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*r3dn3ck* · 08-14-2008, 09:15 AM

guys... PLEASE SEE MY POST IN THIS SECTION REGARDING HEADERS.

It's now or NEVER!

Tommy, call me around 4pm pacific if you can please.

*r3dn3ck* · 08-14-2008, 09:19 AM

96black, hose is shipped as of this morning. If you need a 3/8" NPT tap LMK. I can get them pretty reasonable.

myillwillinc · 08-14-2008, 01:09 PM

wow. now thats what i call makin something happen...

shakin_bakin · 08-14-2008, 05:07 PM

Ya, i was just wondering if anyone was still pursuing the bracket still. So the supercharger could be mounted on a 5.4....

I was wondering if anyone made a bracket for any of the F-150's to have superchargers...
i would think somoene with an f-150 would of tried this... but then thought why... you can just get a lightning motor and drop it in...
so stopped my search lol..

*r3dn3ck* · 08-14-2008, 07:22 PM

I've bid on several brackets on ebay but I have my price limits for shit I'm going to send to be chopped up and never see again, much less use.

The f150 bracket mounts the blower really high up and far over on the driver side and would require some interesting piping and a complete re-work to make work. If you all want to chip in I'll be more aggressive with my bidding and find a bracket to send to be worked up.

*r3dn3ck* · 08-14-2008, 07:23 PM

btw, as I understand it my car is now at the race builders shop getting bitchin ass longtubes. I would hope that I'm not buying a 5 thousand dollar set of headers and have nobody sign up. We'll have dyno numbers pretty quick... maybe a week or so. Need the deposits though or I'm just going to be a broke-ass-bitchin-exhaust-having-mutha-fukka

Morgan The Black · 08-14-2008, 08:14 PM

Any idea what the mid pipe options are looking like with those headers? Are they gonna have collectors or weld on?

TPSmak · 08-14-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

btw, as I understand it my car is now at the race builders shop getting bitchin ass longtubes. I would hope that I'm not buying a 5 thousand dollar set of headers and have nobody sign up. We'll have dyno numbers pretty quick... maybe a week or so. Need the deposits though or I'm just going to be a broke-ass-bitchin-exhaust-having-mutha-fukka

Yes.. if you are interested in a set please let us know or these units will not go into production

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan The Black

Any idea what the mid pipe options are looking like with those headers? Are they gonna have collectors or weld on?

They will have a collector and you'll be able to use any mid-pipe available,

myillwillinc · 08-14-2008, 10:00 PM

you kno i'm interested in something better then my 'prototypes' (i use this term very loose)....

SleepingGT · 08-15-2008, 05:31 AM

i have to say, right now i'm very glad i didn't pass on my jba shorties....now all we need is HPS to at the last minute tell us we are SOL also

*r3dn3ck* · 08-15-2008, 08:06 AM

nobody's said we're SOL... yet. In fact... we sorta totally aren't as the car is being actively fitted with them last I knew but, if you want them you gotta jump on it so we can make it happen in a way that you'll all be able to get your set. Otherwise I'm going to eat the whole cost and have the only set.

Word from Bob has come through. Things continue to progress at an exciting pace despite some setbacks.

shakin_bakin · 08-15-2008, 04:50 PM

I was just wondering... wasnt really that interested... was just trying to see what the options were on it incase i decide to put a YSI on my car or something instead of turbos... but i doubt that would happen...

but, if someone was making up a bracket and needed some kind of help that i could offer, that im not aware i could offer i would help

if you can understand what im saying is... i dont have a CNC machine, i dont know CADS, and i dont live in the US currently which sucks... so all i have is possibly ideas... that i havnt really thought through... so im no good

lol

shakin_bakin · 08-15-2008, 04:56 PM

ohh yes.... my update

Heads have been shipped to MMR to get ported and polished, Intake manifold sent to my house, i bought a set of foward facing turbo headers, they are being sent to get JET HOT coated... that is expensive... 250 just for my headers... cant imagine what the rest of my hot side is going to cost to get JET HOT coated

Bought the melling 10227 oil pump... so should be good to go there... also got a MMR oil pan, with 2 fittings welded on for the turbo drains.. a windage tray, for the 5.4 ...and some MISC fittings for the oil pan..

valve covers and all are on there way... all i have left to purchase, is cams, a few misc gaskets, lifters, followers (buying all new ones since ive spent so much money no since in holding out on a few pieces, even though my current set only has like 500 miles on them rather safe then sorry with this build) a few timing components, and a couple other MISC peices... when i say MISC... it means i still have like 800 worth of ARP hardware to buy probably lol... ohh and the UPR front suspension...

2V4NOW · 08-15-2008, 05:14 PM

Dressed the stang today with its "All Business" Attire.... We weighed the new setup compared to the old and I was amazed at the difference.... Dropping over 100+ lbs just in wheel weight, talk about a weight reduction

Old setup = 60.6lbs per rear wheel (tire moved scale just a tad before pic - dif .6)

New setup = 32.8lbs per rear wheel

We havent put the front runners on yet - still need a bigger spacer BUT here are a couple of what the rears look like on the car...

AND

2 quick burnout vids.... excuse shitty sound quality, too much for my camera to handle...:burnout:

myillwillinc · 08-15-2008, 09:32 PM

awesome man!!!!

ibanezsvo · 08-16-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

... Otherwise I'm going to eat the whole cost and have the only set..

I would totally help you out... but I'm putting turbos in. I know how hard it is to make something happen, so I'm thankfull for the opportunity, sorry I can't help. But where is this post your talking about, .. I went back like 4 pages and didnt see anything.

myillwillinc · 08-16-2008, 04:19 PM

i'm doing turbo and long tubes... remote mount baby!!!!!

shakin_bakin · 08-16-2008, 06:49 PM

...wow....
ya i was looking at STS turbo kits... the universal one just now...
man thats a good idea!! and cheap...

wished i would of thought of that before i purchased my headers...

could of saved 2 G's

ibanezsvo · 08-17-2008, 07:07 AM

I hope you have good luck.. let me know, I heard they were made with cheap parts, and were not a good idea. But i was told by turbochargedpower.com Now that i'm looking at it again, it may actually be the better way for me to go. Whats your timeline for that?

Some pics of what I failed to do yesterday... AMP "thought" i had a Cobra and didn't send the new cross member bracket. So I am stuck w/o a car for a week.

*r3dn3ck* · 08-17-2008, 08:57 AM

it's cool... I've pretty much resigned myself to having the only set of $4K pipes in our little group. I'm sad to say that the count of those that are willing to fork out was lower than I thought and if things don't pick up they'll kill the retail side of the project. Still, my car is over at the builder getting its set so at least it's almost done. The exhaust costs for 2v has also killed my 4v conversion plans. Spent too much on the header project so I'm going to stay 2v now.

ibanezsvo · 08-17-2008, 10:32 AM

still.. tell me where i can find your post... or repost it for me. I'm curious. But arent the exaust ports for the 2V different for the 4V? If the ones you're having made work for the 4V, would they be good like illwill said for remote mount? And what kind of cost?

myillwillinc · 08-17-2008, 02:14 PM

u know i'm in on the headers man.......

*r3dn3ck* · 08-17-2008, 05:36 PM

the headers won't work for 4v heads.

Illwill.. youda man. Have hunter and anyone else you know call up TPS asap. They're getting nervous.

TPSmak · 08-17-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3dn3ck

the headers won't work for 4v heads.

Illwill.. youda man. Have hunter and anyone else you know call up TPS asap. They're getting nervous.

Common guys... if you guys are serious about having us make some Long-tubes I need to know if your interested in a set. Collin has told me most people are taking a $500 set of headers and paying someone $500+ plus to hack them up so they will fit... we're trying to provide a header which would be a direct fit for this swap... BUT, if people aren't going to be willing to pay for it we're not going to move forward with this project....

myillwillinc · 08-17-2008, 08:36 PM

i'll call tomarrow guys

shakin_bakin · 08-18-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibanezsvo

I hope you have good luck.. let me know, I heard they were made with cheap parts, and were not a good idea. But i was told by turbochargedpower.com Now that i'm looking at it again, it may actually be the better way for me to go. Whats your timeline for that?

Some pics of what I failed to do yesterday... AMP "thought" i had a Cobra and didn't send the new cross member bracket. So I am stuck w/o a car for a week.

If you are refering to me, i bought a set of the Ebay 4 valve foward facing headers from a guy at modularfords.com, and had him send them directly to JET HOT, to get them jet hot coated, and im going to just fab the whole hot side.... And Fab some brackets to support the weight... the brackets im going to have bolt to the frame at the front, all my hot side piping is going to be jet hot coated in sterling silver, and ill get the brackets jet hot coated aswell so they will all match up... my timing cover, intake, valve covers, are all polished, and the valve covers were they say 32v TURBOCHARGED, the saying is going to be painted dark green to match the egine bay i painted and also the exterior of the car...

THings i havnt worked out......

Routing of the serpintine belt.....

And still trying to figure out how widebands wire in, and boost gauges, and oil pressure gauges.. ok i dont understand how any gauges actually get installed..... so im about to go find a couple install manuals and read up lol.....

Morgan The Black · 08-18-2008, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Common guys... if you guys are serious about having us make some Long-tubes I need to know if your interested in a set. Collin has told me most people are taking a $500 set of headers and paying someone $500+ plus to hack them up so they will fit... we're trying to provide a header which would be a direct fit for this swap... BUT, if people aren't going to be willing to pay for it we're not going to move forward with this project....

How many people are we looking for to make this fly?

SleepingGT · 08-18-2008, 06:45 AM

i was interested in the headers and intake but i'm also out of time, i started medical school on 28th of july and i just need my car b/c 12mpg with my mud truck is killing me and repeated deadline changes just aren't something i can do anymore, especially related to the intake that we were supposed to have a year ago

as it sits the project is forged 9.5:1 5.5l with ported heads, ported/ceramic coated jba shorties and ported RR adapter plates and a cowl hood(wanted the hps

)

SleepingGT · 08-18-2008, 09:14 AM

what is everyone running for a harmonic balancer? i'm looking at just getting the steeda one..

edit: looking at this one also http://www.rpmoutlet.com/f150asp.htm

apparently steeda doesn't make a direct replacement one for 5.4, optimally i would like one that is stock diameter with a 6 rib set up but 6 rib didn't come stock on any 5.4's as far as i can tell so i guess i'm going to have to do 8 rib

Morgan The Black · 08-18-2008, 01:34 PM

The balancer/dampener is the same as a 4.6 so basically any one will work, underdrive or stock.

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08-14-2008, 09:15 AM	#4621 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	guys... PLEASE SEE MY POST IN THIS SECTION REGARDING HEADERS. It's now or NEVER! Tommy, call me around 4pm pacific if you can please. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-14-2008, 09:19 AM	#4622 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	96black, hose is shipped as of this morning. If you need a 3/8" NPT tap LMK. I can get them pretty reasonable. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-14-2008, 01:09 PM	#4623 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	wow. now thats what i call makin something happen... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-14-2008, 05:07 PM	#4624 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 213	bracket Ya, i was just wondering if anyone was still pursuing the bracket still. So the supercharger could be mounted on a 5.4.... I was wondering if anyone made a bracket for any of the F-150's to have superchargers... i would think somoene with an f-150 would of tried this... but then thought why... you can just get a lightning motor and drop it in... so stopped my search lol..

08-14-2008, 07:22 PM	#4625 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	I've bid on several brackets on ebay but I have my price limits for shit I'm going to send to be chopped up and never see again, much less use. The f150 bracket mounts the blower really high up and far over on the driver side and would require some interesting piping and a complete re-work to make work. If you all want to chip in I'll be more aggressive with my bidding and find a bracket to send to be worked up. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-14-2008, 07:23 PM	#4626 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	btw, as I understand it my car is now at the race builders shop getting bitchin ass longtubes. I would hope that I'm not buying a 5 thousand dollar set of headers and have nobody sign up. We'll have dyno numbers pretty quick... maybe a week or so. Need the deposits though or I'm just going to be a broke-ass-bitchin-exhaust-having-mutha-fukka __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-14-2008, 08:14 PM	#4627 (permalink)
Morgan The Black Creature Of The Wheel Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mebane, NC Posts: 337	Any idea what the mid pipe options are looking like with those headers? Are they gonna have collectors or weld on? __________________ Mechanism, I restore thy spirit. Let the God-Machine breathe half-life unto thy veins and render thee functional.

08-14-2008, 10:00 PM	#4629 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	you kno i'm interested in something better then my 'prototypes' (i use this term very loose).... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-15-2008, 05:31 AM	#4630 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 216	i have to say, right now i'm very glad i didn't pass on my jba shorties....now all we need is HPS to at the last minute tell us we are SOL also

08-15-2008, 08:06 AM	#4631 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	nobody's said we're SOL... yet. In fact... we sorta totally aren't as the car is being actively fitted with them last I knew but, if you want them you gotta jump on it so we can make it happen in a way that you'll all be able to get your set. Otherwise I'm going to eat the whole cost and have the only set. Word from Bob has come through. Things continue to progress at an exciting pace despite some setbacks. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-15-2008, 04:50 PM	#4632 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 213	bracket I was just wondering... wasnt really that interested... was just trying to see what the options were on it incase i decide to put a YSI on my car or something instead of turbos... but i doubt that would happen... but, if someone was making up a bracket and needed some kind of help that i could offer, that im not aware i could offer i would help if you can understand what im saying is... i dont have a CNC machine, i dont know CADS, and i dont live in the US currently which sucks... so all i have is possibly ideas... that i havnt really thought through... so im no good lol

08-15-2008, 04:56 PM	#4633 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 213	ohh yes.... my update Heads have been shipped to MMR to get ported and polished, Intake manifold sent to my house, i bought a set of foward facing turbo headers, they are being sent to get JET HOT coated... that is expensive... 250 just for my headers... cant imagine what the rest of my hot side is going to cost to get JET HOT coated Bought the melling 10227 oil pump... so should be good to go there... also got a MMR oil pan, with 2 fittings welded on for the turbo drains.. a windage tray, for the 5.4 ...and some MISC fittings for the oil pan.. valve covers and all are on there way... all i have left to purchase, is cams, a few misc gaskets, lifters, followers (buying all new ones since ive spent so much money no since in holding out on a few pieces, even though my current set only has like 500 miles on them rather safe then sorry with this build) a few timing components, and a couple other MISC peices... when i say MISC... it means i still have like 800 worth of ARP hardware to buy probably lol... ohh and the UPR front suspension...

08-15-2008, 05:14 PM	#4634 (permalink)
2V4NOW Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Dressed the stang today with its "All Business" Attire.... We weighed the new setup compared to the old and I was amazed at the difference.... Dropping over 100+ lbs just in wheel weight, talk about a weight reduction Old setup = 60.6lbs per rear wheel (tire moved scale just a tad before pic - dif .6) New setup = 32.8lbs per rear wheel We havent put the front runners on yet - still need a bigger spacer BUT here are a couple of what the rears look like on the car... AND 2 quick burnout vids.... excuse shitty sound quality, too much for my camera to handle...:burnout: __________________

08-15-2008, 09:32 PM	#4635 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	awesome man!!!! __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-16-2008, 04:19 PM	#4637 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	i'm doing turbo and long tubes... remote mount baby!!!!! __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-16-2008, 06:49 PM	#4638 (permalink)
shakin_bakin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 213	...wow.... ya i was looking at STS turbo kits... the universal one just now... man thats a good idea!! and cheap... wished i would of thought of that before i purchased my headers... could of saved 2 G's

08-17-2008, 07:07 AM	#4639 (permalink)
ibanezsvo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 109	I hope you have good luck.. let me know, I heard they were made with cheap parts, and were not a good idea. But i was told by turbochargedpower.com Now that i'm looking at it again, it may actually be the better way for me to go. Whats your timeline for that? Some pics of what I failed to do yesterday... AMP "thought" i had a Cobra and didn't send the new cross member bracket. So I am stuck w/o a car for a week. Last edited by ibanezsvo; 08-17-2008 at 07:33 AM..

08-17-2008, 08:57 AM	#4640 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	it's cool... I've pretty much resigned myself to having the only set of $4K pipes in our little group. I'm sad to say that the count of those that are willing to fork out was lower than I thought and if things don't pick up they'll kill the retail side of the project. Still, my car is over at the builder getting its set so at least it's almost done. The exhaust costs for 2v has also killed my 4v conversion plans. Spent too much on the header project so I'm going to stay 2v now. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-17-2008, 10:32 AM	#4641 (permalink)
ibanezsvo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 109	still.. tell me where i can find your post... or repost it for me. I'm curious. But arent the exaust ports for the 2V different for the 4V? If the ones you're having made work for the 4V, would they be good like illwill said for remote mount? And what kind of cost?

08-17-2008, 02:14 PM	#4642 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	u know i'm in on the headers man....... __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-17-2008, 05:36 PM	#4643 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,842	the headers won't work for 4v heads. Illwill.. youda man. Have hunter and anyone else you know call up TPS asap. They're getting nervous. __________________ Built 5.5L 2v and Maximum Motorsports Max Grip box. www.squarerootofone.com

08-17-2008, 08:36 PM	#4645 (permalink)
myillwillinc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bham, ala Posts: 889	i'll call tomarrow guys __________________ 5.4 project in progress linky-> http://www.illwillinc.com/97mustang.htm T-Rods Coatings - Custom all the way.... http://www.illwillinc.com/

08-18-2008, 06:45 AM	#4648 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 216	i was interested in the headers and intake but i'm also out of time, i started medical school on 28th of july and i just need my car b/c 12mpg with my mud truck is killing me and repeated deadline changes just aren't something i can do anymore, especially related to the intake that we were supposed to have a year ago as it sits the project is forged 9.5:1 5.5l with ported heads, ported/ceramic coated jba shorties and ported RR adapter plates and a cowl hood(wanted the hps )

08-18-2008, 09:14 AM	#4649 (permalink)
SleepingGT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 216	what is everyone running for a harmonic balancer? i'm looking at just getting the steeda one.. edit: looking at this one also http://www.rpmoutlet.com/f150asp.htm apparently steeda doesn't make a direct replacement one for 5.4, optimally i would like one that is stock diameter with a 6 rib set up but 6 rib didn't come stock on any 5.4's as far as i can tell so i guess i'm going to have to do 8 rib Last edited by SleepingGT; 08-18-2008 at 09:30 AM..

08-18-2008, 01:34 PM	#4650 (permalink)
Morgan The Black Creature Of The Wheel Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mebane, NC Posts: 337	The balancer/dampener is the same as a 4.6 so basically any one will work, underdrive or stock. __________________ Mechanism, I restore thy spirit. Let the God-Machine breathe half-life unto thy veins and render thee functional.

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