a new one. Why have the headache of chasing parts or having to send in the SC in for service if the seals go. That is something you want to do once and not have to worry how many miles does it actually have.

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 08:30 AM

I wont buy anything but a full kit with all the hardware. Im not worried about the seals going out. If it does then well i guess ill put new seals on it....... BOOOOSSSSTTT!!!! HAHAHAHAHA Thats what i need.....

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 04:02 PM

YESSS. Theres a guy interested in trading a p1sc kit for my whole nitrous setup and some cash on top!!! he has a kit from his friends wrecked car with only 4K miles on it! He has a blown mustang and he wants to put spray on it.

3V2000GT · 03-21-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

YESSS. Theres a guy interested in trading a p1sc kit for my whole nitrous setup and some cash on top!!! he has a kit from his friends wrecked car with only 4K miles on it! He has a blown mustang and he wants to put spray on it.

how much extra cash on top? once you get the supercharger you have either install it yourslef or get it installed witch is about 600 and then get it tuned anonther 300-600

I would do the same but i am happy with my nitrous

whitethunder46 · 03-21-2006, 04:18 PM

Procharger P-1sc has had some bad leaky issues, which I'm sure you know. I wouldn't buy one used on ebay.

IF you did, I would seriosuly spend another 300 or whatever be the cost and send it back to Procharger and have them replace all seals and such.

This is one of the greatest combo kits I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure you can get it without the Xcal2 which I would do and have it custom tuned by my tuner.

http://www.jmschip.com/shop/product_...roducts_id=340

the link isnt working right now, but it always has before.

spike_africa · 03-21-2006, 05:08 PM

alot of the leak issues were form being over filled if you run 3/4 a bottle of oil rather then the hole thing it tends to stop the leaks. and there have been posts on how to change the seals yourself and the cost is around 45 dollars i belive it is for new seals. ME if i ever see a Procharger for a good deal with the 3core intercooler and the injectors and maf i would totaly sell my nitrous kit off and do it. I have always wanted a ATI even before i had a mustang i wanted one for my truck. I will own one some time, if i ever find that good deal.

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 05:30 PM

I've had my procharger for a while and making some good boost with it as well. I've had no seal issues. The seal is from NAPA and costs like 10 bucks and you can change it no problem.

I'm currently looking to sell my whole kit cause I want a KB for my engine build. Any takers?

whitethunder46 · 03-21-2006, 05:49 PM

you doing a 2.2KB?

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 06:03 PM

Uh oh eehh. well i found out that the kit is a Vortech SQ w/ an Anderson Powerpipe and all the hardware. No chip. Still looks like a goo deal to me. Some are makin 600hp with the SQ.........

spike_africa · 03-21-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stangdude27

I've had my procharger for a while and making some good boost with it as well. I've had no seal issues. The seal is from NAPA and costs like 10 bucks and you can change it no problem.

I'm currently looking to sell my whole kit cause I want a KB for my engine build. Any takers?

i thought it was a bit more pricey maybe i am thinking of the gasket if you get it from ATI that might be were i got the seal price from.

Icefreezen · 03-21-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stangdude27

I've had my procharger for a while and making some good boost with it as well. I've had no seal issues. The seal is from NAPA and costs like 10 bucks and you can change it no problem.

I'm currently looking to sell my whole kit cause I want a KB for my engine build. Any takers?

A guy locally might be selling his 1.7 KB kit possibly next month if you interested I can give you a heads up on if you like?

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 06:19 PM

1.7 for now I can't afford the 2.2kb. My motor won't be that strong for the 2.2 I'm just getting pistons and rods with a mild grind cam from miles per hour and a slight port job on the heads.

Yup procharger wants way to much for their seals. I had thought maybe mine had started to leak and asked around for part numbers. When I took the blower off to change the seal found out I had a busted AC line spraying coolant and the back of the blower had belt dust around it. After I cleaned everything off and reinstalled no more belt dust. But I priced the part at NAPA and it was like 10 bucks.

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Icefreezen

A guy locally might be selling his 1.7 KB kit possibly next month if you interested I can give you a heads up on if you like?

Where you located and hell ya I would be interested. Would it be the whole kit or what? Cause I don't want to be having to peice together a KB kit. Find out how much boost he is pushing? I'll be running a low compression setup so more boost is best!

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 06:24 PM

What about the vortech???? should I go for it. I am partly doing this because my dad hates me having nitrous on my car cause he doesnt know what it is like most old skool guys and he thinks all it does is blow up engines. LOL he told me that nitrous would bend my valves LMAO! I didnt say anything.....

Ill be installing the kit myself I am fully capable. It will have to have a cheap chip burned for it though....

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

What about the vortech???? should I go for it. I am partly doing this because my dad hates me having nitrous on my car cause he doesnt know what it is like most old skool guys and he thinks all it does is blow up engines. LOL he told me that nitrous would bend my valves LMAO! I didnt say anything.....

Ill be installing the kit myself I am fully capable. It will have to have a cheap chip burned for it though....

Vortech or procharger doesn't matter Some people like the self contained deal rather than punching a hole in the oil pan. It's up to you on which route you want to go. Vortech is great but you have to remember you go cheap on the tune and say byey bye to your rods and/or pistons. Then you have to buy a new shortblock! And that will cost way more than a good tune but that's just me.

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stangdude27

Vortech or procharger doesn't matter Some people like the self contained deal rather than punching a hole in the oil pan. It's up to you on which route you want to go. Vortech is great but you have to remember you go cheap on the tune and say byey bye to your rods and/or pistons. Then you have to buy a new shortblock! And that will cost way more than a good tune but that's just me.

Well Im not talking about some POS tune I mean just like a diablo tuner with a downloaded supercharger tune on it. Something like that to keep it safe until I have money for a dyno tune. I think I am going to get this vortech. Will the 96-98 Bracket work on my car? If not then why? If it doesnt work ill get it anyways and find a new bracket.

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 07:09 PM

Also how do you like your current procharger?? How is it just ridin around the street? and at the strip?

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

Also how do you like your current procharger?? How is it just ridin around the street? and at the strip?

It's great just drving around. Drives like a normal car, but when you hit the loud pedal makes it fun. At the strip I have had to many problems with **** breaking to really get a good run. I think with a good set-up this thing will get the results you want. Also It is all set-up for a 2003. I don't think the bracket on the vortech kit your looking at will match because of our water pumps and altenator set-up.

If I don't sell this kit I'll just go ahead and get a 8 rib set-up and get a smaller pulley. With me lowering the compression I should be getting some good power from this head unit! I love the procharger. I just have gotten power hungry and want more.

jeredan2003 · 03-21-2006, 07:46 PM

Oh yea! I just found a site that sells JUST the bracket I need for $110.00!!!! Hell yea im goin blown for sure now. Ill trade my nitrous for the 96-98 SQ kit, then ill buy the bracket and a chip. Then ill sell my K&N FIPK LOL.

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeredan2003

Oh yea! I just found a site that sells JUST the bracket I need for $110.00!!!! Hell yea im goin blown for sure now. Ill trade my nitrous for the 96-98 SQ kit, then ill buy the bracket and a chip. Then ill sell my K&N FIPK LOL.

Now all you need is a BAP, fuel pump, LMAF and MAF extender, IAT, and Tune. I would get a SCT Xcalibrator 2. Or just buy a flip chip. Also you might want a wide band A/F quage and boost/VAC as well. Pillar pod.

Good luck and hopefully soon you'll be in the world of boost. You'll love the difference.

whitethunder46 · 03-21-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stangdude27

Now all you need is a BAP, fuel pump, LMAF and MAF extender, IAT, and Tune. I would get a SCT Xcalibrator 2. Or just buy a flip chip. Also you might want a wide band A/F quage and boost/VAC as well. Pillar pod.

Good luck and hopefully soon you'll be in the world of boost. You'll love the difference.

You'll also want a fuel pressure gauge.

Stangdude27 · 03-21-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whitethunder46

You'll also want a fuel pressure gauge.

Yup! Man everything always adds up gotta spend to play thou but you feel better after you Hit the 12's and lower!

03-21-2006, 07:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Puttin a blower on it.... Ive been looking through Ebay alot and you can get a great used Vortech or Procharger kit for like 2500 bucks! I think im gonna keep the nitrous on it and buy a procharger this summer when Im makin money. Itll be used but i dont mind it cause I really want some boost Ill be running prolly 8 pounds and Ill top it off with a little 25 or 50 shot..... Open to ideas or thoughts....... __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 07:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,270	I have heard too many horror stories about used SC on ebay. I would try to buy one from someone you know or buy a new one. Why have the headache of chasing parts or having to send in the SC in for service if the seals go. That is something you want to do once and not have to worry how many miles does it actually have. __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

03-21-2006, 08:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	I wont buy anything but a full kit with all the hardware. Im not worried about the seals going out. If it does then well i guess ill put new seals on it....... BOOOOSSSSTTT!!!! HAHAHAHAHA Thats what i need..... __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 04:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	YESSS. Theres a guy interested in trading a p1sc kit for my whole nitrous setup and some cash on top!!! he has a kit from his friends wrecked car with only 4K miles on it! He has a blown mustang and he wants to put spray on it. __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 04:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Procharger P-1sc has had some bad leaky issues, which I'm sure you know. I wouldn't buy one used on ebay. IF you did, I would seriosuly spend another 300 or whatever be the cost and send it back to Procharger and have them replace all seals and such. This is one of the greatest combo kits I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure you can get it without the Xcal2 which I would do and have it custom tuned by my tuner. http://www.jmschip.com/shop/product_...roducts_id=340 the link isnt working right now, but it always has before. __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

03-21-2006, 05:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 6,971	alot of the leak issues were form being over filled if you run 3/4 a bottle of oil rather then the hole thing it tends to stop the leaks. and there have been posts on how to change the seals yourself and the cost is around 45 dollars i belive it is for new seals. ME if i ever see a Procharger for a good deal with the 3core intercooler and the injectors and maf i would totaly sell my nitrous kit off and do it. I have always wanted a ATI even before i had a mustang i wanted one for my truck. I will own one some time, if i ever find that good deal. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

03-21-2006, 05:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Stangdude27 Silver 2003 GT Conv Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ft Walton Beach,Florida Posts: 399	I've had my procharger for a while and making some good boost with it as well. I've had no seal issues. The seal is from NAPA and costs like 10 bucks and you can change it no problem. I'm currently looking to sell my whole kit cause I want a KB for my engine build. Any takers?

03-21-2006, 05:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	you doing a 2.2KB? __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

03-21-2006, 06:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Uh oh eehh. well i found out that the kit is a Vortech SQ w/ an Anderson Powerpipe and all the hardware. No chip. Still looks like a goo deal to me. Some are makin 600hp with the SQ......... __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 06:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
Stangdude27 Silver 2003 GT Conv Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ft Walton Beach,Florida Posts: 399	1.7 for now I can't afford the 2.2kb. My motor won't be that strong for the 2.2 I'm just getting pistons and rods with a mild grind cam from miles per hour and a slight port job on the heads. Yup procharger wants way to much for their seals. I had thought maybe mine had started to leak and asked around for part numbers. When I took the blower off to change the seal found out I had a busted AC line spraying coolant and the back of the blower had belt dust around it. After I cleaned everything off and reinstalled no more belt dust. But I priced the part at NAPA and it was like 10 bucks.

03-21-2006, 06:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	What about the vortech???? should I go for it. I am partly doing this because my dad hates me having nitrous on my car cause he doesnt know what it is like most old skool guys and he thinks all it does is blow up engines. LOL he told me that nitrous would bend my valves LMAO! I didnt say anything..... Ill be installing the kit myself I am fully capable. It will have to have a cheap chip burned for it though.... __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 07:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Also how do you like your current procharger?? How is it just ridin around the street? and at the strip? __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 07:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
jeredan2003 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 1,788	Oh yea! I just found a site that sells JUST the bracket I need for $110.00!!!! Hell yea im goin blown for sure now. Ill trade my nitrous for the 96-98 SQ kit, then ill buy the bracket and a chip. Then ill sell my K&N FIPK LOL. __________________ 2003 DSG GT 5-speed Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback..... My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new

03-21-2006, 08:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
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