exhaust

ponyexpress96 · 08-16-2005, 02:03 PM

what do you guys think about putting magnapacks on my bassani x-pipe because i have to keep my cats due to imissions

*venom* · 08-16-2005, 03:17 PM

It will sound just fine,take a look at my slp setup click here

*Lances03SVT* · 08-16-2005, 04:03 PM

Will sound real good.Nice Venom.

ponyexpress96 · 08-16-2005, 04:39 PM

for some reason the comp im on wont let me open the files so ill try agian later but thats good news less i will have to buy what do u recomend i buy (muffler)

*Lances03SVT* · 08-16-2005, 04:49 PM

I say the whole catback.It allows your car to breath a little easier and a few extra horses.

*venom* · 08-16-2005, 09:32 PM

For the price you buy mufflers and have a shop weld it. You might as well buy a cat back an install it yourself. The SLP you can install without welding not sure about other catbacks. If you are having issues with video try save as instead of opening it.

*Lances03SVT* · 08-17-2005, 03:37 AM

The Magnaflow is a bolt on too as is Mac.No welding needed and fairly simple to install.

HappySavage · 08-17-2005, 04:15 PM

our cars dont get emmission testing. their too new. they just make sure you got no check engine light on. they check your emissions with your cars computer. so if you dont have a light on they dont care what comes out of your pipes.
the prob. is if you get the cats off you need to have your comp reprogramed so that the check engine light is off. thats costly.
this is the way in NJ anyway.

ponyexpress96 · 08-19-2005, 01:56 PM

so would it be better to go with the whol cat back or keep my x-pipe cause i am not really sure what the x dose and what the cat back dose i thought the x equlized the exhaust or sumthing and also what about turn downs i thought about getting them instead of getting them out the back

HappySavage · 08-21-2005, 10:00 AM

youll still need your x-pipe if you get the cat-backs. the x pipe replaces the cats. and then the catback exaust will hook to your x pipe. the x pipe is whats gonna make your check engine light come on(due to not havng the O2 sensors anymore). if you got one and your lights not one. then your good. you can throw anything after the x pipe.

ponyexpress96 · 08-21-2005, 10:32 AM

but the only thing is i have to keep my cats because i have to pass emissions

OFFdutyHERO · 08-23-2005, 02:42 PM

I have herd of people passing emissions without the cats. Dunno about it being absolutly true tho

HappySavage · 08-23-2005, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappySavage

our cars dont get emmission testing. their too new. they just make sure you got no check engine light on. they check your emissions with your cars computer. so if you dont have a light on they dont care what comes out of your pipes.
the prob. is if you get the cats off you need to have your comp reprogramed so that the check engine light is off. thats costly.
this is the way in NJ anyway.

like i said earlier. if you delete your cats you need your comp reprogramed. cats are on your mid pipe. a cat back exaust will replace everything after the midpipe. not the cats.
YOU ONLY FAIL EMISSIONS IF YOU GOT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. they wont even check it with out a CEL on. our cars are so new that the comp knows when you are illegal with your emmissions so thats all the inspection people care about.

oh and im getting an off road x pipe soon. my emmisions wont pass. ill have CEL on. but i dont have the $$$ to have my comp. reprogramed so im gonna get it inspected before i switch, then in 2 years ill throw my cats back in. get a new inspection then throw my X pipe back in.

OFFdutyHERO · 08-23-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappySavage

like i said earlier. if you delete your cats you need your comp reprogramed. cats are on your mid pipe. a cat back exaust will replace everything after the midpipe. not the cats.
YOU ONLY FAIL EMISSIONS IF YOU GOT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. they wont even check it with out a CEL on. our cars are so new that the comp knows when you are illegal with your emmissions so thats all the inspection people care about.

oh and im getting an off road x pipe soon. my emmisions wont pass. ill have CEL on. but i dont have the $$$ to have my comp. reprogramed so im gonna get it inspected before i switch, then in 2 years ill throw my cats back in. get a new inspection then throw my X pipe back in.

Why wouldnt you just get MIL's instead of all the swaping

ponyexpress96 · 08-24-2005, 02:12 PM

thanks for all the advince guys but i still need to find out what i am gona do about it all but the county i am in is pretty strict about the emissions and all that i mean i would like to keep my x pipe but i need my cats as well but i dont know ill ask my local performance shop and also if i get the p1 heads and intake will it make my car sound diffrent?

Lightning247 · 08-24-2005, 02:30 PM

In the state of North Carolina and in many other states that I know of vehicles do get OBDII scans in addition to emissions monitoring. Any OBDII Vehicle (96+) is required to get emissions inspection via monitoring through measuring the Hydrocarbons and NOx gasses emitted following the combustion process.

If the actual mandate in NJ is to simply plug up to the OBDII port then that's incredibly surprising the EPA doesn't jump down on that.

In the state of NC if you get pulled over and cannot produce the physical Paper print out of emissions of the various Gasses and hydrocarbons, and it match what's on file in the state capital you get fined. They couldn't give 2 ****s about a sticker.

Vehicles may "pass" inspections illegally without catalytic converters. But it is fact that a gasoline internal combustion engine without catalytic converters will never ever fail to produce higher then acceptable emissions. All you get is the sticker to fool the Po Po.

On a side note Automotive engineers in the late 80's and early 90's thought it would be 30 or 40 years before having Zero-emissions vehicles. We have manifested this technology today. Yippy.

Philip K.

*venom* · 08-24-2005, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponyexpress96

what do you guys think about putting magnapacks on my bassani x-pipe because i have to keep my cats due to imissions

Ok now lets get back to your question as your confusing everyone. According to your post you have a Bassani Xpipe which I assume has cats on it, if this is the case then any catback you put on right now will not effect emissions. You have to understand that the xpipe is what has the cats attached to them as well as the 02 sensors and a catback exhaust is from the cat but not including the cat,to the tailpipe. Look at the two photos.

stanger00 · 08-24-2005, 03:35 PM

if i didnt knwo anything about exhaust set ups i would be confused as hell after reading all this. its like the blind leading the blind.

HappySavage · 08-24-2005, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFFdutyHERO

Why wouldnt you just get MIL's instead of all the swaping

i was under the impression mils will pop a CEL on a stock comp.

08-16-2005, 02:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	exhaust what do you guys think about putting magnapacks on my bassani x-pipe because i have to keep my cats due to imissions __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

08-16-2005, 03:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,347	It will sound just fine,take a look at my slp setup click here __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

08-16-2005, 04:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,224	Will sound real good.Nice Venom. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

08-16-2005, 04:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	for some reason the comp im on wont let me open the files so ill try agian later but thats good news less i will have to buy what do u recomend i buy (muffler) __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

08-16-2005, 04:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,224	I say the whole catback.It allows your car to breath a little easier and a few extra horses. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

08-16-2005, 09:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
venom Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,347	For the price you buy mufflers and have a shop weld it. You might as well buy a cat back an install it yourself. The SLP you can install without welding not sure about other catbacks. If you are having issues with video try save as instead of opening it. __________________ http://www.mustangboards.com/mustang...500/ppuser/103

08-17-2005, 03:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,224	The Magnaflow is a bolt on too as is Mac.No welding needed and fairly simple to install. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

08-17-2005, 04:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
HappySavage 135mph is fun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 68	our cars dont get emmission testing. their too new. they just make sure you got no check engine light on. they check your emissions with your cars computer. so if you dont have a light on they dont care what comes out of your pipes. the prob. is if you get the cats off you need to have your comp reprogramed so that the check engine light is off. thats costly. this is the way in NJ anyway. __________________ 96 GT Auto BBK cold air BBK 75mm TB BBK underdrive pullys Trickflow Upper plenum Shift Kit Flowmaster American Thunder BBK Prochamber with hi flow cats (still sitting in living room cause i cant reach the damn bolts were it meets the headers, roommate calling me a redneck and crap........sucks) BOWTIES are for little boys and oldmen.

08-19-2005, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	so would it be better to go with the whol cat back or keep my x-pipe cause i am not really sure what the x dose and what the cat back dose i thought the x equlized the exhaust or sumthing and also what about turn downs i thought about getting them instead of getting them out the back __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

08-21-2005, 10:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
HappySavage 135mph is fun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 68	youll still need your x-pipe if you get the cat-backs. the x pipe replaces the cats. and then the catback exaust will hook to your x pipe. the x pipe is whats gonna make your check engine light come on(due to not havng the O2 sensors anymore). if you got one and your lights not one. then your good. you can throw anything after the x pipe. __________________ 96 GT Auto BBK cold air BBK 75mm TB BBK underdrive pullys Trickflow Upper plenum Shift Kit Flowmaster American Thunder BBK Prochamber with hi flow cats (still sitting in living room cause i cant reach the damn bolts were it meets the headers, roommate calling me a redneck and crap........sucks) BOWTIES are for little boys and oldmen.

08-21-2005, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	but the only thing is i have to keep my cats because i have to pass emissions __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

08-23-2005, 02:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
OFFdutyHERO what?? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 305	I have herd of people passing emissions without the cats. Dunno about it being absolutly true tho __________________

08-24-2005, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
ponyexpress96 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 113	thanks for all the advince guys but i still need to find out what i am gona do about it all but the county i am in is pretty strict about the emissions and all that i mean i would like to keep my x pipe but i need my cats as well but i dont know ill ask my local performance shop and also if i get the p1 heads and intake will it make my car sound diffrent? __________________ 96 GT Bassani X-Pipe Flowmasters Under drive pullies Hurst Short Shifter BBK Cold Air Intake(Fender)

08-24-2005, 02:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Lightning247 Huge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charlotte/ Winston Salem, NC Posts: 233	In the state of North Carolina and in many other states that I know of vehicles do get OBDII scans in addition to emissions monitoring. Any OBDII Vehicle (96+) is required to get emissions inspection via monitoring through measuring the Hydrocarbons and NOx gasses emitted following the combustion process. If the actual mandate in NJ is to simply plug up to the OBDII port then that's incredibly surprising the EPA doesn't jump down on that. In the state of NC if you get pulled over and cannot produce the physical Paper print out of emissions of the various Gasses and hydrocarbons, and it match what's on file in the state capital you get fined. They couldn't give 2 ****s about a sticker. Vehicles may "pass" inspections illegally without catalytic converters. But it is fact that a gasoline internal combustion engine without catalytic converters will never ever fail to produce higher then acceptable emissions. All you get is the sticker to fool the Po Po. On a side note Automotive engineers in the late 80's and early 90's thought it would be 30 or 40 years before having Zero-emissions vehicles. We have manifested this technology today. Yippy. Philip K. __________________ 1997 Rio Red Cobra: 2700 of 6961 Tri-Ax \| BBK O/R H-Pipe \| Dynomax Race Bullets \| WMS High Velocity Intake \| Steeda UD Pullies \| T56 6 Speed \| NGK-TR6 \| 03/04 Cobra Al Driveshaft \| 11 " DD SHD Perf. Clutch Kit \| Fidanza Flywheel \| Innovative LC-1 \| Venom VCN 1000 125 jet \| Walbro 255 \| 42 lb Injectors \| 90MM LMAF \| Detroit TruTrac \| Motive lightened 4.56 \| Moser 31 Spline \| BBS RGR Diamond Black \| P-Zero's 271rwhp / 265tq 11.7 A/F 376rwhp / 451tq 100 Shot no tuning

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