Bush - Page 2

Teal_Beast · 05-30-2006, 01:11 PM

they definatly had video/audio clips and docs of them doing it . . it was on the news,

NO we never found them physically

but

YES we knew they had and used them, testing them on there own people.

one of sadams men once walked up to a woman with two children and said to her

"i am going to kill one of your daughters right now, you have to pick which one i will kill, if you dont pick one, ill kill both"

with things like that going on, how can you say it is wrong for us to go in and stop it?

3V2000GT · 05-30-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Teal_Beast

they definatly had video/audio clips and docs of them doing it . . it was on the news,

NO we never found them physically

but

YES we knew they had and used them, testing them on there own people.

one of sadams men once walked up to a woman with two children and said to her

"i am going to kill one of your daughters right now, you have to pick which one i will kill, if you dont pick one, ill kill both"

with things like that going on, how can you say it is wrong for us to go in and stop it?

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Originally Posted by Teal_Beast

and about the "what did saddam do to us" is like saying "what did hitler do to us?" (in like 1938)

:stupid: When it comes down to it Saddam is an evil person and the world is better without him! Doesnt matter what you are dem. , rep, Lib. you know this and you can't deny it, end of discussion

stang00 · 05-30-2006, 01:26 PM

bush was right for going to war however the methods he used i think were wrong saying that it was just becausde of 9\11 when we know that was bs and how oil was involved as well as saddam being a piece of **** and killing people those were all factors not just one of them so all u people bitches about opil and gas f off there more reasons then that

sumthing i also herd is y do we have troops in like germany and all these places where we dont need them just a ? not looking for a fight

Shambles · 05-30-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

:stupid: When it comes down to it Saddam is an evil person and the world is better without him! Doesnt matter what you are dem. , rep, Lib. you know this and you can't deny it, end of discussion

I don't think that anyone is questioning the validity of that. Saddam was a bad person, but at the time he was not a threat to the United States security.

That is the point. There are lots of areas that need international help (Darfur region anyone) but nobody is going in and helping them. We're the world police when it comes to Iraq, but when other areas need even more of our help, we turn a blind eye.

SlicK · 05-30-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

:stupid: When it comes down to it Saddam is an evil person and the world is better without him! Doesnt matter what you are dem. , rep, Lib. you know this and you can't deny it, end of discussion

The world is better without Sadaam running free, but us killing innocent people and having thousands of our soldiers killed over there for this one man? I know there are other ways of getting a hold of him. Why didn't Bush have the SEALs or Marine Force Recon run ops over there to get him before all this blew up in our face? It all leads back to him wanting to invade for the oil. I know you guys are sick of hearing that but that is what it all leads to. Saying you're sick of hearing about the oil thing is like saying your sick of hearing about Hitler killing Jews; other than that he wasn't a bad guy.

1 BAD S · 05-30-2006, 04:40 PM

shambles do you think all we are doing over there is running around with our guns and blowing away everything and everyone we see. and all the soldiers i talk to when they came home all say they are going back to finish the job. all the guys i talk to say the people over there thank our soldiers day for what they are doing. so if the people over there tell our soldiers thanks for what we are doind, we must be doing something right. and when you say we shouldnt be over there, you are disgraceing every soldier that has died over there. i have friends that have lost family members in this war. so if you tell me that they dide for nothing i would gladly kick your a$$. so you should just go back to your desk and continue shipping out mustang parts, and i will continue my dream in joining the air force and defending this great country of ours so you can have the freedom to disagree with our pres and wars. im done talking to you dude.

SlicK · 05-30-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S

shambles do you think all we are doing over there is running around with our guns and blowing away everything and everyone we see. and all the soldiers i talk to when they came home all say they are going back to finish the job. all the guys i talk to say the people over there thank our soldiers day for what they are doing. so if the people over there tell our soldiers thanks for what we are doind, we must be doing something right. and when you say we shouldnt be over there, you are disgraceing every soldier that has died over there. i have friends that have lost family members in this war. so if you tell me that they dide for nothing i would gladly kick your a$$. so you should just go back to your desk and continue shipping out mustang parts, and i will continue my dream in joining the air force and defending this great country of ours so you can have the freedom to disagree with our pres and wars. im done talking to you dude.

They must be luckly guys. About 50% of the people over there want us to just leave because we're making the fighting worse with all the insurgents. I've seen a video with a group of little kids stomping on and tossing around and American soldier's leg. The parents are there cheering them on. I'll try and find it so I can post it and you can see how much they appreciate us.

1 BAD S · 05-30-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicK

They must be luckly guys. About 50% of the people over there want us to just leave because we're making the fighting worse with all the insurgents. I've seen a video with a group of little kids stomping on and tossing around and American soldier's leg. The parents are there cheering them on. I'll try and find it so I can post it and you can see how much they appreciate us.

i would like to see where you got the 50% number. prolly CNN. and dude i dont want to see that video, what are you fuggin sick. im still laughing at that 50% number. thats fuggin BS. you have no idea how many military people i know, everyone is going back. i havent talked to one yet that is against the war.

SlicK · 05-30-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S

i would like to see where you got the 50% number. prolly CNN. and dude i dont want to see that video, what are you fuggin sick. im still laughing at that 50% number. thats fuggin BS. you have no idea how many military people i know, everyone is going back. i havent talked to one yet that is against the war.

No, I'm not ****in' sick. I want you to see the harsh reality of us being in that country. Would you like it if the U.K. invaded our country, took away Timothy McVee (considering he was still alive and on the loose), and deprived our country of the few natural resources it has. Now you also have to remember you need to look at this from a 3rd world country's point of view, which means you have no way of defending yourself. Oh, and I might add, you've got some radical group fighting the U.K. and it just so happens that some of your friends/relatives get caught in the cross-fire of a gun fight or an explosion.

1 BAD S · 05-30-2006, 05:09 PM

hey buddy this is war, people get killed. yes it sucks. and i know loseing one person is too much. but this is war.

SlicK · 05-30-2006, 05:29 PM

Now I'm not a big hippie or anything, infact I'm going into OSU's (Ohio State) Army ROTC program and becoming an officer in the military. I just think there are many other ways of preventing this particular situation, and that's why I'm picking on Bush. WWII was unpreventable from our stand point. We joined mainly because we were attacked at Pearly Harbor, similar to 9/11 attacks, but Hitler was also killing millions of Jews, Gypseys, Homosexuals, etc. You can't stand for that. That war I can stand behind. I always support out troops no matter what, but I don't always support the administration and it's doings.

*madmatt* · 05-30-2006, 06:27 PM

I have to put this in, I dont participate in many political internet discussions, but here is something to chew on if you are an anti bush supporter/Kerry supporter.

Bush came into the presidency and into what I would consider the WORST presidency to come into. The man didnt get well moved into the white house before some assholes decided to catapult 2 747's into some of the tallest buildings in NYC, a plane into the pentagon, and hijack another that crash landed. Now, I have to ask, what would have Gore, or even Kerry done if presented? Im willing to bet that NO ONE would have any better rating as a president at this point in their presidency had it been anyone else. God knows we would be so far into a pile of crap had the other two actually won. Think about it. I have to admit, Im tired of soldiers dying over what turned out to be nothing, but God knows SOMETHING had to be done about Iraq, whether it was Bush or someone else. It doesnt help that Iraq KNEW we were coming months in advance and had AMPLE time to get rid of anything that could incriminate them, but we wont go there. Too much speculation. It makes me sick to see people that ride around with their anti-bush bumper stickers when IMO, what the hell else could he do. We live in a world where EVERYONE thinks someone owes them something. We have illegal immigrants wanting full citizenship, who are also draining our economy and natural disasters that are (in my opinion) doing the inevitable. But yet, it all seems to be Bush's fault, like he could actually DO something. Our Nation has become too liberal to get ANYTHING done, for God sakes, we cant even have "Christmas" parties without someone filing a discrimination lawsuit. Well, Im rambling about pointless stuff now, so Im done, but I just have to ask the anti-bush people, who the hell COULD have done anything with the hand of cards Bush has been dealt. I would love to see it come out any better...

1 BAD S · 05-30-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

I have to put this in, I dont participate in many political internet discussions, but here is something to chew on if you are an anti bush supporter/Kerry supporter.

Bush came into the presidency and into what I would consider the WORST presidency to come into. The man didnt get well moved into the white house before some assholes decided to catapult 2 747's into some of the tallest buildings in NYC, a plane into the pentagon, and hijack another that crash landed. Now, I have to ask, what would have Gore, or even Kerry done if presented? Im willing to bet that NO ONE would have any better rating as a president at this point in their presidency had it been anyone else. God knows we would be so far into a pile of crap had the other two actually won. Think about it. I have to admit, Im tired of soldiers dying over what turned out to be nothing, but God knows SOMETHING had to be done about Iraq, whether it was Bush or someone else. It doesnt help that Iraq KNEW we were coming months in advance and had AMPLE time to get rid of anything that could incriminate them, but we wont go there. Too much speculation. It makes me sick to see people that ride around with their anti-bush bumper stickers when IMO, what the hell else could he do. We live in a world where EVERYONE thinks someone owes them something. We have illegal immigrants wanting full citizenship, who are also draining our economy and natural disasters that are (in my opinion) doing the inevitable. But yet, it all seems to be Bush's fault, like he could actually DO something. Our Nation has become too liberal to get ANYTHING done, for God sakes, we cant even have "Christmas" parties without someone filing a discrimination lawsuit. Well, Im rambling about pointless stuff now, so Im done, but I just have to ask the anti-bush people, who the hell COULD have done anything with the hand of cards Bush has been dealt. I would love to see it come out any better...

couldnt have said it better myself man. and you also forgot Hurricane Katrina was Bush's fault also. i cant stand all that BS. nice post!

Badfish · 05-30-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

I have to put this in, I dont participate in many political internet discussions, but here is something to chew on if you are an anti bush supporter/Kerry supporter.

Bush came into the presidency and into what I would consider the WORST presidency to come into. The man didnt get well moved into the white house before some assholes decided to catapult 2 747's into some of the tallest buildings in NYC, a plane into the pentagon, and hijack another that crash landed. Now, I have to ask, what would have Gore, or even Kerry done if presented? Im willing to bet that NO ONE would have any better rating as a president at this point in their presidency had it been anyone else. God knows we would be so far into a pile of crap had the other two actually won. Think about it. I have to admit, Im tired of soldiers dying over what turned out to be nothing, but God knows SOMETHING had to be done about Iraq, whether it was Bush or someone else. It doesnt help that Iraq KNEW we were coming months in advance and had AMPLE time to get rid of anything that could incriminate them, but we wont go there. Too much speculation. It makes me sick to see people that ride around with their anti-bush bumper stickers when IMO, what the hell else could he do. We live in a world where EVERYONE thinks someone owes them something. We have illegal immigrants wanting full citizenship, who are also draining our economy and natural disasters that are (in my opinion) doing the inevitable. But yet, it all seems to be Bush's fault, like he could actually DO something. Our Nation has become too liberal to get ANYTHING done, for God sakes, we cant even have "Christmas" parties without someone filing a discrimination lawsuit. Well, Im rambling about pointless stuff now, so Im done, but I just have to ask the anti-bush people, who the hell COULD have done anything with the hand of cards Bush has been dealt. I would love to see it come out any better...

*madmatt* · 05-30-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S

couldnt have said it better myself man. and you also forgot Hurricane Katrina was Bush's fault also. i cant stand all that BS. nice post!

That was the natural disaster part. LOL re read it.

3V2000GT · 05-30-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by madmatt

I have to put this in, I dont participate in many political internet discussions, but here is something to chew on if you are an anti bush supporter/Kerry supporter.

Bush came into the presidency and into what I would consider the WORST presidency to come into. The man didnt get well moved into the white house before some assholes decided to catapult 2 747's into some of the tallest buildings in NYC, a plane into the pentagon, and hijack another that crash landed. Now, I have to ask, what would have Gore, or even Kerry done if presented? Im willing to bet that NO ONE would have any better rating as a president at this point in their presidency had it been anyone else. God knows we would be so far into a pile of crap had the other two actually won. Think about it. I have to admit, Im tired of soldiers dying over what turned out to be nothing, but God knows SOMETHING had to be done about Iraq, whether it was Bush or someone else. It doesnt help that Iraq KNEW we were coming months in advance and had AMPLE time to get rid of anything that could incriminate them, but we wont go there. Too much speculation. It makes me sick to see people that ride around with their anti-bush bumper stickers when IMO, what the hell else could he do. We live in a world where EVERYONE thinks someone owes them something. We have illegal immigrants wanting full citizenship, who are also draining our economy and natural disasters that are (in my opinion) doing the inevitable. But yet, it all seems to be Bush's fault, like he could actually DO something. Our Nation has become too liberal to get ANYTHING done, for God sakes, we cant even have "Christmas" parties without someone filing a discrimination lawsuit. Well, Im rambling about pointless stuff now, so Im done, but I just have to ask the anti-bush people, who the hell COULD have done anything with the hand of cards Bush has been dealt. I would love to see it come out any better...

Wow.... awesome Matt, I 100% agree, Couldn't have said it better

*madmatt* · 05-30-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

Wow.... awesome Matt, I 100% agree, Couldn't have said it better

Just call it like I see it. :shrug:

3V2000GT · 05-30-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S

all the soldiers i talk to when they came home all say they are going back to finish the job. all the guys i talk to say the people over there thank our soldiers day for what they are doing. so if the people over there tell our soldiers thanks for what we are doind, we must be doing something right. .

I hear the same things from all of the soldiers I talk to, Do you ever watch the military channel? You guys cant believe everything you hear on CNN and Gay MTV news, most news stations are bias and will only tell you half the truth

1 BAD S · 05-30-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The2000GT

I hear the same things from all of the soldiers I talk to, Do you ever watch the military channel? You guys cant believe everything you hear on CNN and Gay MTV news, most news stations are bias and will only tell you half the truth

i wish i got the military channel, ive been seeing some commercials for it on the descovery channel. looks awesome. but ya right when someone tells me that they heard something on the news, im just like shut the fu*k up you dumba$$.

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05-30-2006, 04:40 PM	#36 (permalink)
1 BAD S Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 720	shambles do you think all we are doing over there is running around with our guns and blowing away everything and everyone we see. and all the soldiers i talk to when they came home all say they are going back to finish the job. all the guys i talk to say the people over there thank our soldiers day for what they are doing. so if the people over there tell our soldiers thanks for what we are doind, we must be doing something right. and when you say we shouldnt be over there, you are disgraceing every soldier that has died over there. i have friends that have lost family members in this war. so if you tell me that they dide for nothing i would gladly kick your a$$. so you should just go back to your desk and continue shipping out mustang parts, and i will continue my dream in joining the air force and defending this great country of ours so you can have the freedom to disagree with our pres and wars. im done talking to you dude. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...03690207B9.htm (My Exhaust Vid)

05-30-2006, 05:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
1 BAD S Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 720	hey buddy this is war, people get killed. yes it sucks. and i know loseing one person is too much. but this is war. __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...03690207B9.htm (My Exhaust Vid)

05-30-2006, 06:27 PM	#42 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,911	I have to put this in, I dont participate in many political internet discussions, but here is something to chew on if you are an anti bush supporter/Kerry supporter. Bush came into the presidency and into what I would consider the WORST presidency to come into. The man didnt get well moved into the white house before some assholes decided to catapult 2 747's into some of the tallest buildings in NYC, a plane into the pentagon, and hijack another that crash landed. Now, I have to ask, what would have Gore, or even Kerry done if presented? Im willing to bet that NO ONE would have any better rating as a president at this point in their presidency had it been anyone else. God knows we would be so far into a pile of crap had the other two actually won. Think about it. I have to admit, Im tired of soldiers dying over what turned out to be nothing, but God knows SOMETHING had to be done about Iraq, whether it was Bush or someone else. It doesnt help that Iraq KNEW we were coming months in advance and had AMPLE time to get rid of anything that could incriminate them, but we wont go there. Too much speculation. It makes me sick to see people that ride around with their anti-bush bumper stickers when IMO, what the hell else could he do. We live in a world where EVERYONE thinks someone owes them something. We have illegal immigrants wanting full citizenship, who are also draining our economy and natural disasters that are (in my opinion) doing the inevitable. But yet, it all seems to be Bush's fault, like he could actually DO something. Our Nation has become too liberal to get ANYTHING done, for God sakes, we cant even have "Christmas" parties without someone filing a discrimination lawsuit. Well, Im rambling about pointless stuff now, so Im done, but I just have to ask the anti-bush people, who the hell COULD have done anything with the hand of cards Bush has been dealt. I would love to see it come out any better... __________________ RPMPlanets