Know of any Cheaper Shortblocks?

apache46 · 09-10-2006, 10:44 PM

When I come back from overseas, I should have a decent chunk saved up. However, I don't wanna blow all my hard earned Dollars on the engine alone. I got plans for some kind of forced induction, forged internals, Tranny, rearend. But I need to spend wisely. I've read of some fairly cheap shortblocks(281 and 302s) but I can only seem to find DSS and Livernois shortblocks. Too much moola.Iwas thinking under 3G's. I figure shortblock is the way too go because after teardown and build-up cost with a rotating assembly, it will be about the same. Plus Machining.

Any Ideas?

apache46

WaterDR · 09-10-2006, 10:51 PM

Having a built motor affordably is all relative. DSS is about as cheap as you can get and have a quck turn-around on your motor. DSS has mixed reviews. They made great pushrods, but apparently had some problems in the early days with the modulars.

There are LOTs of engine builders out there, so choose wisely. There is a great company in Ca. that builds mustang motors that came highly recomended to me, but at 1 am I can;t think of the name.

r3dn3ck · 09-11-2006, 08:46 AM

CHP... coast high performance. They've had a few glitched motors lately according to my tuner who's actually done the installs. Livernois is another good one.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-11-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by apache46

When I come back from overseas, I should have a decent chunk saved up. However, I don't wanna blow all my hard earned Dollars on the engine alone. I got plans for some kind of forced induction, forged internals, Tranny, rearend. But I need to spend wisely. I've read of some fairly cheap shortblocks(281 and 302s) but I can only seem to find DSS and Livernois shortblocks. Too much moola.Iwas thinking under 3G's. I figure shortblock is the way too go because after teardown and build-up cost with a rotating assembly, it will be about the same. Plus Machining.

Any Ideas?

apache46

Jason @ Steen Racing, Norfolk, Va 757-480-7223 or www.steenracing.com

thats who is building my 4.?? SOHC

good guy wth tons of exp wth modulars

oh and try and stay-away from "cheap" as Cheap engines usally don't last and break

*03gtmustang* · 09-11-2006, 10:11 AM

I recommend Jason too. Dont go cheap or else youll end up spending more to get it fixed.

Lunati · 09-11-2006, 10:26 AM

i would go with someone reputable...like livernois or steenracing. as a matter of fact when i do get money for my heads i will be getting them from steen. they are good ppl and do great work.

WaterDR · 09-11-2006, 09:17 PM

As someone who recently shopped for a motor and got a new on this past May, I found that most of the engines prices were pretty consistant. Plan on spending $5500 or so for your typical built 4.6 600 hp ish motor with custom heads and cams.

BTW, I ended up with a slightly used Saleen motor with 7500 miles on it. I was able to get it for $750, so I could not pass it up.

apache46 · 09-14-2006, 06:26 PM

Steen is a new one for me. I'll check them out. Thanks for the advice guys. I don't wanna go "cheap" just cheaper. Maybe I'll just concentrate on the moto for now and spring for Paxton tuner kit later. I got a voice in my head saying "If you build the motor, and the forced induction will come."

thanks again, if anyone else thinks of more, please let me know.

*Randy Stinchcomb* · 09-15-2006, 05:15 AM

just an FYI, Steen Racing does not just build big HP engines. they are a Full Service shop wth a dyno and Ed Clark of SCT doing the tuning. Steen also does trans work, installs gears, exhaust, suspension work, just about everything. I trust them 110% wth my stuff and there close to me and to you.

oh and he's Ex-US Navy so he does have a soft-spot for our military personel

09-10-2006, 10:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	Know of any Cheaper Shortblocks? When I come back from overseas, I should have a decent chunk saved up. However, I don't wanna blow all my hard earned Dollars on the engine alone. I got plans for some kind of forced induction, forged internals, Tranny, rearend. But I need to spend wisely. I've read of some fairly cheap shortblocks(281 and 302s) but I can only seem to find DSS and Livernois shortblocks. Too much moola.Iwas thinking under 3G's. I figure shortblock is the way too go because after teardown and build-up cost with a rotating assembly, it will be about the same. Plus Machining. Any Ideas? apache46 __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

09-10-2006, 10:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	Having a built motor affordably is all relative. DSS is about as cheap as you can get and have a quck turn-around on your motor. DSS has mixed reviews. They made great pushrods, but apparently had some problems in the early days with the modulars. There are LOTs of engine builders out there, so choose wisely. There is a great company in Ca. that builds mustang motors that came highly recomended to me, but at 1 am I can;t think of the name. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

09-11-2006, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	I recommend Jason too. Dont go cheap or else youll end up spending more to get it fixed. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

09-11-2006, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lunati Whats that Whining Noise? Join Date: May 2005 Location: 305 Til I Die!! Posts: 403	i would go with someone reputable...like livernois or steenracing. as a matter of fact when i do get money for my heads i will be getting them from steen. they are good ppl and do great work. __________________ 04 DSG Blown GT/ 5 Speed 1.7L KB Blower, Headers, 4.10 Gears, etc... 397 RWHP & 407 RWTQ @ 9 PSI Tuned by Steen Racing

09-11-2006, 09:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,374	As someone who recently shopped for a motor and got a new on this past May, I found that most of the engines prices were pretty consistant. Plan on spending $5500 or so for your typical built 4.6 600 hp ish motor with custom heads and cams. BTW, I ended up with a slightly used Saleen motor with 7500 miles on it. I was able to get it for $750, so I could not pass it up. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

09-11-2006, 08:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,022	CHP... coast high performance. They've had a few glitched motors lately according to my tuner who's actually done the installs. Livernois is another good one.

09-14-2006, 06:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	thanks guys Steen is a new one for me. I'll check them out. Thanks for the advice guys. I don't wanna go "cheap" just cheaper. Maybe I'll just concentrate on the moto for now and spring for Paxton tuner kit later. I got a voice in my head saying "If you build the motor, and the forced induction will come." thanks again, if anyone else thinks of more, please let me know. __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

09-15-2006, 05:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Randy Stinchcomb Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Randallstown, Md Posts: 2,755	just an FYI, Steen Racing does not just build big HP engines. they are a Full Service shop wth a dyno and Ed Clark of SCT doing the tuning. Steen also does trans work, installs gears, exhaust, suspension work, just about everything. I trust them 110% wth my stuff and there close to me and to you. oh and he's Ex-US Navy so he does have a soft-spot for our military personel __________________ Randy Stinchcomb contact info: Liberty Ford of Baltimore 410-655-2000 parts ext 5618 like to fish visit us at www.sportfisherman.com need fishing tackle www.binnacletackle.com

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