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View Poll Results: What are your 5.4L swap plans?
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Not swapping. You guys are nuts for trying.
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Not swapping but find the topic interesting.
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Thinking about doing the swap but not in the next year.
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Definitely going to do the swap in the next year or so.
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Doing it now. Looking for an engine or awaiting delivery.
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Doing it now. Already bought an engine.
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Done. Got my 5.4L and showin my tail lights to camaro's every day.
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Screw 5.4, I'm going diesel 4cylinder.
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02-07-2008, 07:33 AM
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#3631 (permalink)
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Wowbagger hates me too!
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
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250rwhp/389rwtq
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02-07-2008, 08:22 AM
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#3632 (permalink)
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friend of the machines
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oronoco, MN
Posts: 202
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobra1923
I might have missed something very obvious but in the SEMA section of the most recent 5.0 Mustang Mag there was a little blurp (and photo) about Professional Products making adapter plates "to run their 4.6L on a 5.4L".
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I just saw that last night....its really odd when I see those blurps in mags showing how people copied what I created....
To clarify, I don't have any problem with them being copied, its just weird to see..... 
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'01 Roush F150 Supercrew
264rwhp/343rwtq, OBX longtubes & Maggie spun cats, Flowmaster cat-back, '03 Cobra air meter, ported heads, 9.8:1, VMP tuned XCAL2, e-fans
'99 GT, 5.4 SOHC, life is better with 400ft-lbs....
12.94 on Nittos... sold
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02-07-2008, 09:01 AM
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#3633 (permalink)
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 269
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Well, that sucks. Cant do the nitrous tune now, I had completly forgotten that our cars are returnless fuel system and that a standard walbro gs341 pump want work :-( so needless to say it seems Im stuck on motor unless I can get the standalone system hooked up tonight to cover the n20.
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02-07-2008, 09:21 AM
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#3634 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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230rwhp/350tq all under 4500rpm's
I was digging through some parts and had forgot I had these made up. I thought some of you guys might be interested in them.
When I was doing my build I was shooting for 5.4l "B" series DOHC and was going to use a Sullivan carb intake with two sets of adapters. This set of adapters(unfinished) was going to be the "KNIFE" edge needed for the port split. And the second set was going to be the port matching of the mismatched ports. All the bolt holes are the same between the "B" and "C" series heads for the intake. After I would have made all the adapters there would have been 3 intake gaskets used per side. One for the "B: head, one "special" for the adapters, and one for the "C" shape intake.
If these sparks some ideas and you think you could use them, give me a PM. I'm all about trading, but a little cash is just as good. I am a big collector of 5.4l parts. Aftermarket or stock, just let me know.
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02-07-2008, 09:32 PM
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#3635 (permalink)
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Long shot I know but anyone have a hayes or chilton manual for a 99 mustang? My maxi26 fuse keeps blowing and would like to atleast narrow the issue down. This seems like its gonna keep me from hitting the dyno! Ive had the worst luck the last day getting the car ready for the dyno, until this point I had had no issues(other than the loose coolant hose) now I am supposed to be going to the dyno in the am and all this is happening!
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02-08-2008, 06:18 AM
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#3636 (permalink)
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Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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Sounds like pure luck to me!
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02-08-2008, 08:59 AM
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#3637 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 96blackgt54
If these sparks some ideas and you think you could use them, give me a PM. I'm all about trading, but a little cash is just as good. I am a big collector of 5.4l parts. Aftermarket or stock, just let me know.
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Definitely interested. LMK a cost... I'll check my bag of goodies for any trade items. Don't have much... maybe make you an oil air sep kit.
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02-08-2008, 12:30 PM
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Location: Lawrenceburg,KY
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OH YEA!
One of those oil sep kits would be great! I'll trade. PM me your address!
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02-08-2008, 12:36 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boiling Springs, PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
Definitely interested. LMK a cost... I'll check my bag of goodies for any trade items. Don't have much... maybe make you an oil air sep kit.
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You got any pics of one of those. I might want one too.
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5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-08-2008, 01:21 PM
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sure do....
 here's the standard kit.

installed - 1

installed - 2

installed - 3
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02-08-2008, 01:29 PM
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holy big pictures! lol
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99 GT, Custom Baby Blue paint, Saleen body kit, Cobra R wing, Vortech S-Trim supercharger, Pro-M mass air, FFRP 3.73's, Mac prochamber, Mac cat-back, Corbeau Carrea seats, Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico 5-way Ill., KB Sub-frames, Rear Seat delete, 19" TSW Thruxton
5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-08-2008, 01:32 PM
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gotz to make with the detail.
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02-08-2008, 01:39 PM
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Guess that won't work for me. My intake deleted the egr valve and everything else.
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99 GT, Custom Baby Blue paint, Saleen body kit, Cobra R wing, Vortech S-Trim supercharger, Pro-M mass air, FFRP 3.73's, Mac prochamber, Mac cat-back, Corbeau Carrea seats, Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico 5-way Ill., KB Sub-frames, Rear Seat delete, 19" TSW Thruxton
5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-08-2008, 02:18 PM
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Has anyone that has done this swap removed their a/c. I want to get rid of mine but not sure how to.
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99 GT, Custom Baby Blue paint, Saleen body kit, Cobra R wing, Vortech S-Trim supercharger, Pro-M mass air, FFRP 3.73's, Mac prochamber, Mac cat-back, Corbeau Carrea seats, Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico 5-way Ill., KB Sub-frames, Rear Seat delete, 19" TSW Thruxton
5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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just about to.
You can use a delete kit so you can keep your belt or get a shorter belt. As for pulling all the crap out... just pull it out. There should be a value in your tune your tuner should alter to clean up the little things but it's optional.
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02-09-2008, 07:28 AM
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Singlesura ever get his electrical gremlin sorted out and get to the dyno? I think your PM box is full SS
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2003 10th Anniversary Cobra Convertible
All Stock and staying that way... well maybe some pipes since it's so quiet..ahhhh! it's a sickness
1995 mustang GT vert - all black (almost back together)
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02-09-2008, 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesupra
You think that high with x pipe, mufflers and a K&n? Wouldnt that be about 320 at the flywheel? Arent these things rated at 260hp from the factory?
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260 flywheel
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CMC plates delete
altered stock intake, 90mmlmaf, twin 57mm tbody
,march pullies,160* t-stat,all tube suspension,coil-over-200inlb,
K&N,snipertuner
best:1/8th 8.58 @ 81.49 = 277 rwhp/340 rwtq before tune.
Last edited by assasinator; 02-09-2008 at 07:30 AM..
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02-09-2008, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saleenride
Guess that won't work for me. My intake deleted the egr valve and everything else.
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this is PCV side. Not egr side.
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02-09-2008, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
just about to.
You can use a delete kit so you can keep your belt or get a shorter belt. As for pulling all the crap out... just pull it out. There should be a value in your tune your tuner should alter to clean up the little things but it's optional.
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How do the get the fluid out? Is there some type of tool or something?
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99 GT, Custom Baby Blue paint, Saleen body kit, Cobra R wing, Vortech S-Trim supercharger, Pro-M mass air, FFRP 3.73's, Mac prochamber, Mac cat-back, Corbeau Carrea seats, Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico 5-way Ill., KB Sub-frames, Rear Seat delete, 19" TSW Thruxton
5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-09-2008, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
this is PCV side. Not egr side.
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I have no pvc on the intake either.
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99 GT, Custom Baby Blue paint, Saleen body kit, Cobra R wing, Vortech S-Trim supercharger, Pro-M mass air, FFRP 3.73's, Mac prochamber, Mac cat-back, Corbeau Carrea seats, Eibach Sportline springs, Tokico 5-way Ill., KB Sub-frames, Rear Seat delete, 19" TSW Thruxton
5.4L Navi is finally done! Just odds and ends left.
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02-09-2008, 10:55 AM
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bolt cutters would be a common redneck way of getting rid of the pressure side. IIRC there's a schrader type valve with a green cover you can release the pressure from too.
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02-09-2008, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saleenride
I have no pvc on the intake either.
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as for that... I have strong opinions about PCV deletes. If you just stabbed breather filters in each of the valve covers well... I'd be a sad panda. This isn't the forum to have a long technical discussion of it but with a blower in place and one of my dual-stage centri-centric PCV filter kits you'd have your PCV in place working right and even adding a little hp if you're lucky.
My $.02: Some blower kits delete the PCV system. I think that's because their engineers couldn't come up with a way to keep the PCV elbow from blowing off under boost and at the same time not to have to explain oily impeller blades to customers. My shizzle treats both issues and protects against PCV blowouts while retaining the basic function of the PCV and there's a plus for blower cars that NA cars just don't get... a little overall vacuum in the crankcase while under boost. Pulling vacuum in the bottom end is a known way to squeeze out a few more hp.
EDIT: Blower centric versions of my kit are a bit more substantial than the one pictured and include check valves and pre-filters for enhanced filtering performance.
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02-09-2008, 10:40 PM
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i'll be talking to ou r3d when i start the blower install on mine.....
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02-09-2008, 11:55 PM
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#3654 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
250rwhp/389rwtq
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You da friggin man with guesses.
Got the car on the dyno after thrashing all day friday(missed that appt) finding and fixing the issue(turned out to be a pinched wire going to the radio suppressor, whos idea it was to put that inline with the CCRM I have no clue) and installing the nitrous fri night, going to bed at 3am, getting back up at 6:30am, driving 3.5 hours to the dyno the damn clutch had VERY bad slip. As in, I can give it 1/3rd throttle in any gear and it slips, needless to say in goes another clutch and no nitrous pulls today
Car managed to somehow make 330rwtq@2400rpms and 220whp@2900rpms while . I am guessing it should make 260/360, and since its a mustang dyno that "should" be roughly 286/396 on a regular dynojet! Damn sure a damn impressive number to say the least since the only mods are a x pipe, flowmasters and a k&n filter. IMO thats the cheapest/safest tq that can be made on these cars. 286/396 is just insane to say the least! I figured 10% diff, some say as high as 15% diff some say 8%, i figure 10% correction factor from the mustangdyno to the dynojet should be fairly close. Could go +/-10ish hp I would guess. The numbers I am using are where it just happened to grab, guess it could have still been slipping there too.
On a 175 shot, I would guess it will be pretty damn close to 461/600 on a dynojet. What more can you ask for? Cant wait to get the clutch and head back down! I guess that extra comp helped more than I thought. BTW, this was with stock timing, but I woudl wager that with 11:1 comp, anymore than stock timing and it will detinate. Might detinate a little with a good clutch and have to back it down a degree who knows.
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02-10-2008, 01:11 PM
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Creature Of The Wheel
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Last edited by Morgan The Black; 02-10-2008 at 01:21 PM..
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02-10-2008, 01:16 PM
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#3656 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
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Id be worried about buying that. Could have drove it far enough that the crank cant be turned. Might need to be line honed to clean up the mains too if ran long enough depending on what let go. I have a crank that cant be turned and a block that needs decking, line honing and cleaned up now. Let me tell you to have all that done aint cheap!
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02-10-2008, 03:28 PM
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Creature Of The Wheel
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mebane, NC
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Thats why its at $5.50 right now, but it'd be worth it in spare parts, timing cover ect.
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02-10-2008, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan The Black
Thats why its at $5.50 right now, but it'd be worth it in spare parts, timing cover ect.
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Thats a good point
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02-10-2008, 06:58 PM
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02-10-2008, 08:55 PM
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Whats the word on the 5.4 intake?? What about the longtubes? Would a stock 5.4 2v be worth swapping in?? Im going with yes but you made 50 hp/tq over a 4.6 and that makes me wonder....
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3v, 46, 54, 54l, 7250ch, block, compression, crown, heads, intake, mustang, nonpi, opine, pi, ratio, swap, victoria  |
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