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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
1.82%
Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
12.73%
Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
16.82%
Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
25.45%
Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
15.45%
Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
18.64%
Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
7.73%
Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
1.36%
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:05 PM
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i come across another and thought i'd share.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...b80129aca7.htm

there are some pretty stout 5.4l stangs running around.
 
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I'll have to take a vid of mine and put it up there so all the douches can bag on me for having an ugly motor.
 
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
I'll have to take a vid of mine and put it up there so all the douches can bag on me for having an ugly motor.
haha. yeah. only thing i hate about that site. well, sometimes that can be the best part also. i thought it was pretty strange they rag 'ed supra for his stock intake WTF???!

ignorance is bliss i guess.
 
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:25 PM
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You guys really need to send your finished projects to a mustang magazine. The work you guys are doing is really amazing.
 
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tooslow
i come across another and thought i'd share.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...b80129aca7.htm

there are some pretty stout 5.4l stangs running around.
Link doesnt work for me...
 
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:52 PM
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works in internet explorer but no dice on firefox i guess...
Wow that thing must be a monster!
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:09 AM
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i don't think mine will ever be done....
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by myillwillinc
saleenride, can you take a pic of the supercharger bracket? i'm gonna start on mine as soon as i get dyno'd for NA...
I'll take a pic whenever I get it back which I hope is soon.
 
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:15 PM
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how long on intakes... as my project HAS to be wrapped up by early april....
 
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:22 PM
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Should be out in 2-3 weeks last I knew. Hoping for March. Email em' and ask. Bob usually responds.
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:13 AM
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Hey r3dn3ck, since you're the resident expert, Can you throw me some custom cam specs for a NA high compression (11 to 1) 5.4, 5 speed, 3.27 gears, more or less street car but I'm not worried about emissions. I would much appreciate it.
 
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Some wheels are turning in my head! Now that I'm back on my feet, I want to start finishing my projects. I've got another 5.4l to build, and breaking it apart now on the engine stand. My plans for this one will be N/A for my '95 CrownVic.

I will be wanting an intake, an HPS intake. I should have claimed one a while back, but I was in no position to make promises with money.

If anyone has claimed an intake and don't want it let me know. Or when the time comes and someone has bought one and don't want it...let me know!
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 96blackgt54
Some wheels are turning in my head! Now that I'm back on my feet, I want to start finishing my projects. I've got another 5.4l to build, and breaking it apart now on the engine stand. My plans for this one will be N/A for my '95 CrownVic.

I will be wanting an intake, an HPS intake. I should have claimed one a while back, but I was in no position to make promises with money.

If anyone has claimed an intake and don't want it let me know. Or when the time comes and someone has bought one and don't want it...let me know!
Got you down for 1. No problem.

Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
Hey r3dn3ck, since you're the resident expert, Can you throw me some custom cam specs for a NA high compression (11 to 1) 5.4, 5 speed, 3.27 gears, more or less street car but I'm not worried about emissions. I would much appreciate it.
how about idle quality (major lope, minor lope) and peak tq rpm.

here's a pretty bloody aggressive grind that desktop dyno seems to like:

@.050 numbers .550/.550 238/248 LSA 110, ICL 108, install 4deg retarded. Call Comp and have them grind this on their extreme energy blank. I have true IVO/EVO numbers if they need them. You'll want at least comp's .550 lift valvesprings.
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:02 AM
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As far as Idle, Major is fine, not like I've got power brakes anyway but as far as peak torque I wanna say 3000-3500 That sound reasonable for a street car? What're the IVO/EVO numbers just in case I need them.
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:17 AM
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It'll be a pretty ratty idle as there's a lot of overlap (23deg @.050). Peak tq on that cam should come in at 4500-5000rpm. It's a pretty aggressive cam. You can also install it straight up instead of 4deg retarded if you want. It'll have a little better low end that way.
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:36 AM
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What IVO/EVO do you have? My little dyno sim is showing IVO:11 IVC:47 EVO:56 EVC:12 with the specs you gave me.
and Thanks

I guess I just answered my own question, the curves look pretty good to me, 6k should be plenty for the peak HP and from what I've got its still showing 355ft-lbs at 2k and up to about 400ft-lbs by 3k, I imagine that would be just fine on the street.
 

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Old 02-23-2008, 03:07 PM
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I just saw on the karkraft website that they had new complete 5.4 3 valve motors on special for $1995. Figured I would mention it in this thread as it seems like a pretty good deal. It is just too bad there are no simple solutions for a intake manifold and headers for the 3 valave.
 
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Old 02-23-2008, 04:51 PM
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all things in time. If the 2v intake sells well enough I may be able to convince HPS to adjust the design for use on a 3v head. It would actually be kinda easy to make one that would allow front side or rear facing TB's too and it'd be based on the existing Hardball'r designs so time to production could be well under a year from the green light. It would have to be a more significant modification than the current 2v swaps are necessitating but the intake would probably fit most 96-08 applications.
 
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Hello
I am a newbie on this site and am sure that this has all been coverd before but am asking anyway
I have a 2000 gt vert that blew a seal in the vortech and hydro lock cyl#3 and just purchased a 2000 lightning motor that I pick up on thursday and am just figuring out how to attack this project

I know that the lightning 5.4 comes with forged piston and crank at 8.5 comp but are the rods any good? How much is this bottom end good for?

Would you use the eaton that comes with it or the v-2 vortech?

What to you guys think this combo with my stage 2 heads will make?
 
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:24 AM
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A set of good rods and the vortech would be a monster IMO
 
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:49 AM
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does anyone have a set of intake adapter plates. I need a set to get motor going until HPS intake is done. PM me and I will buy them.
 
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cdjnight
does anyone have a set of intake adapter plates. I need a set to get motor going until HPS intake is done. PM me and I will buy them.

I got a brand new set, never bolted on. $150 shipped is the best I can do, I payed $320 for them
 
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Originally Posted by singlesupra
I got a brand new set, never bolted on. $150 shipped is the best I can do, I payed $320 for them
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Originally Posted by singlesupra
A set of good rods and the vortech would be a monster IMO

I am thinking the vortech is the way I am going as maybe I can fit it all under the stock hood look stock haul *** is how I like it.
then sell the Lightning blower to pay for some of it.


from your response I take it the Lightning rods are not any better as was my hope
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:24 PM
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hmm did you all use 4.6 bearings or 5.4 main bearings???
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:44 PM
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4.6 and 5.4 bearings are the same bearings.

Use the centri blower... roots make a lot of tq and we've got plenty of that on motor. The centri blower will definitely be easier to deal with in the long run and turn out better numbers.

Lightnings use the same powdered metal cracked cap rods as any ol f150. They're good to about 450hp then you start seeing big breakages more often. I'd pick up a set of H-beams from TMD on ebay and call it a day. You'll need to have the rotating kit rebalanced but it's worth it. The rest of the L setup is great.

Depending on how you set it up look for 380+ rwhp (8psi) and 425+ rwtq. Ported heads, blower cam, longtubes, etc... all will add to the overall package. For a fully done up car with all the basics like those covered at about stage 2 equivalent... plan on feeding 500hp.

I'd start with 42lbs injectors and a Aviator pump.

I have 2 lightly used 04 cobra fuel pumps... 60 bucks shipped for the pair to any of you swappers.
 
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nevermind there specifically labeled... 4.6 and 5.4
 
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:56 PM
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cdjnight
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i would go with the avaitor pump but i have a aeromotive a1000 pump heading my way with -8an lines and rails to make sure she is fed properly from NA to the blower....
 


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