Hey cobra guys!

03_GT · 11-12-2007, 08:17 PM

pulled this off a thread on a mustang club im in! Tell me this is not insane HP!

The Newest Hellion Turbo System shown at SEMA... Produces 1600HP

Retail would be around $7400.00 (Just For The Kit!)

Widowmaker[X] · 11-12-2007, 08:27 PM

May god have mercy on the soul of anyone who buys one of those...

*JackThe Ripper* · 11-12-2007, 08:27 PM

I bet that thing would blow a stock cobra engine in seconds. lol...

03_GT · 11-12-2007, 08:31 PM

lol, yeah, but that is insane, i did not think it was possible!

*venom* · 11-12-2007, 09:19 PM

Its awesome but not realistic for a street car.

ClemsonStang · 11-13-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by venom

Its awesome but not realistic for a street car.

why not? with the advances in tuning, itll make 8lbs, and with the press of a button on a tuner, or a laptop, your looking at 25+psi. sounds perfect to me. great thing about turbos is just because they are there, doesnt mean they are being used.

03_GT · 11-13-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonStang

why not? with the advances in tuning, itll make 8lbs, and with the press of a button on a tuner, or a laptop, your looking at 25+psi. sounds perfect to me. great thing about turbos is just because they are there, doesnt mean they are being used.

I like the way you think, The guy that is in our club he is thing about getting this setup, His cobra already has 719RWHP,

*venom* · 11-13-2007, 07:25 PM

Trying putting that down on street tires. Its not all about HP and who makes the most but who can lay it down on the road.

r3dn3ck · 11-13-2007, 08:28 PM

wasn't it callaway that tried to do a super and turbo charged vette.... blazing power and totally useless car with really stagey boost. It'd be nice if you could clutch the blower so it only comes on to give boost under 3500rpm and let the turbos blow through it above that. much more efficient.

Mixedbreed02GT · 11-13-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper

I bet that thing would blow a stock cobra engine in seconds. lol...

why would it blow a stock cobra engine in seconds?

03/04 cobra motors were built with forged internals.

a guy in the SVTOA Nashville Club I am in has a red 03 with a Whipple 2.3, and he's running 17 pounds of boost, on his stock 03 cobra motor. Makes 630 rwhp.

r3dn3ck · 11-14-2007, 09:23 AM

there's a big difference between 1600hp and 600hp. The extra thousand is something of a mean spirited bitch to try and keep contained. You can't use the termy engine as is with any hope of durability after about 700rwhp. Then it's time for better head sealing and more bottom end work, harder bearings, ARP stud kits, blah blah blah blah... = big $

Termy engines are no doubt great strong beasts but just having forged internals doesn't make them bullet proof. Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

yellowstang99 · 11-14-2007, 07:51 PM

I saw this setup on another forum. Hellion says it can work with the factory blower, but from what I've read, the people who have ran it gutted the factory blower, so the blower pretty much becomes an idler pulley, and they just run the twins...So, you think your racing a eaton blown cobra, till you hear the blow off valve's as they whiz by you...

Hellion does make a mean kit. Friend of mine has a hellion twin setup on his 2v 2001 GT, and he just put down 765 at the wheels on a mustang dyno two weeks ago when we were at the shop for dyno day.

TClark22 · 11-16-2007, 09:06 AM

umm hate to burst your bubbles but this works on the stock block...

they have been testing it on an 03/04 cobra...it was making something like 44psi...it has made many passes down the track...but they upped the boost and the heads lifted.

03/04 cobra internals are already forged...

r3dn3ck · 11-16-2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

there's a big difference between 1600hp and 600hp. The extra thousand is something of a mean spirited bitch to try and keep contained. You can't use the termy engine as is with any hope of durability after about 700rwhp. Then it's time for better head sealing and more bottom end work, better bearings, ARP stud kits, blah blah blah blah... = big $

Termy engines are no doubt great strong beasts but just having forged internals doesn't make them bullet proof. Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TClark22

umm hate to burst your bubbles but this works on the stock block...

they have been testing it on an 03/04 cobra...it was making something like 44psi...it has made many passes down the track...but they upped the boost and the heads lifted.

03/04 cobra internals are already forged...

Tclark... gotta read the meat bud. Anther note, it kinda depends on which track you run it as to if it's a really bad idea or just a bad idea. 1/8mile runs are done in just a few seconds by such beasts... 1/4mile runs take a bit longer. You can run a helluva lot of boost for 1-4 seconds but you can't do that same boost for 8 seconds or you'll cross the line with a melted glob.

So I'll repeat: Forged internals don't mean dick. They still break, it just takes longer and they normally bend first, then break.

Badfish · 11-16-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

I can vouch for that

00blkstanggt · 11-16-2007, 02:52 PM

Yeah I highly doubt a stock cobra can take 1600hp for very long. The horsepower is starting to get really rediculous. It's almost like who cares about driving the car, lets just see how much power we can get and call it a day. Vipers are easily doing like 1500hp now with twin turbo kits and thats just not enough apparently.

r3dn3ck · 11-16-2007, 02:57 PM

a 400hp/tq car is more than most people can handle day to day. Beyond that you need to add weight or something to bring the street manners back and calm it down. We could all probably make due with 450rwhp so it kinda boggles my head that 600-700 is the new mark to hit for all the joe blow's out there. Why... when 300-400 will break parts and speed limits just as well.

Find your happy spot and shoot for it. I found mine :P

11-12-2007, 08:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
03_GT Smoke Tires....Not Drugs. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 720	Hey cobra guys! pulled this off a thread on a mustang club im in! Tell me this is not insane HP! The Newest Hellion Turbo System shown at SEMA... Produces 1600HP Retail would be around $7400.00 (Just For The Kit!) __________________ 2003 GT 5 Speed JLT CAI UPR Off-Road X-Pipe Flow Master Super 44s Steeda Tri-ax short throw www.myspace.com/rustysurfer08

11-12-2007, 08:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
03_GT Smoke Tires....Not Drugs. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 720	lol, yeah, but that is insane, i did not think it was possible! __________________ 2003 GT 5 Speed JLT CAI UPR Off-Road X-Pipe Flow Master Super 44s Steeda Tri-ax short throw www.myspace.com/rustysurfer08

11-12-2007, 09:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
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11-13-2007, 07:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,508	Trying putting that down on street tires. Its not all about HP and who makes the most but who can lay it down on the road. __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

11-14-2007, 07:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
yellowstang99 35th Anniversary GT Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 428	I saw this setup on another forum. Hellion says it can work with the factory blower, but from what I've read, the people who have ran it gutted the factory blower, so the blower pretty much becomes an idler pulley, and they just run the twins...So, you think your racing a eaton blown cobra, till you hear the blow off valve's as they whiz by you... Hellion does make a mean kit. Friend of mine has a hellion twin setup on his 2v 2001 GT, and he just put down 765 at the wheels on a mustang dyno two weeks ago when we were at the shop for dyno day. __________________ Last edited by yellowstang99 : 11-14-2007 at 07:55 PM.

11-12-2007, 08:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Widowmaker[X] Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29	May god have mercy on the soul of anyone who buys one of those...

11-13-2007, 08:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,149	wasn't it callaway that tried to do a super and turbo charged vette.... blazing power and totally useless car with really stagey boost. It'd be nice if you could clutch the blower so it only comes on to give boost under 3500rpm and let the turbos blow through it above that. much more efficient.

11-14-2007, 09:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,149	there's a big difference between 1600hp and 600hp. The extra thousand is something of a mean spirited bitch to try and keep contained. You can't use the termy engine as is with any hope of durability after about 700rwhp. Then it's time for better head sealing and more bottom end work, harder bearings, ARP stud kits, blah blah blah blah... = big $ Termy engines are no doubt great strong beasts but just having forged internals doesn't make them bullet proof. Detonation kills forged pistons too...it just takes longer.

11-16-2007, 09:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
TClark22 Blown 2V Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kansas Posts: 2,297	umm hate to burst your bubbles but this works on the stock block... they have been testing it on an 03/04 cobra...it was making something like 44psi...it has made many passes down the track...but they upped the boost and the heads lifted. 03/04 cobra internals are already forged... __________________

11-16-2007, 02:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
00blkstanggt Hot, Nasty, Bad ass speed Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Livermore, Ca Posts: 1,792	Yeah I highly doubt a stock cobra can take 1600hp for very long. The horsepower is starting to get really rediculous. It's almost like who cares about driving the car, lets just see how much power we can get and call it a day. Vipers are easily doing like 1500hp now with twin turbo kits and thats just not enough apparently. __________________ Sound clip of my car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-MhgSI-owQ

11-16-2007, 02:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,149	a 400hp/tq car is more than most people can handle day to day. Beyond that you need to add weight or something to bring the street manners back and calm it down. We could all probably make due with 450rwhp so it kinda boggles my head that 600-700 is the new mark to hit for all the joe blow's out there. Why... when 300-400 will break parts and speed limits just as well. Find your happy spot and shoot for it. I found mine :P __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

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