Ok, so...i guess that box is bad

Shambles · 02-25-2006, 10:53 PM

Well, as our discussion on how my car keeps throwing those damn codes....well, I ran the car on the dyno today, and the dyno operator cut the run short (like didnt even go WOT) beacuse my a/f was sitting around 16. The dyno graph is not pretty. My a/f consistantly went up and up and up. He didnt want to blow my engine, so he just stopped.

So, in judging from what codes keep getting thrown, im thinking that I need to go ahead and replace that relay box, as i checked my CEL's and that code is consistantly coming up, and I might need another 02 sensor. im not too sure on that one. All I know is that he JUST dipped into open loop and the a/f ratio just didnt agree at all.

What was that price you told me for that box? Im first going to attempt to get my tuner to enrichen me a bit more, as he did lean me out, and there is a chance that the leaning that he did might have hurt me more than helped me.

In case you got that info from your drivability tech on what might be going on, I wouldnt mind hearing it. I might need another O2 sensor too, because, as an idiot, I replaced bank 2 and not bank 1 (i forgot bank 1 is on cylinder one :bash: :bash

and I threw out my bank two sensor, which is probably still good.

In case your tech is wondering, the codes I have been throwing are:

P0131 / P1131
And P1232 - Low speed fuel pump circuit relay malfunction

I checked for vac leaks and got nothing, but i might have to get one of the smoke tests done to see if I missed anything that I couldnt see (the carb cleaner didnt make my idle do anything at all, and the leaks that I did have I fixed).

To make a long story short (too late I know), I need the price for that relay box (in case I have to replace it) and possibly one more front O2 sensor (not sure on this one yet though). Let me know what your drivability tech was thinking as far as possible problems. I am going to have Nick undo the changes he made on my tune, so hopefully that will give me some starting point there.

Thanks Randy!

csledd · 02-25-2006, 10:54 PM

gah Chris, shut up about your slow car already...

lol j/p, but seriously I'll be glad when you get that thing fixed

Shambles · 02-25-2006, 10:56 PM

I'll shut up about it once I get the damn thing running properly...this thing is driving me NUTS!!

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 02-27-2006, 07:09 AM

Chris, $105.00 on that CCM and as soon as I get caught-up, I'll get wth Dennis and see what he has to say and the O2 was what, @$65.00?

Shambles · 02-27-2006, 07:38 AM

I might not need that O2, im going to have my tune tweaked and see what that does first, who knows, maybe that will eliminate the need for that CCM...

BTW ever seen a turboed 04 cobra? I have. It put down 712/718 on 100 Octane at 20.7# of boost!

00mustang_crazy00 · 02-27-2006, 08:03 AM

rofl complete change of topic but thats pretty sweet

Shambles · 02-27-2006, 10:31 AM

Randy, one other thing..

Think you can fax me over a diagram of what pins are used on the ECU for a 96 Cobra, I had one bent and im wondering if that might have caused this issue as well.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 02-27-2006, 10:39 AM

I'll check & I got your v/m, will call as soon as I get caught-up

Shambles · 02-27-2006, 10:51 AM

Works for me

.

02-25-2006, 10:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Ok, so...i guess that box is bad Well, as our discussion on how my car keeps throwing those damn codes....well, I ran the car on the dyno today, and the dyno operator cut the run short (like didnt even go WOT) beacuse my a/f was sitting around 16. The dyno graph is not pretty. My a/f consistantly went up and up and up. He didnt want to blow my engine, so he just stopped. So, in judging from what codes keep getting thrown, im thinking that I need to go ahead and replace that relay box, as i checked my CEL's and that code is consistantly coming up, and I might need another 02 sensor. im not too sure on that one. All I know is that he JUST dipped into open loop and the a/f ratio just didnt agree at all. What was that price you told me for that box? Im first going to attempt to get my tuner to enrichen me a bit more, as he did lean me out, and there is a chance that the leaning that he did might have hurt me more than helped me. In case you got that info from your drivability tech on what might be going on, I wouldnt mind hearing it. I might need another O2 sensor too, because, as an idiot, I replaced bank 2 and not bank 1 (i forgot bank 1 is on cylinder one :bash: :bash and I threw out my bank two sensor, which is probably still good. In case your tech is wondering, the codes I have been throwing are: P0131 / P1131 And P1232 - Low speed fuel pump circuit relay malfunction I checked for vac leaks and got nothing, but i might have to get one of the smoke tests done to see if I missed anything that I couldnt see (the carb cleaner didnt make my idle do anything at all, and the leaks that I did have I fixed). To make a long story short (too late I know), I need the price for that relay box (in case I have to replace it) and possibly one more front O2 sensor (not sure on this one yet though). Let me know what your drivability tech was thinking as far as possible problems. I am going to have Nick undo the changes he made on my tune, so hopefully that will give me some starting point there. Thanks Randy! __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

02-25-2006, 10:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	gah Chris, shut up about your slow car already... lol j/p, but seriously I'll be glad when you get that thing fixed __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

02-25-2006, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	I'll shut up about it once I get the damn thing running properly...this thing is driving me NUTS!! __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

02-27-2006, 07:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,632	Chris, $105.00 on that CCM and as soon as I get caught-up, I'll get wth Dennis and see what he has to say and the O2 was what, @$65.00? __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

02-27-2006, 07:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	I might not need that O2, im going to have my tune tweaked and see what that does first, who knows, maybe that will eliminate the need for that CCM... BTW ever seen a turboed 04 cobra? I have. It put down 712/718 on 100 Octane at 20.7# of boost! __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

02-27-2006, 08:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
00mustang_crazy00 The Canadian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 335	rofl complete change of topic but thats pretty sweet

02-27-2006, 10:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Randy, one other thing.. Think you can fax me over a diagram of what pins are used on the ECU for a 96 Cobra, I had one bent and im wondering if that might have caused this issue as well. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

02-27-2006, 10:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,632	I'll check & I got your v/m, will call as soon as I get caught-up __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

02-27-2006, 10:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Works for me . __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

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