View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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#7594
08-13-2009, 04:08 PM
So did you use the lightning lower? The torktech would require adapter plates. And a donor blower set up. I could go twins I've always wanted them =) and just build a strong bottom w hps intake and make run for meantime and then save for turbos and just fab up my own headers and pipes I could use all my stuff I got and cut some of the inital cost right from the start
#7595
08-13-2009, 07:27 PM
Good luck getting a "clunker" motor. There is already a couple on my lot alone, and it saddens me to no end knowing I could have a complete, running motor in a couple hours.
Fact is, dealers have specific instructions; we have to run the "special" solution in the motor at x rpm until it stops running. ALL drivetrain components must remain intact. Removing the motor breaks the rules of the program, and the dealer might have to eat that $4500. They more than likely wont risk it.
Fact is, dealers have specific instructions; we have to run the "special" solution in the motor at x rpm until it stops running. ALL drivetrain components must remain intact. Removing the motor breaks the rules of the program, and the dealer might have to eat that $4500. They more than likely wont risk it.
i know the dealers are suppose to do that but when u know someone that runs the used car side of a dealership it helps.
who is to say that the 4.6 sohc from a 98 mustang didnt come in an e-series van when they go to destroy it. they will be none the wiser.
woot
#7596
08-13-2009, 07:50 PM
make a road trip to alabama. there are vans and trucks her ein the junkyards with 5.4's everywhere. i got 3 engines for 100 out of one junkyard.
#7597
08-13-2009, 08:27 PM
#7600
08-13-2009, 11:11 PM
That's what I thought I'm just starting to itch and I wanna get mine in by christmas so I'm thinking build it strong n/a and add the boost of some sort later... I wanna upgrade all the drivetrain after inital install. A friend had a 04 terminator with a kennebell making 601 to the ground when I got drive it and that's exactly where I wanna finish up. Imo that was the edge for me. 
#7602
08-14-2009, 08:29 AM
best bet is to look for a shop with a few old wrecked trucks. with the economy the way it is, they might give a super deal on the truck/van....
#7603
08-14-2009, 10:52 AM
im still not sure if i want to just buy a 5.4 block or try and get a complete engine. i am planning on just leaving it all stock internals for now so im thinking a full engine. or can i get the stock rotating assembly pretty cheap?
Last edited by liljojo4711; 08-14-2009 at 10:54 AM.
#7604
08-14-2009, 03:23 PM
what part of texas are you in?
#7605
08-14-2009, 05:14 PM
Check the houston craigs list there's a e350 5.4 2v on there with a newer expidtiion engine needing a swap intake and you'd be set for 600 right now... well I saw it on there at 4am this morning. =) if I hadn't spent my funds for the wk id pick it up myself for the meantime
#7606
08-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Check the houston craigs list there's a e350 5.4 2v on there with a newer expidtiion engine needing a swap intake and you'd be set for 600 right now... well I saw it on there at 4am this morning. =) if I hadn't spent my funds for the wk id pick it up myself for the meantime
#7608
08-15-2009, 08:11 AM
vids will be up soon but last nite on the dyno hunter made 295rwhp 346rwtq thru the long tubes and automatic with a loose converter. then with a little gigglegas he made 375rwhp 436rwtq.... i'll try to get the graph and vid up later.....
#7609
08-15-2009, 08:37 AM
will do. i will probably need some help lol. u find any good 5.4 engines let me know.
#7610
08-15-2009, 09:25 AM
After watching the builds done by myillwillinc and sleepingGt (tommy and hunter)
I've made the decision to do the swap as well. I'm waiting on the title for the car its going in as we speak. If all goes well I'll be getting started near the end of the year.
I've made the decision to do the swap as well. I'm waiting on the title for the car its going in as we speak. If all goes well I'll be getting started near the end of the year.
Last edited by bhamgreg; 08-15-2009 at 10:18 AM.
#7611
08-15-2009, 01:21 PM
i found a 2000 dohc navi engine for $1650. that a good deal? i guess i would need to buy a sullivan intake, how much are those? are the heads that come with the engine good or no?
#7612
08-16-2009, 02:36 AM
if its intake to oil pan then heck yes its a good deal. i got intake to oil pan plus wire harness on my 2v and paid 1200. what do you mean are the heads good?
#7614
08-16-2009, 09:15 AM
would the dohc bolt right in like the sohc? what would be some baseline #'s for the dohc? i know the sohc would be around 260hp and 340tq...
i heard the sullivan intake is like 1k?
i heard the sullivan intake is like 1k?
#7615
08-16-2009, 09:59 AM
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...b5e536d00d2de5
about $700 but they're more of a race item, in other words, its gonna be weak down low. I think the birdman swap intake is about $2500, expensive but a better street intake.
about $700 but they're more of a race item, in other words, its gonna be weak down low. I think the birdman swap intake is about $2500, expensive but a better street intake.
#7616
08-16-2009, 10:06 AM
I was having an issue with my defrost not working, and on a couple hot days (like 95) the temp gauge wanted to climb. I'm fairly sure I've got a air pocket in there.
I talked to one of the guys I know and he told me he always fills mod motors from the thermostat, not the degas bottle. So any of you guys that have yet to do it, I'd keep that in mind.
I talked to one of the guys I know and he told me he always fills mod motors from the thermostat, not the degas bottle. So any of you guys that have yet to do it, I'd keep that in mind.
#7617
08-16-2009, 10:25 AM
hunter did ok last nite. best time was 7.93 in the 1/8. still not taking off good 60' stays at 1.9x so that and his nitrous not working right are keeping from better times. but i'll post some vids of his runs in a few.
this is an all motor pass of 8.43
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=VID00006.flv
this is an all motor pass of 8.43
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=VID00006.flv
Last edited by myillwillinc; 08-16-2009 at 10:42 AM.
#7618
08-16-2009, 11:09 AM
Just for reference for people looking for baseline numbers across the board, I've listed power outputs for 4.6's and 5.4's in various vehicles by year.
2V
1996-98 Mustang::4.6L, 215hp
1996-98 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.; 5.4L, 235hp,335lb-ft.
1997-98 Expedition::4.6L, 215hp,290lb-ft.; 5.4L, 230hp,325lb-ft.
1997-98 E-series::4.6L, 215hp,290lb-ft.; 5.4L,230hp,325lb-ft.
1999-04 Mustang::4.6L, 260hp,302lb-ft.
1999 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.;5.4L, 195hp,290lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
1999-00 Lightning::5.4L, 360hp,440lb-ft.
1999-04 Expedition::4.6L, 232hp,291lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
1999-04 E-series::4.6L, 232hp,291lb-ft.;5.4L,260hp,350lb-ft.
2000 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.;4.6L, 260hp,302lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
2001-04 F150::4.6L,231hp,293lb-ft.;4.6L,260hp,350lb-ft.;5.4L,260hp,350lb-ft.
2001-04 Lightning::5.4L, 380hp,450lb-ft.
2002 Excursion::5.4L, 255hp,350lb-ft.
2002 Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer::4.6L, 240hp,280lb-ft.
2005 F150::4.6L,231hp,293lb-ft.
4V
1993-98 Mark VIII::4.6L, 280hp
1996-98 Cobra::4.6L, 305hp,300lb-ft.
1999&01 Cobra::4.6L, 320hp,317lb-ft.
1999-04 Navigator::5.4L, 300hp,355lb-ft.
2000 Cobra R::5.4L, 385hp,385lb-ft.
2003-05 Aviator::4.6L, 305hp, 320lb-ft.
2003-04 Marauder::4.6L,302hp,318lb-ft.
2003 Mach 1::4.6L, 305hp,320lb-ft.
2003 Cobra::4.6L, 390hp,390lb-ft.
2004 Mach 1::4.6L, 310hp,335lb-ft.
2005 GT(supercar)::5.4L, 550hp, 500lb-ft.
2007-09 GT500::5.4L, 500hp,480lb-ft.
2010 GT500::5.4L, 540hp.510lb-ft.
2V
1996-98 Mustang::4.6L, 215hp
1996-98 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.; 5.4L, 235hp,335lb-ft.
1997-98 Expedition::4.6L, 215hp,290lb-ft.; 5.4L, 230hp,325lb-ft.
1997-98 E-series::4.6L, 215hp,290lb-ft.; 5.4L,230hp,325lb-ft.
1999-04 Mustang::4.6L, 260hp,302lb-ft.
1999 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.;5.4L, 195hp,290lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
1999-00 Lightning::5.4L, 360hp,440lb-ft.
1999-04 Expedition::4.6L, 232hp,291lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
1999-04 E-series::4.6L, 232hp,291lb-ft.;5.4L,260hp,350lb-ft.
2000 F150::4.6L, 220hp,265lb-ft.;4.6L, 260hp,302lb-ft.;5.4L, 260hp,350lb-ft.
2001-04 F150::4.6L,231hp,293lb-ft.;4.6L,260hp,350lb-ft.;5.4L,260hp,350lb-ft.
2001-04 Lightning::5.4L, 380hp,450lb-ft.
2002 Excursion::5.4L, 255hp,350lb-ft.
2002 Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer::4.6L, 240hp,280lb-ft.
2005 F150::4.6L,231hp,293lb-ft.
4V
1993-98 Mark VIII::4.6L, 280hp
1996-98 Cobra::4.6L, 305hp,300lb-ft.
1999&01 Cobra::4.6L, 320hp,317lb-ft.
1999-04 Navigator::5.4L, 300hp,355lb-ft.
2000 Cobra R::5.4L, 385hp,385lb-ft.
2003-05 Aviator::4.6L, 305hp, 320lb-ft.
2003-04 Marauder::4.6L,302hp,318lb-ft.
2003 Mach 1::4.6L, 305hp,320lb-ft.
2003 Cobra::4.6L, 390hp,390lb-ft.
2004 Mach 1::4.6L, 310hp,335lb-ft.
2005 GT(supercar)::5.4L, 550hp, 500lb-ft.
2007-09 GT500::5.4L, 500hp,480lb-ft.
2010 GT500::5.4L, 540hp.510lb-ft.
#7620
08-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
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I'm back. Had my week off the internet. Damn that was a trip .
Got my fuel rails and 1 of my intercooler heat exchangers, need my IC pump, IC res, 1 more HE and my crank pulley and it's runnin'.
Anyone got any of those parts or something I can convert into it, LMK.
. Got my fuel rails and 1 of my intercooler heat exchangers, need my IC pump, IC res, 1 more HE and my crank pulley and it's runnin'.
Anyone got any of those parts or something I can convert into it, LMK.