Just installed the venom

3V2000GT · 03-18-2006, 11:41 AM

I got one word- WOW..... frickin awesome- took me about 5 hours all together to install, wasnt too bad, would have taken a lot longer if it wasnt for MT#1customer, but anyways i tryed the 50 shot and the 75 shot so far( didn't try the 25 , I screwed up that nozzle) I think i am gonna wait for the 100, the 50 shot was unbeleiveable, but it was nothing compared to the to 75, man the car pulls so hard definatle get pushed bck into the seat hard. Ill keep you guys posted as far as the 100 shot and track time, overall i am very impressed and satisfied with this kit----Get it!!

going to race my bros 2006 gt now----we will see what happens--- ha ah

WaterDR · 03-18-2006, 11:54 AM

Dude, keep us posted and READ THOSE PLUGS! You should pull one or two just to make sure you are not running too lean...just as a backup.

You shoulod beat that 2006 on the 75 shot. Do you have the warmer installed? Because you will get about a 30% improvement by running your pressure around 950 psi.

brucespot · 03-18-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

I got one word- WOW..... frickin awesome- took me about 5 hours all together to install, was too bad, would have taken a lot longer if it wasn't for MT#1customer, but anyways i tried the 50 shot and the 75 shot so far( didn't try the 25 , I screwed up that nozzle) I think i am gonna wait for the 100, the 50 shot was unbelievable, but it was nothing compared to the to 75, man the car pulls so hard definitely get pushed back into the seat hard. Ill keep you guys posted as far as the 100 shot and track time, overall i am very impressed and satisfied with this kit----Get it!!

going to race my bros 2006 gt now----we will see what happens--- ha ah

Yup now it will be 45 bucks a week for awhile. The first few hits are the best then you will know you are running out. Do you have a bottle warmer? The difference is amazing in my car when the pressure is up. Oh yea these guys are the best and I can also say if it had not of been for them, I would of been f*+&^%...

03-18-2006, 01:20 PM

Are Nitrous systems street legal?????????????

3V2000GT · 03-18-2006, 01:27 PM

Well just got back from racing my brother with a 75hp shot, my bros mods are jlt cai, sct xcal 2, mganpack, eibach sportlines, off road h, First we raced from a stop didn't ( beat him off the line)activate the nitrous untill halfway through second gear- lost by a bumper length, second time raced from 20mph roll -dead even, third from stop light also even, ha cant wait until i get that nitrous tune and bottle warmer and oh yeah 100 shot

WaterDR · 03-18-2006, 01:34 PM

How did you wait until second to spray? Did you flip the enable swicth on the controller while driving? That is pretty hard to do.

BTW, the difference between the 75 and the 100 shot with the bottle warmer is that you will be adding almost twice as much juice when you hit as you are now.

3V2000GT · 03-18-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

How did you wait until second to spray? Did you flip the enable swicth on the controller while driving? That is pretty hard to do.

BTW, the difference between the 75 and the 100 shot with the bottle warmer is that you will be adding almost twice as much juice when you hit as you are now.

Really? I guess the bottle warmer is worth it, could you point me in the right direction of a good bottle warmer?

brucespot · 03-18-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

How did you wait until second to spray? Did you flip the enable swicth on the controller while driving? That is pretty hard to do.

BTW, the difference between the 75 and the 100 shot with the bottle warmer is that you will be adding almost twice as much juice when you hit as you are now.

You can see if you look at the post;NITROUS BUTTON here in power adders.. I made an activation button and drilled out my shifter and when I want to spray all I have to do is push the button.:clap: This is only after it is armed,you can see all the switches in the photo also the arming,bottle warmer and purge.

brucespot · 03-18-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

Are Nitrous systems street legal?????????????

I don't see why not.

03-18-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brucespot

I don't see why not.

I found out what im looking for.

Nitrous is legal in colorado, you just cant have it hooked up when yer driving around.

brucespot · 03-18-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

Well just got back from racing my brother with a 75hp shot, my bros mods are jlt cai, sct xcal 2, mganpack, eibach sportlines, off road h, First we raced from a stop didn't ( beat him off the line)activate the nitrous untill halfway through second gear- lost by a bumper length, second time raced from 20mph roll -dead even, third from stop light also even, ha cant wait until i get that nitrous tune and bottle warmer and oh yeah 100 shot

You'd smoke him right now you had the 4:10s.

*Lances03SVT* · 03-18-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

I found out what im looking for.

Nitrous is legal in colorado, you just cant have it hooked up when yer driving around.

Well what they don't know won't hurt them

GT4DUMMIES · 03-18-2006, 04:05 PM

75 shot - losing ...sounds like maybe ur not driving so well or something is wrong...very wrong.

WaterDR · 03-18-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brucespot

You can see if you look at the post;NITROUS BUTTON here in power adders.. I made an activation button and drilled out my shifter and when I want to spray all I have to do is push the button.:clap: This is only after it is armed,you can see all the switches in the photo also the arming,bottle warmer and purge.

Yeah, but he has a Venom system. It activates entirely differently. The system is fully automatic...long story. And, I also know that he does not have a second switch added to do as you claim. If he wanted to, he can because the venom is pre-wired to accept a second switch for manual activation, but he still has to be at WOT.

WaterDR · 03-18-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

Really? I guess the bottle warmer is worth it, could you point me in the right direction of a good bottle warmer?

Look at this way, you are squeezing nitrous throw a hole. There are two ways to add more nitrous, either increase the size of the hole, or increase the pressure on the bottle.

As the temp increases, the pressure in the bottle increases. The relationship is linear and is based on Boyles Law:

PV/T = P1V1/T where P = Pressure; T=Temp; V=Volume

So, as you increase T adn the V stays the same, pressure increases linearly.

At 85 degrees, you will be around 950 psi. At 60 degrees, you will be at something like 600 psi (I am too lazy to do the math).

Venom rates the nozzles over a range. What you are calling the 75 shot, is really more like a 60 - 80 shot depending on what bottle pressure you are at.
So, using a bottle warmer will make for a bigger shot.

Now, while racing your brother, you were probably only putting down about 50 hp to the rear wheels which is only about enough hp to make up the difference between your car and his car. But, when you go the larger nozzle at greater pressure, it will make a huge difference.

I once hit it for about three seconds at 1500 psi and I about broke my back. It was really stupid, but the bottle over-heated in the trunk and I wanted to drop some pressure so I sprayed.

I paid $100 for a NOS bottle warmer on ebay.

RedFirevert04GT · 03-18-2006, 08:38 PM

Woah...he just broke out some Real Gas Laws....I haven't seen those used in like 6 years. Good job.

jadartt · 03-18-2006, 08:50 PM

I am so jealous!:helpsmili My wife's grand cherokee with a Hemi seems faster than my car. I won't race her because I'm afraid it is.

03-18-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

As the temp increases, the pressure in the bottle increases. The relationship is linear and is based on Boyles Law:

PV/T = P1V1/T where P = Pressure; T=Temp; V=Volume

So, as you increase T adn the V stays the same, pressure increases linearly.

At 85 degrees, you will be around 950 psi. At 60 degrees, you will be at something like 600 psi (I am too lazy to do the math).

.

Uhh... ok there Mr. Spock.

whitethunder46 · 03-18-2006, 09:32 PM

Kinda a newbie question... With nitrous, is there anyway that someone on the outside could tell from your car when your spraying it? I.E.: sounds? exhaust get louder? and "flames" from the tailpipes, anything at all?

EX: like with superchargers theres that whine/whistle

3V2000GT · 03-18-2006, 10:28 PM

well when i spray you can tell because the car hits a lot harder and quiker, and the tires spin real bad and sometimes there is a kind of a quiet pop cant really explain it, but to someoen that has no idea about nitrous they would have no clue, also i dont know if my bro was just imagining this but he aid he could smell the nitrous, hes probably crazy

jeredan2003 · 03-19-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

Well just got back from racing my brother with a 75hp shot, my bros mods are jlt cai, sct xcal 2, mganpack, eibach sportlines, off road h, First we raced from a stop didn't ( beat him off the line)activate the nitrous untill halfway through second gear- lost by a bumper length, second time raced from 20mph roll -dead even, third from stop light also even, ha cant wait until i get that nitrous tune and bottle warmer and oh yeah 100 shot

Sounds like you didnt have ANY bottle pressure........ You should have stomped that GT from a stop and a roll. Even with a 50 shot I think youll pull at least a car on him. Go ahead and throw the 100 shot in since you dont have a heater. Itll be like a 75 shot w/good pressure...lol.. If you setup the nitrous the right way you will be twice as fast as you are now. You were running really rich and that kills performance.

whitethunder46 · 03-19-2006, 02:46 PM

If I got the NX Gen 2 kit and the NX Ford EFI kit, is that like the kenne bell of Nitrous? lol. I'm somewhat looking into this now.

What else do I need? Fuel pump? Spark plugs? injectors?
I'll def get a dyno tune. Do I need any gauges like fuel pressure or something along the lines of a boost gauge with a s/c?

And what's a purge and window switch, hehe, i need help, lol

jeredan2003 · 03-19-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whitethunder46

If I got the NX Gen 2 kit and the NX Ford EFI kit, is that like the kenne bell of Nitrous? lol. I'm somewhat looking into this now.

What else do I need? Fuel pump? Spark plugs? injectors?
I'll def get a dyno tune. Do I need any gauges like fuel pressure or something along the lines of a boost gauge with a s/c?

And what's a purge and window switch, hehe, i need help, lol

Definately Definately go with the plate KIT.And yes its like a small Kenne Bell at the flip of a switch! LOL.

You will need: NGK TR6 Plugs gapped at .035. nitrous pressure guage, bottle heater, fuel switch, and a window switch. Thats a nice setup.

03-18-2006, 11:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
3V2000GT 46MONSTER Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 2,207	Just installed the venom I got one word- WOW..... frickin awesome- took me about 5 hours all together to install, wasnt too bad, would have taken a lot longer if it wasnt for MT#1customer, but anyways i tryed the 50 shot and the 75 shot so far( didn't try the 25 , I screwed up that nozzle) I think i am gonna wait for the 100, the 50 shot was unbeleiveable, but it was nothing compared to the to 75, man the car pulls so hard definatle get pushed bck into the seat hard. Ill keep you guys posted as far as the 100 shot and track time, overall i am very impressed and satisfied with this kit----Get it!! going to race my bros 2006 gt now----we will see what happens--- ha ah __________________ 2000 GT Black on Tan, TKO 600: 370rwhp 370rwtq NA Built 3v 2004 Honda CBR 600 F4i Black/Red 2000 SVT Lightning Silver i love jinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-18-2006, 11:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,346	Dude, keep us posted and READ THOSE PLUGS! You should pull one or two just to make sure you are not running too lean...just as a backup. You shoulod beat that 2006 on the 75 shot. Do you have the warmer installed? Because you will get about a 30% improvement by running your pressure around 950 psi. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

03-18-2006, 01:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
3V2000GT 46MONSTER Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 2,207	Well just got back from racing my brother with a 75hp shot, my bros mods are jlt cai, sct xcal 2, mganpack, eibach sportlines, off road h, First we raced from a stop didn't ( beat him off the line)activate the nitrous untill halfway through second gear- lost by a bumper length, second time raced from 20mph roll -dead even, third from stop light also even, ha cant wait until i get that nitrous tune and bottle warmer and oh yeah 100 shot __________________ 2000 GT Black on Tan, TKO 600: 370rwhp 370rwtq NA Built 3v 2004 Honda CBR 600 F4i Black/Red 2000 SVT Lightning Silver i love jinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-18-2006, 01:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,346	How did you wait until second to spray? Did you flip the enable swicth on the controller while driving? That is pretty hard to do. BTW, the difference between the 75 and the 100 shot with the bottle warmer is that you will be adding almost twice as much juice when you hit as you are now. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

03-18-2006, 08:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
RedFirevert04GT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 336	Woah...he just broke out some Real Gas Laws....I haven't seen those used in like 6 years. Good job. __________________ '04 Red Fire vert. KB 1.7L intercooled 9lb with all the trimmin's & Big Boost kit w/ Switch Chip. Mac catted h-pipe & Mac catback. 411RWHP / 414 RWTQ.

03-18-2006, 01:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	Are Nitrous systems street legal?????????????

03-18-2006, 04:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
GT4DUMMIES Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 107	75 shot - losing ...sounds like maybe ur not driving so well or something is wrong...very wrong.

03-18-2006, 08:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
jadartt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Faibanks, Alaska Posts: 250	I am so jealous!:helpsmili My wife's grand cherokee with a Hemi seems faster than my car. I won't race her because I'm afraid it is.

03-18-2006, 09:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	Kinda a newbie question... With nitrous, is there anyway that someone on the outside could tell from your car when your spraying it? I.E.: sounds? exhaust get louder? and "flames" from the tailpipes, anything at all? EX: like with superchargers theres that whine/whistle __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

03-18-2006, 10:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
3V2000GT 46MONSTER Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 2,207	well when i spray you can tell because the car hits a lot harder and quiker, and the tires spin real bad and sometimes there is a kind of a quiet pop cant really explain it, but to someoen that has no idea about nitrous they would have no clue, also i dont know if my bro was just imagining this but he aid he could smell the nitrous, hes probably crazy __________________ 2000 GT Black on Tan, TKO 600: 370rwhp 370rwtq NA Built 3v 2004 Honda CBR 600 F4i Black/Red 2000 SVT Lightning Silver i love jinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! lucky is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-19-2006, 02:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	If I got the NX Gen 2 kit and the NX Ford EFI kit, is that like the kenne bell of Nitrous? lol. I'm somewhat looking into this now. What else do I need? Fuel pump? Spark plugs? injectors? I'll def get a dyno tune. Do I need any gauges like fuel pressure or something along the lines of a boost gauge with a s/c? And what's a purge and window switch, hehe, i need help, lol __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272